Has anyone posted this pic here before? Cause it makes perfect sense to me

[dixiegrrrrl]

[LostOne4Ever]

1. Good Meme

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]But if it hasn't been posted before it is probably because Penn Jillette is a right wing libertarian.[/font]

[Lordquinton]

9. I wonder why we never have Penn shoved in our faces

as an example of a "bad" atheist because he's conservative. I mean they distort Harris all the time to make him sound like a monster, but here is a very famous, and well liked, atheist who is a far right leaning guy.

Still, haven't come across an atheist that is nearly as problematic as your garden variety theist.

[olddots]

2. Jebus loves me this I know

Cuzz the bible tells me so.........not only do they hear a voice in their head, they hear a book talking to them .

[SCantiGOP]

3. That is a tough thing about being a non- believer

You have to analyze, construct and determine your own code of morality; you don't get to take one off the shelf. The golden rule wasn't invented by any god or religious figure; it is intrinsic to the human character and built into us through evolution. I behave morally because I want and need to be a moral person.

[truebluegreen]

4. Always wondered about people who needed to be told

not to rape and murder.

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. Me too.

I mean, I get the Golden Rule and all that, and morality, as sane societal rules.
Wasn't raised in a religion, but I DO perfectly remember when I "got" some truths that most religious adhere to:

1. Lie,cheat, steal, kill is bad.

Sort of what George Carlin said so succinctly in his show, where he boiled the 10 commandments down to 4.

But I also got this in my head, in a burst of insight::

If God represents good and loves us, why is he terrorizing us into fearing him, with threats of death and hell.??

And if we are all God's children, why do we need another person to come between us and God in hearing Him?
And pay for the privilege? ( got that insight when I was 12)

So later on, when I understood fundamentalist thinking, I was left wondering why people not only needed to wrap themselves PUBLICLY
in the Bible ( does it not say something about praying privately?)
but also try to force others to live the way they do?

So, yeah...I liked the Penn poster, despite what other leanings he may have.

[beam me up scottie]

6. I haven't seen it before, thanks for posting!

Says it all, doesn't it?

[Skittles]

7. honestly

it tells me they can be made to believe ANYTHING

[snot]

8. This may be why atheists generally don't proseletyze for atheism ––

because on some level, we're afraid of how believers would behave if they lost their faith. I mean, just look at how many of them behave with it.

[yodermon]

10. I have been around religious people my whole life

and I've never heard them ask that question. Straw man.

[Promethean]

11. It comes up occasionally

from apologists in debates. They try to demonstrate that everybody would be this horrible evil monster if gawd wasn't holding them back and end up just demonstrating that the apologist is a monster.

[beam me up scottie]

12. It is not a fucking straw man.

Phil Robertson uses 'rape story' to denounce atheists
The star of the US TV reality show Duck Dynasty is facing criticism after a speech that included a graphic story about an atheist family being killed.

Phil Robertson appeared to be using the imagined story to claim that atheists would not find rape or murder immoral.
Atheist groups denounced the speech, saying it was unlikely Robertson actually knows any atheists.

In 2013, he was suspended from his TV show and quickly reinstated following derogatory remarks about homosexuality.
Robertson has since become a political figure. He recently spoke at CPAC, a large gathering of American conservatives that included presidential hopefuls such as Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

"Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot 'em and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off [sic] in front of him."

He continued: "And they can look at him and say, 'Isn't it great that I don't have to worry about being judged? Isn't it great that there's nothing wrong with this? There's no right or wrong, now is it dude?'"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32058470

Claims that religion is the source of morality have been used to vilify atheists for thousands of years.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's a straw man.

[Capt. Obvious]

13. Yeah but

the AIDS ring is totally legit.

[beam me up scottie]

14. Same vile homophobia, different Robertson.

[Capt. Obvious]

15. Ah didn't even notice

Just saw Robertson and assumed

[beam me up scottie]

16. After years of virulent hatred they all kind of blend together...

I look at them and just see red.

[Capt. Obvious]

17. If it quacks like a duck

[beam me up scottie]

18. Lol!

Yep.

Fuck the Ducks.

[NastyRiffraff]

19. Actually I get asked it

by a "good Catholic," a fundie, a Baptist, to name only a few. It's a common question when I say I'm an atheist. And I never bring up my lack of religion myself, only to respond to a question or comment (like "atheists can't have morality&quot

[WhollyHeretic]

20. I have been asked this, well it was murdering not raping

[RussBLib]

21. I've certainly heard a couple of preachers ask this type of question

"How can atheists do right without the Holy Book?!"

"Where is their moral guide? They don't have one."

I ran across this on the internet recently. Says it kinda nicely.

[dixiegrrrrl]

22. Nicely put. n/t