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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:01 PM

My sister committed suicide today. I'm the one who.found her and

called 911. She has been depressed since her husband died 3 years ago today. I now have only my son and granddaughter as my family.

I've never had to deal directly with a death before. Right now I'm angry that she couldn't move forward with living.

I had thought we'd travel together and enjoy our senior years. She was 70 and I'm 68.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:04 PM

1. So very sorry for your loss.

Please be gentle with yourself.

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Response to Dakotacrat (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:07 PM

126. So sorry for both you and for her. The grief and sorrow of losing a spouse can be overwhelming.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:04 PM

2. No Words

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:05 PM

3. That is sad

So sorry to hear that....not much else anyone can say at a time like this but to tell you others among us care.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:05 PM

4. I am so sorry for you

I cannot imagine your grief.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:05 PM

5. I am so very sorry for your loss.

I lost my fiancee to suicide several decades ago so I understand the shock.

I wish the two of you could have enjoyed your senior years together.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:06 PM

6. I'm so sorry

 

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:06 PM

7. so sorry

I am so very sorry for your loss. I'm at a loss for words. We expect to age with our siblings to our natural deaths, and when life doesn't go as planned, it can be devastating. Sending you healing prayers.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:06 PM

8. Oh my God I'm so sorry

Do you have anyone to talk to? Please reach out for help immediately, there are resources. Where are you, I'm sure someone will be able to help you set up.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:07 PM

9. I am so sorry for your loss . Sibling stuff can be very hard...

 

Hang in there.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:07 PM

10. I am so sorry for your loss sinkingfeeling. May the good memories

you have of your sister help ease the shock and sadness of the loss. My sympathy to the family and all who knew and loved your sister.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:08 PM

11. I am so sorry

this is so sad. You have suffered a big loss. You have my sympathy.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:08 PM

12. I am so sorry for your loss.

I am really sorry, and give you my sympathy.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:09 PM

13. I can't even imagine the pain you're feeling...

So incredibly sorry for your loss...hope you are able to find some solace and peace after such a traumatic experience. Lean on the folks here...we may fight back and forth, but people genuinely care for each other. My thoughts and prayers are with you!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:11 PM

14. Oh you must have so much going through your head and heart right now.

I know someone who found thier brother who shot himself, he had so many different feelings from finding him , losing him and angry that his brother did it because of a romantic breakup ( again an issue of not being able to move on)
please take care and I wish you peace

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:12 PM

15. Oh no. I'm so sorry.

My heart goes out to you, dear sf.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:12 PM

16. Really sorry for your loss. What you went through is so traumatic. I hope you have someone to

talk this through with

The arrangements and everything else are going to be tough, and I hope you don't have to do this alone

Take care

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:12 PM

17. There are no words adequate to convey my sadness reading your post...

I am beyond inadequate in conveying how much concern I feel for you and all who loved your sister.

May many many many rally behind you, support you and may you find peace in that shower of caring.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:13 PM

18. I've lost several friends to suicide

It's so hard to deal with. I encourage you to call Hospice. They have free counseling and it's very helpful. Suicide is a special type of loss and they will understand. Also, be very gentle with yourself and don't place expectations on how you should be feeling. Just try to flow with it and give yourself lots of time to heal and accept. Best to you.

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Response to OceanChick (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:53 PM

66. Our local Hospice was a great help to my daughter and her 5 year old son when the baby died of SIDS

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Response to OceanChick (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:00 PM

181. I am so terribly sorry, sf. I want to add my support for Ocean's suggestion.

I didn't know Hospice was a resource.
Please use every resource available to lean on.


My heart breaks for you....and there's lots of kindness here at DU anytime you need....but get in contact with support systems in real life. Please. When trauma hits, this is what we need most.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:14 PM

19. So very sorry!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:16 PM

20. How very sad.

All my sympathy. Peace to you and your son and granddaughter.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:17 PM

21. Condolences to you -- and I'm so sorry that you were the one who found her.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:17 PM

22. I am so, so sorry.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:19 PM

23. I am sorry for your loss. nt

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:20 PM

24. Oh, my dear, that

is so devastating. My heart is with you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:21 PM

25. I'm very sorry for your loss.

I can't even imagine how bad this is for your family. We are here, and we are thinking about you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:21 PM

26. My heart goes out to you...

My sister Committed suicide in 1978 at the age of 34… her two small children found her…

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:22 PM

27. I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I cant imagine the horror

you felt. May your Sister rest in peace.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:23 PM

28. Thinking of you

May you find peace.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:24 PM

29. I am so very sorry for your loss.

Dealing with suicide is a difficult journey, so much confusion and conflicting emotions. Please do yourself a favor and look into getting some support to help you navigate this hard path.

Love, peace and hugs to you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:24 PM

30. There are no words...

how sad and tragic for both you and your sister. The shock of finding her is unimaginable.

I'm no expert on these things, but if you're feeling angry, then that's OK. We might be able to censor our words or modulate our public actions, but we can't control our feelings.

Be kind to yourself.



