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WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 12:27 PM May 2012

How I learned to stop worrying and love atheists...



I didn’t meet avowed nontheists until I arrived at college, and when I did, I tried hard to figure out what they were about. How could they not believe in some kind of… thing? Granted, at the time I was still building my own conception of the divine — a process that grows more beautiful and happy by the day. The friendly (honest!) conversation recounted above was the closest I ever came to admitting how I really felt: My brain couldn’t handle what I perceived as the irrationality of non-belief.

In time, of course, I mellowed. I realized that agnostics are capable of feeling just as much universe-rending glory as me without having to attribute it to some greater intelligence. Working and dialoguing with nontheists on issues of social concern, especially, helped me get my head on straight. But it wasn’t until I read Greta Christina’s Alternet piece “6 (Unlikely) Developments That Could Convince This Atheist To Believe In God” that I found a truly admirable and altogether frightening reality: religious people can’t be proven wrong.

http://nonprophetstatus.wordpress.com/tag/aurora-university/
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How I learned to stop worrying and love atheists... (Original Post) WillParkinson May 2012 OP
The cartoon is the best part of the article! edcantor May 2012 #1
religious people can be proven wrong all the time gsantostasi May 2012 #2
there is no god: AlbertCat May 2012 #3
Do we need bottom- and top-quarks? Or tauons and tau-neutrinos? DetlefK May 2012 #4
I need them. laconicsax May 2012 #5
 

edcantor

(325 posts)
1. The cartoon is the best part of the article!
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:51 PM
May 2012

The author still holds to his religious beliefs. He's just proud of his tolerance.

Bully for him !

gsantostasi

(1 post)
2. religious people can be proven wrong all the time
Fri May 18, 2012, 03:12 PM
May 2012

It is not true that religious primitive belief cannot be proven wrong. On the contrary, this is what make an atheist an atheist. The realization that logic, empirical evidence and common sense demands not to believe in god. Even the existence of god itself is a scientific topic our days and the scientific answer is: there is no god: http://www.amazon.com/God-Failed-Hypothesis-Science-Shows/dp/1591024811

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
3. there is no god:
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:15 PM
May 2012

Actually, science just makes it obvious there is NO NEED for a god. The supernatural is simply superfluous.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. Do we need bottom- and top-quarks? Or tauons and tau-neutrinos?
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:02 AM
May 2012

The universe would look practically the same without those.

For example, the creation of life does not need a god (can be shown by mathematical proof via chemistry, thermodynamics and statistics), but "need" is a very weak qualifier to determine whether something exists or not at all. Guess what: The universe doesn't need YOU.

Occam's razor is correct MOST of the time.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
5. I need them.
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:41 PM
May 2012

You have no idea how much I have emotionally invested in top quarks, bottom quarks, and tau-neutrinos. Tauons can go to hell.

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