This is without a doubt one of the stronger displays of christian privilage I've ever seen on DU.

[eqfan592]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=24910

[laconicsax]

1. That person was the first one blocked from this group.

[eqfan592]

2. LOL! Interestingly enough, I do NOT find this shocking at all.

[rexcat]

3. It just proves the point...

that religion numbs the mind. Also glad to see that the person was banned here but with his attitude that does not surprise me.

[eqfan592]

4. And it continues...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=24963

[BiggJawn]

25. I would bet you that if...

... they started putting "Jeebus sucks donkey dicks" on the money the Xians would care.

[Rob H.]

5. Wow. Condescending AND dismissive

He put the word rights in scare quotes, too. That's a true sign of open-mindedness!

[laconicsax]

7. Let's try to keep this as a discussion of privilege and not how much of a theocrat LARED appears.

[eqfan592]

8. lol, will do.

[eqfan592]

9. Ya know, here's a question.

Do you folks try to make christians aware of it when they make their sense of christian privilege obvious? And if so, how do you generally go about doing it?

[onager]

10. Just wander around in the Religion group a bit.

Yep, non-believers point it out all the time. The way they do so generally depends on the poster and their personal style.

However the pointing-out is done, we usually get the following responses:

1. Ignored.

2. Special pleading.

3. "Come help us smash the Fundamentalist stranglehold on American Xianity...by joining yet another circle-jerk in the Ivory Tower!"

4. You know, Xianity was solely responsible for ending slavery and starting the civil rights movement. So STFU, atheist scum.

5. There is absolutely no comparison between the constitutional rights of strident, Fundy-Atheist non-believers and the rights of...well, anybody else in American society. So STFU, atheist scum.

6. Stalin.

[Act_of_Reparation]

11. The Religion group in a nutshell, well put /nt

[eqfan592]

12. Of all of them, the Stalin one is the one that blows me away the most.

I've seen it a few times recently, I just just don't understand how they see it is a valid point in the least....

[laconicsax]

13. Other ways of knowing.

Don't try to pin them down on what those "other ways" are.

From past discussion threads I've seen the following as possibilities for what at least one of the "other ways" advocates considers to be "other ways of knowing:"

-Hearsay
-Imagination (making shit up)

Between 2nd/3rd/4th...nth-hand accounts and wholesale invention, that really covers everything, including why Stalin proves that 1st world liberal atheists are evil, why American Atheists is a hate group, and why atheist meet-ups are the same as Klan rallies.

All that from the same poster too.

[eqfan592]

14. Ya know, maybe its because I had a long day today...

...but the thought that there are people who think that way on this forum about us is really damn depressing to me tonight.

*sigh*

[laconicsax]

15. What's really depressing is that they're an active poster in the Religion group.

On edit, you're even dealing with him on a thread.

Have they used Hitchens as an example of "organzed atheism" being identical to the state atheism of the USSR yet?

[eqfan592]

16. HAHAHAHA!! They JUST rolled that one out.

The sad part is that I don't really think I'm expressing my point of view well. I'm just not on my game right now.

[Goblinmonger]

19. Here is what I keep in mind when in a discussion with that person

and others like them.

You aren't going to change this person's mind. So why engage? Because there are people reading the thread that generally just lurk and THEY will get it. You will expose that person for what they are and others will see it and it will affect that person's credibility down the line on other things.

[eqfan592]

21. You're absolutely correct. (nt)

[Rob H.]

22. Excellent points

Lately I'm noticing that the questions religious posters won't give a straightforward answer to say as much--or even more--about the posters as the ones they will answer, e.g., do you stand by your church's position on gay marriage? It's amazing the lengths to which some people will go, and the verbal contortions they'll employ, to avoid answering a simple yes-no question with a simple "yes" or "no."

[Goblinmonger]

23. Yep, and you will never change them

but those reading, even if they don't jump into the fray, realize it, too. I have had a number of PMs indicating just as much.

[sakabatou]

24. Or Mao, Pol Pot or Hitler or any supposed whackjob.

[mr blur]

17. And don't forget the "progressive" Christians -

they're not like other Christians.

And they spend their time telling the other Christians where they're going wrong!

Oh, wait...

[Rob H.]

20. Heh, too true

Another favorite is, "Well, I'm working from within to effect change in my church." How?!? By continuing to attend services and continuing to give them money? Yeah, that'll show 'em.

[trotsky]

18. Damn onager...

You've condensed every possible response perfectly. I continue to be in awe.