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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:25 PM

31. My brother did it in 2010. It just crushed my Mom, who died in 2015.

 

There has not been a single day since that I haven't though about him. So very sorry!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:25 PM

32. So sorry!! All of us are here for you. n/t

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:27 PM

33. I am very sorry.

I cannot imagine the pain you must be feeling. It's going to be hard moving forward from this, but you have a good support system here at DU. Thoughts for you, your son and your granddaughter at this difficult time.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:28 PM

34. I am so sorry this has happened.

I hope you can somehow find peace although I know you're in a lot of pain right now.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:28 PM

35. I'm so very sorry

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:29 PM

36. I am so sorry

I don't have the right words, but know you have my deepest sympathy.



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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:29 PM

37. I'm so sorry for your loss.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:29 PM

38. I don't even know what to say except I'm so sorry. Hang in there.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:30 PM

39. Oh dear!

I am so sorry to hear this. My sister did that almost two years ago now, she was 68. Her husband committed suicide eight yeas prior and she'd had a hard road on all levels thereafter. She left us with a house going into foreclosure and a big legal mess.

I am sorry for you and your family. I am noticing that I count how many siblings I have left lately, 3 out of 5, and it gives me an odd feeling.

I do hope that you are able to endure all that comes next, my thoughts and meditations will include you and your family for a while.


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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:30 PM

40. So very very sorry.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:31 PM

41. My dad hanged himself in 1973- This won't go away. Please find a group, a therapist, a clergy-person

a survivor's group; whatever you can do in the way of support. I know it's too recent and immediate right now, but your Democratic Underground family is here for you.

Alliance of Hope for Suicide Loss Survivors http://www.allianceofhope.org/

Survivors of suicide http://www.survivorsofsuicide.com/

Aftermath of Suicide: Help for Families https://www.elementsbehavioralhealth.com/mental-health/aftermath-of-suicide-help-for-families/

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Response to NBachers (Reply #41)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:45 PM

108. Sorry you had to experience a terrific loss this way.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:32 PM

42. ..

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:32 PM

43. My condolences for your loss. We never know how a person will handle the loss of a spouse.

I've seen strong people collapse under the strain of grieving and weak handle it with relative ease. It is a long road to go down and there is no time limit.

I'm sorry your sister took that turn in the road.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:33 PM

44. I feel so sorry for you. It's a shame people who are depressed

don't have more sources to help them through their issues. Peace to you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:34 PM

45. I am very sorry

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:34 PM

46. I'm so so very sorry.....

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:35 PM

47. I am in tears ...

... because I understand your anger - and I also understand your sister's pain.

In a few weeks, I will face the second anniversary of my beloved husband's passing. There have been times when I hoped I would fall asleep - and simply not wake up again.

I know I should feel an obligation to "be here" for my children, my siblings, my friends. And yet there is the overwhelming thought that the future I'd envisioned sharing with my husband is now a future of "me" instead of "we". The plans we'd made to retire together, maybe do some traveling, visit far-flung friends and relatives - it all disappeared overnight.

You have a right to be angry. Indulge in it - scream, cry, and curse the forces that led your sister to do what she did.

But remember that grief can be a force too powerful for some to fight, too overwhelming for some to overcome.

Your anger will pass. Your own grief will be with you for a long time to come.

My thoughts are with you and your family.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #47)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:22 AM

142. I was there too

...after my third job loss in a year, the third being a job everybody was begging me to quit because it was driving me into dark places.

My first wife died in 1983 and I'm still grieving.

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Response to TrogL (Reply #142)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:21 AM

215. I am so sorry for your loss.

It is hard to explain to anyone who has not "been there" how devastating such a loss can be.

Back in my younger days - my 30s and 40s - I befriended many widows who lived in my neighbourhood. I often wondered why they couldn't "just move on" with their lives after losing a spouse. I had NO idea how painful that process was, and how difficult it would be to "just move on" as though your world had not been turned upside-down in an instant.

My late husband had been my third marriage - I rejoiced daily in the idea that I had FINALLY met my soul-mate, the man with whom I would live "happily ever after".

As Cher (as Loretta Castorini in Moonstruck) said of her dead husband: "Who knew that man was a gift I couldn't keep."

Alas, my late husband truly was a "gift I couldn't keep". I wish I'd been able to - but sadly for me, life had other plans.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:36 PM

48. I'm so sorry.

Your family is small now, but I'm glad you're not all alone.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:36 PM

49. I'm so sorry for your loss.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:39 PM

50. I'm so sorry.

It is hard to deal with the fact that depression can be a fatal disease. Hugs to you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:40 PM

52. Words cannot express. . my Heart aches for You.

Please be gentle with YourSelf now. . NO guilt.
I will do what I know to do, pray, & send You Love & Light. BLESS YOU, & Yours. 💖

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:41 PM

53. My mom did the same thing ten months after my father died. She was 78. I found her.

I had just got done caring for my father when he died. I found him. The worst and hardest was my husband. Don't feel bad. My mom and I talked about it. I feel if people want to check out they should be able to.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:42 PM

54. I'm very sorry for your loss and pain

(((((hug)))))

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:45 PM

55. So sorry.

One can't carry another's burden or understand the weight they feel. We just can't. But we can empathize.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:46 PM

56. Thank you all. The worse to me was that she was a trained social worker, but I couldn't get her to

try talking to somebody or even getting anti-depression medication. She moved from Florida to an apartment across the street from me in December. Said she'd be better leaving the house she and her husband had had for 43 years. But she only got worse.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #56)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:21 PM

95. People in the helping professions have a high suicide rate.

Part of it comes from thinking that they are trained to handle their issues.

