Strange place for this group......

[frebrd]

Under Religion & Spirituality (not at all the logical place for it).

[truebrit71]

1. Does seem a little bizarre...

..as it is about a LACK of religion and spirituality...Oh well..

[MineralMan]

2. Oh, I dunno...

A negative response to a thing still relates to that thing. I can't figure where else the atheism group would go, to tell the truth.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. You sound almost ... agnostic ... about it

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. watch it, Muriel.

[Skinner]

3. If the denizens of this group would prefer a different category, just tell me where to put it. (nt)

[Angry Dragon]

6. It fits here

I think this is as good as any place for this group ................

[frebrd]

8. How about "Related Groups in other Categories"?

the same way the Skepticism Group is listed.

[lazarus]

11. Change the category back, and it would fix things

"Science and Skepticism" was changed to "Science and Technology", even though there aren't any tech-specific groups under that heading. If Skepticism were added back into the category listing, this group would fit there just fine.

It doesn't bother me to leave it here, but I imagine our religious friends may not like it much, either. And, really, we're not religious, so being in the Religion category is sorta weird.

[MrModerate]

19. Agreed

Although, perhaps the "Technology" label might begin to spawn actual Technology posts . . .

[mr blur]

20. I agree. It is weird

and a little uncomfortable.

[drm604]

28. In the old DU it was under Science & Skepticism.

What's wrong with leaving it there?

On Edit: Oh, I see that's gone. Why was it removed? Maybe it should have been left. I think this and "Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience" both belong under "Science & Skepticism", or maybe a new category called something like "Skepticism" or maybe "Critical thinking" or some such.

[Arugula Latte]

4. Skinner is God.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

24. there is no god. Ergo, there is no Skinner.

I think, therefore . . . .

[Arugula Latte]

34. Weird ... I posted that comment in May

[WolverineDG]

5. Like Skinner said

let him know where you want it to be. This was originally somewhere else (like Science or something) but someone complained about that too.

[Warpy]

9. I feel a little betrayed

since this should have been kept as part of Science & Skepticism since the Skeptics' group is still there.

In fact, this whole thing makes me feel like they moved my food dish.

[frebrd]

10. +1!

[Deep13]

12. So what do I have to do to help keep this forum?

And skeptics too?

[lazarus]

13. just subscribe and post

I think we're safe, but just in case, we need as many people as possible to subscribe.

[rexcat]

14. And we are just below astrology!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

25. alphabetically, at least.

[WhollyHeretic]

15. I think the old group was under a similar category once upon a time.

[laconicsax]

16. Where else do you put our granfalloon?

[uriel1972]

17. Heh we move one step closer to our enemies

Unknowing the gambol in the fields while we sharpen our knives. On a serious note I'm a little confused by putting us with religion but, I have no great objections except that others (newbies) might not know where to find us now.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

18. I'm not sure there's a better place

It seems weird, but atheism/agnosticism is at least tangentially related to religion.

[NMMNG]

21. Naw

Atheism is a religion. We've been told so by religious people.

[PhoenixAbove]

22. I don't know about agnostics...

but atheism is not a religion. It's not. When I think of all the time I've spent trying to explain this simple concept to people (some family members included) this just sticks in my craw.

1) Absent belief in god
2) Absent belief in religion
3) Absent belief in after-life
4) Absent belief in souls

So explain to me again how I'm religious again? And again. And again.
Do you teach creationism in a science class? No.
Would the catholic church teach atheism? Not bloody likely.

I like the science and skepticism idea.

[frogmarch]

26. It doesn't feel right to have it under R&S

but it might be easier for newcomers to find.

[drm604]

29. That's actually a pretty good argument.

I lean towards being against this categorization, but the idea of putting it where people would look for it has some merit.

The whole point of categorizing is to make things easier to find, so maybe it does make sense to put it here.

On the other hand, it does play into the misconception that atheism is a religion; sort of like putting a "Bald" group under a "Hair Colors" category.

[greyl]

27. It could fit in Activism, I think. (almost in Arts & Humanities)

But I'd guess if people were presented with a list of the Main Topics here and had to infer which one held Atheists & Agnostics, most would choose door number "Religion & Spirituality."

I'm not inclined to move it, personally.

[Nevernose]

30. It's probably the right place for it.

If there were a forum for those who believed in Santa and one specifically for those who do not believe in Santa (the a-Santas and ag-Santas group), it would probably make sense to put them both in a similar folder.

And all the groups -- including the ones that believe in various Santas -- need to be easily located for all DU members.

And for the record, I have way more reason to believe in Santa than I do in Jesus. He's got way more than one book about him, I first learned about him at a similar age, I know exactly what it's like to feel Santa's love (or displeasure) in my heart, and most importantly Santa has actually given me things. Jesus never brought me a Death Star playset.

[drm604]

31. Why are some of the messages in this thread dated May 2011??

[EvolveOrConvolve]

32. The come from one of the open beta tests

When they launched DU3 yesterday, they kept the old posts available, so you see some of the old stuff that was created during the testing period.

[dimbear]

33. Well, to turn your computer off you click start. In the long run, it's not a dealbreaker.

It makes sense to put up temperance signs near a bar, too.

[Kalidurga]

35. I was just thinking it was kinda weird...

glad I am not the only one. Perhaps you could have a Science and Reason section or a Philosophy Section or something like that.