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LostOne4Ever

(9,329 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:45 AM Jul 2015

The Evidence Supports Artificial Sweeteners Over Sugar

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JULY 27, 2015

Aaron E. Carroll

In the last few years, I’ve watched a continuing battle among my friends about which is worse for you: artificial sweeteners or sugar. Unless you want to forgo all beverages that are sweet, you’re going to run into one of these. Rather than rely on anecdote or myth, we can inform this debate with research.

The available evidence points to the fact that there appears to be a correlation between sugar consumption and health problems; none can be detected with artificial sweeteners.

Let’s start with artificial sweeteners. These have, for decades, been attacked as harmful chemicals. But everything is a “chemical,” and not all of them are bad for us. One of the oldest artificial sweeteners is saccharin. Starting in the 1980s, Congress mandated that any product containing it be accompanied by the following: “Use of this product may be hazardous to your health. This product contains saccharin, which has been determined to cause cancer in laboratory animals.”

But what was the basis for this decision? A review article published in The Annals of Oncology in 2004 noted that more than 50 studies had been published looking at saccharin in rats. Twenty of these were “one generation” studies, meaning that they did not look at the rats’ offspring. In only one of those studies did huge amounts of saccharin produce cancer, and it was in a type of rat that is frequently infected with a bladder parasite that would leave it susceptible to saccharin-induced bladder cancer...

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]More at link.

Just another nail in the coffin of the people who insist that artificial is always bad, natural is always good. Now, please excuse me as I go drink another can coke zero and enjoying all the weight I lost since I switch to it from real cokes.[/font]

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The Evidence Supports Artificial Sweeteners Over Sugar (Original Post) LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 OP
My issue with artificial sweetener Rainforestgoddess Jul 2015 #1
Soda Stream is great Warpy Jul 2015 #2
I love my soda stream for that reason as well. progressoid Aug 2015 #5
That's good, too Warpy Aug 2015 #6
You will get no disagreement from me on that LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 #3
Yup Rainforestgoddess Jul 2015 #4
I find that hard to believe. SheilaT Aug 2015 #7
Actually its the Phosphoric acid (not the sweeteners) that leeches Ca LostOne4Ever Aug 2015 #8
A far better choice would be plain water. SheilaT Aug 2015 #9
My problem is the taste. drm604 Aug 2015 #10
This Lordquinton Aug 2015 #13
But they taste like shit. Codeine Aug 2015 #11
Not just taste but also mouth-feel NickB79 Aug 2015 #14
I seldom drink soda at all. Archae Aug 2015 #12

Rainforestgoddess

(436 posts)
1. My issue with artificial sweetener
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jul 2015

Is the heavy handedness of it. Not everything needs to taste like syrup.

There used to be a lower calorie drink called fresca which had sugar, just less of it. It was fairly tart and I loved it. Then they came out with nutrasweet and turned it to a zero calorie drink. And made it syrupy sweet at the same time. Blegh. 😝

Warpy

(111,815 posts)
2. Soda Stream is great
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

Their sugar free mixes are good and I can add what I want to control sweetness. I do find, as you do, that most commercial soft drinks are icky sweet, with the exception of Wal Mart's house brand that is spectacularly gassy but nearly flavorless.

With the Soda Stream setup, I can also make the occasional liter of plain seltzer water, something I especially enjoy in the summer.

They made a mistake and sent me sugared mixes one time. It was like trying to drink maple syrup. Ugh.

progressoid

(50,136 posts)
5. I love my soda stream for that reason as well.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 05:03 PM
Aug 2015

Since using it, I've noticed I no longer like the overly sweet drinks on the market.

Sometimes I also just make the soda water but add a little bit of lemon or lime.

Warpy

(111,815 posts)
6. That's good, too
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 06:57 PM
Aug 2015

What I like best is not having to lug heavy cans or bottles back from Costco.

I'm getting too old for that crap.

LostOne4Ever

(9,329 posts)
3. You will get no disagreement from me on that
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jul 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]But I am a complete soda addict. I would be morbidly obese still if not for artificial sweeteners.

That said, they need to offer more products made to taste not so sweet all your teeth crack instantly upon tasting it regardless of it being made with sugar or saccharin or aspartame or stevia.[/font]

Rainforestgoddess

(436 posts)
4. Yup
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jul 2015

I can't be the only person who doesn't enjoy overly sweetened stuff. Might look into that soda stream thing, or just stick to my usual iced tea (not sweet)

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. I find that hard to believe.
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:48 PM
Aug 2015

I also understand that the artificial sweetners in sodas tend to leach calcium from the bones, making it a rather poor choice.

I gave up sodas around fifteen years ago, and I simply don't miss them. I also amazed in the supermarket that almost every shopping cart has at least one of those big boxes of soft drinks, often three or four.

LostOne4Ever

(9,329 posts)
8. Actually its the Phosphoric acid (not the sweeteners) that leeches Ca
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:51 AM
Aug 2015

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/how-does-coca-cola-affect-your-body-hour-after-drinking-stuff

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Further:[/font]

http://muscle-insider.com/content/sweeteners-do-they-cause-fat-or-calcium-leaching

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]That said, I am a soda addict. It is beyond me to give them up at this point. I am stuck with a choice of evils and only evils.

One evil is SIGNIFICANTLY healthier for me. The one with artificial sweeteners. Which is the point. Despite, what those who live their lives based upon an appeal to nature fallacy will tell you, Artificial sweeteners are not, unto themselves, bad for you.

In fact, they are quite a superior choice for those wanting to lose weight but can not live without a sweet fix. And having something like that is a great thing![/font]
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. A far better choice would be plain water.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:56 AM
Aug 2015

There's a lot of evidence that artificial sweetners don't actually satisfy that sweet craving, and the image of an overweight person with a diet soft drink and a donut is there for a reason.

And thanks for correcting me on the particular villain here.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
10. My problem is the taste.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 09:35 PM
Aug 2015

They just don't taste the same. I can use saccharin in coffee. It's not exactly like sugar, but it's palatable. But I've yet to find an artificial sweetener that works for me in tea. Saccharin, Nutrasweet, Stevia, they're all disgusting in tea, at least for me.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
13. This
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:20 PM
Aug 2015

Although with the HFCs even sugar in soda tastes funny these days. Like lostone4ever I'm a soda addict, but i haven't had weight problems from it. I do get migraines from some of the artificial sweeteners, so i avoid them.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. But they taste like shit.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:23 PM
Aug 2015

I admire anyone who has the ability to overcome that nasty flavor and avoid the sugar, but I can't manage it. They taste so bad!

Archae

(46,444 posts)
12. I seldom drink soda at all.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:31 AM
Aug 2015

Most of the time, just water.
Tap water.

Even though my water is so hard it rattles, I like it.

I do indulge once in a while, Sprecher root beer, eggnog from October until January, and chocolate milk once in a while.

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