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Why is the NY Times spreading this bullshit? (Original Post) Archae Jul 2020 OP
Because, 90% of the time, Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #1
Bingo Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #2
I would suggest that 90% of the time ... Laelth Jul 2020 #3
True, but they aren't the paper they used to be either still_one Jul 2020 #4
I guess it would depend on the time period Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #5
That was depressing, admittedly. n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #7
Maggie Haberman is still there Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #8
Rogue X-Files fan on staff? nt CatLady78 Jul 2020 #6
What, exactly, is the criticism of the actual piece by the NYT? better Jul 2020 #9
+1. Ditto. yonder Aug 2020 #11
They're heeeere... progressoid Jul 2020 #10

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. I would suggest that 90% of the time ...
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jul 2020

... the NY Times is VERY GOOD at its job.

The other 10%? Well, here you go.



-Laelth

Miguelito Loveless

(4,465 posts)
5. I guess it would depend on the time period
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jul 2020

and who is in office. When HRC was running it was almost non-stop hit pieces, while the fact that Trump was under active investigation by the FBI for ties to Russia didn't warrant coverage until AFTER he was elected. Also, if memory serves, the NYT was an uncritical cheerleader for the Iraq war.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,465 posts)
8. Maggie Haberman is still there
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

Thomas "suck on this" Friedman
Maureen Dowd who wrote, "Al Gore is so feminized and diversified and ecologically correct that he's practically lactating".

These are people who got rid of their ombudsman when he proved inconvenient for calling them on the BS.

better

(884 posts)
9. What, exactly, is the criticism of the actual piece by the NYT?
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jul 2020

I've read it, and nowhere do I see any such flights of journalistic fancy. I see reporting on a government program, the spending for which appeared in a Senate report. Overall, I see sane, responsible reporting.

And coincidentally, the criticism of the NYT on the basis of that the fact that Trump was under FBI investigation for his ties to Russia didn't warrant coverage until after Trump was elected is glaringly misplaced.

The legitimate outrage is that this fact was not known until after the election, but that's a valid criticism of the FBI for having kept secret the Trump investigation while disclosing the reopening of the Clinton probe, not of the NYT for not reporting something that was not yet known.

By all means, let's hold media outlets responsible, but let's do so responsibly.

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