I just have to repost this post from a UFO discussion in GD

[edhopper]

The illogic is beautiful.

I posted about the complete lack of photo evidence of aliens, even though half the planet now carry a phone with them everywhere.

I got this reply from another member:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12137210

The US Govt has ways of filtering camera shots so that the thing you see, isnt the picture that gets taken. Not a stretch to think that same technology isn't avail to 'them', or that that is where it originated. There ARE many pictures and more everyday. If it was nothing, why did the Navy wait 15 years to show us the 'little blip of light'? To believe we aren't being visited is to ignore huge volumes of reports that say otherwise, and pictures carved in ancient stone. And, paintings from 100s of years ago showing stuff in the sky too.

[wasupaloopa]

1. "To believe we aren't being visited is to ignore huge volumes of reports" with as little provable

evidence as your statement.

You are making an unsubstantiated claim about why there are no pictures to prove another unsubstantiated claim.

Maybe you can figure out why there is no physical evidence of these beings.

[edhopper]

4. I edited to make clear

this was a reply to my post about cell phones and no evidence.

I am not the author of this foolishness.

[BlueJac]

2. I watch Ancient Aliens...

the series starts again this month on the 30th or 31st... I am a believer. Check out "Unacknowledged" a good movie for aliens.

[MicaelS]

3. And I will repost this.

People can be TOO skeptical. When the US Navy admits they are encountering UFOs, or UAPs, whatever term you want to use, then something is there.

Not saying they are aliens, but someone, or something, is flying these things. They could be very advanced drones, or autonomous vehicles being flow by our own government or foreign governments.

As for your camera evidence comment, there is the footage from US Navy pilots. Or are you going to dismiss that?

When trained observers, aka airline and military pilots, keep seeing UAPs, then THAT tells me something is there. No matter how skeptics try to explain it away.

[edhopper]

5. Blips are just blips, but

Unknown terrestrial aircraft isn't beyond possibility.

BTW, turns out pilots aren't great witnesses when it comes to UFOs.

[MicaelS]

6. Apparently you did not you read my post.

Let me repeat it:

Not saying they are aliens, but someone, or something, is flying these things. They could be very advanced drones, or autonomous vehicles being flow by our own government or foreign governments.

[edhopper]

7. Sorry

I did read that and was confirming what you said.

I meant to omit that first part.

[MicaelS]

8. OK, NP. n/t

[dewsgirl]

9. I didn't really believe in UFO's or Aliens until January of 2012. My husband and our two sons 9 and

14 and I were going to a friends one street over, our youngest was in the cab of our truck and our 14 yr old and I were in the back. At the end of our street, there is a lake, above the lake we saw three glowing orbs and as fast as we noticed them, they were gone. My husband and youngest didn't see a thing.
I posted about the incident on a random UFO sighting board and to my surprise we weren't the only ones who saw them, a man walking his dog on the other side of the lake also saw them and posted on the same board hoping he wasn't the only one to see them. After that, no one will ever convince me UFO's aren't real.

[edhopper]

10. Was there anything to indicate

it was a craft from another star system?

Yes, people see things they can't explain. Often an explanation is found, sometimes not.

That is the U in UFO.

[dewsgirl]

12. It was so fast we saw them kinda hovering in mid air, and they took off so fast it was less than a

blink of an eye, the second we noticed. They were much lower than an aircraft for the area. It still feels surreal when I think of it.

[edhopper]

13. You saw something you cannot identify

So what is it you now believe?

Nobody has said people don't actual see things they can't identify or misidentify.

[DavidDvorkin]

11. UFOs are certainly real

That's why we have a name for them. They are unidentified. That's all we can say about them.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

14. The US Govt has ways of filtering camera shots?

Really? They somehow control every single camera or phone with a camera in this country?

That person should reread that sentence and do some more critical thinking.

[BigmanPigman]

15. That sounds a lot like the BS a flat earther tried to get me to believe.

"The govt and NASA, and all the airlines and camera manufacturers since they were an actual business a hundred plus years ago are all in on it", they always have an answer for everything but their answers are ridiculous. I do believe in ghosts (personal experience) and UFOs (more experience) but a flat earth...no way!

[uriel1972]

16. Camera Manufacturers?

Exactly how, I wonder?

[BigmanPigman]

17. I know...I tried every rational argument

but they always have some answer that makes zero sense. I was told that the airplane windows, camera lenses, etc are all in on the scheme to make us think the earth is flat. I taught first grade and have a great deal of patience but this was my limit.

[Archae]

18. The thread is over 200 posts now...

Most of them from the "trVe believers" attacking the skeptics, like me.

"There is evidence, because we say so!"

[edhopper]

19. I have been watching that.

The leap from "I saw something unexplained" to "Aliens!" is fascinating and absurd.

[Archae]

20. The problem is too many people are making too much money from this.

Yup, there it is, in a nutshell.
Money.

In Roswell there is several "museums," who have dioramas and newspapers on the walls, and of course sell stuff to tourists.

Eric Von Daniken is a convicted Danish embezzler and perjurer, and his books have been shown to be total shit.
Yet the Hysteria Channel (I haven't watched that channel in years now,) has their wack job "Ancient Aliens" show that just regurgitate old debunked stories from the "ancient astronaut" fairy tale spreaders.

I saw one episode that brought up the "Ica Stones," decades after Nova on PBS showed how they are fake.

The flying saucer zealots are using this US Navy announcemnet as some sort of "Holy Writ," and of course...
"Buy my book! Buy my movie! Watch my TV show! Listen to my radio show!"