The Ojibwa 7th Fire Prophecy fulfilled?

[Anonymousecoview]

The Ojibwa Seventh-fire Prophecy states: "Look for an island shaped like a turtle that will be an instrument in the purification of the earth."
30 years ago such a prophecy might not have meant so much to us, but with the global warming crisis of today... doesn't it make you want to look? Now google maps Easter Island...
Why Easter Island? This answer to this question was confirmed to me when an Ojibwa woman shared with me the conviction of her Ojibwa Grandfather, that Easter Island is the turtle shaped island they were to look for and its stone monuments and undeciphered writing tablets can re-teach and motivate us to live in harmony with the earth again. For a link to a novel based on the first time decipherment of the Easter Island tablets, come and see:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/127636924/Finding-Turtle-Island

[Ron Obvious]

1. Perhaps you intended to post this somewhere else?

We're not real big on prophecy in this group,

[Anonymousecoview]

5. Yikes... :)

No kidding eh?

[skepticscott]

2. Seriously, where does this shit come from?

Do you just seek out woo for fun? The stone monuments are carved statues...people have known about them for centuries. They have no mystical aura about them, now or ever, that will "re-teach and motivate us to live in harmony with the earth again". They aren't even on most people's radar, and the tablets even less so.

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. They write it

See their profile.

[Anonymousecoview]

6. It's out there

The divide between Indigenous World-view and Scientific thought is as far as the heart is from the mind. Everyone works with both to some extent.

[skepticscott]

9. Lots of things are "out there"

But this is really Out There.

"Indigenous World-view" is just nice sounding code for a whole soup kettle full of New Age flummery.

[Anonymousecoview]

10. True - new age has often taken the place of age old...

The Blackfoot Elders who mentored me have been concerned with sincere yet over ambitious 'new age' buffs taking their traditions and making money off them. A bad example of this was when certain people died in the states a few years back because of a Sweat Lodge too long and too hot...

[EvolveOrConvolve]

3. Um, no

This is horse shit. Woo-ery of the highest order. Word salad. Horse shit.

[Anonymousecoview]

7. Crazy Horse Sh@#

Crazy Horse said, "In the seventh generation my people will return." You will be hearing more about it from the "Idle no more movement", the Shift Movement and so forth. I read "Pseudoscience" and thought you may be interested.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

8. I'm glad you admit it's pseudoscience

Because pseudoscience = horse shit.

This is the skeptic's group and you're not likely to find anyone here gullible enough to believe your nonsense.

[Anonymousecoview]

11. Yes and...

Pseudo means new... so yes and no.... and true, if any of this research is not useful to a reader it would be best to regard it as nonsense and keep to what they value...

[Ron Obvious]

12. pseudo does not mean new

From Wikipedia:

The prefix pseudo- (from Greek ????ή? "lying, false&quot is used to mark something as false, fraudulent, or pretending to be something it is not.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

13. I don't think pseudo means what you think it means

You're probably confusing it with nouveau: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nouveau

And thanks, yes, I regard prophecies as nonsense.

[Anonymousecoview]

14. My bad

I'm getting slaughtered here - if this is a debate
Lets go for round two

[trotsky]

17. It's not a debate.

You are not in the appropriate group to push your nonsense. Please go elsewhere.

[Anonymousecoview]

15. If you prefer not to, others elsewhere may

But Finding Turtle Island is an appeal to the skeptic, who is tired of the way our systems have defined our worldview. We share here in a challenge to people to broaden their view. Nothing new would be without a little skepticism...

[yellerpup]

16. You may want to share this in the

Native American forum where definitions of Turtle Island are not needed.

[Anonymousecoview]

19. Thanks - I will :)

Or I have

[trotsky]

18. An appeal to the skeptic would include things like, well...

evidence. And reasoning. You have neither. Run along now.

[Anonymousecoview]

20. I'll run along like Elijah on the Mounts

The evidence is mounting in global warming disasters

[Odin2005]

21. OP has been bammed from the group.

[DavidDvorkin]

22. Is that like being banned, but with a boot?

[progressoid]

23. OP has been spamming DU with this crap.

I've seen a dozens of posts about his "book".

[trotsky]

24. OP is baaaack...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/122818838

Oy.

[progressoid]

25. Ha. Locked.

"This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Chemisse (a host of the Science group).