This is what we are up against OK I'm not religious. But I love to sing, as religion does

[edcantor]

These boys, 14-19 got together in a depressed English and Welsh speaking area of the UK..

They are obviously united by their adolescence and their ability to stand out as finalists in the TV show Britain's Got Talent.


This is not what you would normally see on a thread I have watched and mostly agree with over a few months.

No, I will not be a believer, or anything else that resembles Christian or Jewish or Muslim.

Here is how BBC TV represented them.. not at all religious

Alas, they are all doing this under a Christian image, which they hide from everyone until this release.

Look at the pretty good young talent we are up against!!!!!!!!!!


And none of these young wonderful men carry guns, they just love their heritage, their families' background, over the last 1500 years, fought off the Romans, and the other invaders, this is the generation that is left, wearing modern jeans, and guided by someone who knows they will buy into this, with wonderful musical adolescent experiences like this.

These people, they capture people away from rational atheism by allowing people to sing with their own voice...........I'm just suggesting we atheists would get further if we have a song to sing.

Can anyone suggest a way to get out of how young minds are captured like this? Can anyone suggest how these religious folks don't become Britain's Got Talent winners? I think we atheists are still at the bottome of the ditch, when this wonderful young men's talent is staged to work against us. Yes, they have a good chorus, but they are not learning that music and religion is not separate, they are conflating the beauty of music with Christianity. Sorry, but it's happening in Wales, like this, and probably all over the world.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

1. I listen to religious music.

Classical stuff, written in Latin, by people like Berlioz and Mozart or Hildegarde of Bingen or Palestrina.

Good music in any form is sacred and holy. The labels "secular" and "sacred" miss the point. That's why I loved being a music director at a Unitarian Fellowship. We could play anything we wanted that we felt was appropriate to them services.

I was in a very good choir at a Unitarian Universalist church. One time for Valentine's Day we sang the Brahms "Liebeslieder waltzes" in English, for example.

Playing good music is a life-affirming act. you don't have to be inspired by god. You can be inspired by picking up your instrument and practicing good stuff, whether it be classical, jazz or rock. i don't count country because it is very whiny and negative for the most part, neither do I partake of rap or hip hop. I don't believe in destroying vinyl records by scratching them.

That's my NSHMO.