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Mon May 8, 2017, 03:23 PM

I recently encountered a bigot who referred to atheism as my "particular religious belief".

Is it worthwhile to engage someone like this or it ultimately futile? On one hand if others are paying attention it might be beneficial to try to discuss this subject but on the other I'm so damned tired of trying to reason with bigots.

How do you handle it when someone deliberately misrepresents atheism just to piss you off?








*Standard disclaimer: This is posted in the Atheists and Agnostics group, a safe haven where we can discuss religion and its effects on society and criticize fundamentalists who are not part of our coalition. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
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Ignore them
0 (0%)
Explain why it's intolerant to lie about people who don't share their beliefs
1 (9%)
Ask them to explain how a lack of religious belief is a belief
7 (64%)
Laugh at their pathetic attempt to get under your skin
2 (18%)
Tell them to go (use your imagination)
0 (0%)
I like pie
0 (0%)
Other (explain)
1 (9%)
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Reply I recently encountered a bigot who referred to atheism as my "particular religious belief". (Original post)
beam me up scottie May 2017 OP
trotsky May 2017 #1
beam me up scottie May 2017 #5
dchill May 2017 #2
beam me up scottie May 2017 #6
dchill May 2017 #7
beam me up scottie May 2017 #9
Warpy May 2017 #3
beam me up scottie May 2017 #8
LakeArenal May 2017 #4
beam me up scottie May 2017 #10
LakeArenal May 2017 #11
beam me up scottie May 2017 #12
LakeArenal May 2017 #13
beam me up scottie May 2017 #15
LakeArenal May 2017 #14
mountain grammy May 2017 #16

Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Mon May 8, 2017, 03:25 PM

1. Some combination thereof.

Sometimes it's satisfying to expose their ignorance and hypocrisy.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #1)

Mon May 8, 2017, 03:55 PM

5. I call that the carrot and stick approach.

Offer them knowledge and if they refuse it hit them with a truth stick. And if I'm in a bad mood I'm not above resorting to mockery.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Mon May 8, 2017, 03:28 PM

2. I'd say, "I'm so atheistic that I don't even believe in THAT."

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Response to dchill (Reply #2)

Mon May 8, 2017, 03:58 PM

6. It's so immature. Basically they're trying to insult us by saying we're just like them.

My little brother often used the Pee Wee Herman defense when he was little but he grew out of it.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #6)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:02 PM

7. I don't know what to believe. But that doesn't mean...

that I don't know what NOT to believe.

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Response to dchill (Reply #7)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:10 PM

9. Yep. I think that's the part that bothers them the most.

They see atheism as a rejection of what they believe and they take it personally. They don't seem to understand that it has NOTHING to do with them.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Mon May 8, 2017, 03:36 PM

3. Yeah, like "bald" is a hair color

then walk away, usually twiddling an index finger next to a temple.

It's the only way to deal with bigots. They're only parroting what they've heard. You can't really make them think with reasoned arguments and logic.

A one liner is about all any of them will ever absorb.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #3)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:07 PM

8. Or like health is a disease.

The Friendly Atheist Hemant Mehta made a video of some of these analogies:



If this happens in a setting where I have a chance to expose their ignorance as well as educate people about atheism I might be inclined to go with that option first. I just don't have as much patience these days - too many hours wasted dealing with bigots has taken its toll.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Mon May 8, 2017, 03:42 PM

4. I tell them to report me to god, "he" will take care of it.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #4)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:12 PM

10. If their god doesn't approve of atheists why do we exist?

I thought he didn't make mistakes?

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #10)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:21 PM

11. Satan

has hacked god's system...

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #11)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:24 PM

12. That's another thing I like to ask about.

How can a fallen angel be more cunning and powerful than the allegedly omnipotent being that created it? No part of that makes sense.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #12)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:29 PM

13. I also want to know...

If god is all forgiving... Then why is he still holding that grudge against Eve.. Supposedly she was very sorry for eating fruit.

I have posted this debate before but I just love it...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/video/ricky-gervais-and-stephen-go-head-to-head-on-religion/vi-AAmwO7V

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #13)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:49 PM

15. Not just Eve - this all forgiving deity punished her descendents by making childbirth painful.

And let's not forget how in a fit of rage he murdered every man, woman, child and every other living creature on the face of the earth. What kind of loving father does something like that?

They like to claim that was the old testament guy and he's changed but isn't that admitting God is fallible?

Gene Roddenberry summed it up perfectly:

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #12)

Mon May 8, 2017, 04:30 PM

14. And... what part of any of it does make sense?

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #4)

Tue May 9, 2017, 09:10 AM

16. I usually just chuckle and walk away..

but think I like this. I once told someone who said, "I'll pray for you," that they were actually "reporting me" if they believe their own nonsense. Once we become adults, life's too short to sit and listen to fairy tales.

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