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I'm exhausted and ready to give up... (Original Post) uriel1972 Nov 2019 OP
not sure what you are trying to say Skittles Nov 2019 #1
Frequently in GD and elsewhere... uriel1972 Nov 2019 #3
well yes, that's a given all over America, isn't it? Skittles Nov 2019 #4
Keep your chin up Docreed2003 Nov 2019 #2
They're real Christians all right.. mountain grammy Nov 2019 #5
I agree. Duppers Nov 2019 #6
Its just the "no true scotsman defense". Eko Nov 2019 #7
This. Ohio Dem Nov 2019 #9
It's normal here. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #8
I hear you edhopper Nov 2019 #10

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
3. Frequently in GD and elsewhere...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 08:04 PM
Nov 2019

Trump, his supporters and the Right-Leaning Religionists are referred to as "Fake Christians" or "Not True Christians" as if their behaviour and policies disqualify them from being Christian. It implies that Christians are by definition "Good People" and that only non-Christians can be evil, greedy, etc.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
4. well yes, that's a given all over America, isn't it?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 08:11 PM
Nov 2019

the idea that you need religion to be a good person is absolutely ridiculous

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
2. Keep your chin up
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 07:59 PM
Nov 2019

Choose your battles there, make your points, and understand that nothing said will change most "hearts and minds"

Duppers

(28,118 posts)
6. I agree.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 08:42 PM
Nov 2019

My mother made me attend the most uppy church, where snobs pretended to be Christians. Most all churches have those.

- atheist here

Eko

(7,281 posts)
7. Its just the "no true scotsman defense".
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:00 PM
Nov 2019

Use that, I did recently on a religious friend and they immediately understood why what they were saying was idiotic.

Voltaire2

(13,008 posts)
8. It's normal here.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:16 PM
Nov 2019

Either ignore it or patiently explain to the clueless theists that there is no objective standard for “real christians”.

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