Take a few deep breaths, then a few more. Feel however you feel. Don't become overwhelmed with all of the stuff that comes with a death- there is no real urgency to make arrangements, or clear out her home, or settle her estate. All of that can wait until you are ready.

Let people take care of you. You need taken care of, even if you don't think so. And other people need to feel like they are doing something to help. If they offer casseroles or pizzas, accept. If they ask you what you need, tell them.

If no one is there to help you, tell us. I have seen this community come together and do awesome things. We are here for you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:46 PM

57. I am so sorry. My brother is in the hospital after a

failed suicide attempt. I am both angry and sad.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:48 PM

58. I am so sorry :(

That is so sad.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:48 PM

59. My sister did the same last November

I am so angry with her as well, for not being able to cope with her loss, which was purely monetary.

I hope that you can accept her choice and move on with your life.

I hope for my sake that I can do so as well.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:48 PM

60. My condolences on the loss of your sister.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:49 PM

61. How awful for you. I'm so very sorry for your staggering loss.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:51 PM

62. That's terrible, so sorry for your loss

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:51 PM

63. Deep compassion

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:53 PM

64. I'm sorry for your loss, but I have thought about doing the same thing rather than having my loved

ones deal with the end of life traumas that I have witnessed. I have been with two relatives in their final months, days, and moments. Your sister loved you and wanted to spare you from dealing with her problems.

We all deserve the right go to our rest, in peace, on our own terms.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:53 PM

65. I am so sorry.

That is truly awful. Are your son and granddaughter close by? I hope that they can be with you through this terrible loss.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:54 PM

67. I'm sorry for your loss and I'm even more sorry that you were the one who found her...

 

I'm wishing you lots of eye bleach to blot what you saw from your memory.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:54 PM

68. I am so sorry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:55 PM

69. Oh my goodness, you and the family are in my prayers.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:57 PM

70. I'm so sorry

How awful. I hope that in time sweet memories of your beloved sister will be a comfort to you. Don't be afraid to ask for help in dealing with this painful loss. People are here for you.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:59 PM

71. I am so sorry

You must be in a state of shock now.

In a few weeks you may want to look for a suicide support group. I have been thinking of joining a group near me because of a suicide in my family.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:01 PM

72. I too am so sorry,

someday you will forgive her but anger is the natural reaction to suicide. I read a book "The Angry God" many years ago trying to cope with a suicide (not nearly as close as a sister) and it helped. Not sure its still in print but any good bookstore or library could steer you to something that might help.

Wishing you well.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:02 PM

73. So sorry for your loss.

Don't be angry. She did the best she could. Grief is a process. Be kind to yourself.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:03 PM

74. I'm so sorry for your loss.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:03 PM

75. Please accept my sincere sympathy for your loss. The human spirit endures.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:03 PM

76. No words


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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:04 PM

77. How very sad for you both.

Many words of wisdom here in this thread.

My brother died when he was only 23, in a scuba diving adventure gone wrong, in 1978. I remember wondering if I was "doing it right," when it came to grieving, because I wasn't going thru the 5 stages delineated by Kubler-Ross.

There's no right way to grieve except whatever way turns out to be right for you, and there's no timetable. I echo those who encourage you to find support of some kind.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:08 PM

78. Your anger is normal.

What you are going through is horrific, and I hope you will find help to ease your suffering. You have my deepest condolences.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:08 PM

79. I am so sorry for your loss. (eom)

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:09 PM

80. Very sorry for your loss

You will be in my prayers.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:09 PM

81. Sorry to hear that.........

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:09 PM

82. My sincerest condolences to you and your family

May you all find peace and comfort.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:09 PM

83. So sorry😞

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:10 PM

84. I am so very sorry.

And I wish you and your family strength and courage.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:11 PM

85. I am so sorry for your loss sinkingfeeling ...

Just so, so sorry

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:12 PM

86. I am so so sorry

I cannot imagine your feelings

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:12 PM

87. I'm so very sorry for your loss. Depression is so rough

My daughter attempted suicide last year and scared the living daylights out of me. If her friends hadn't called 911, she wouldn't be with me. She's fought depression for years. And I'm still worried for her.

And it's completely understandable that you're angry. They don't understand the magnitude of what they're doing, but you end up holding the bag. Hang in there - and like others have said, consider some counseling.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:14 PM

88. I am so sorry for your loss... I have had several very, very close friends that committed suicide...

...I am so sorry you were the one who had to find her... that said, be angry, but realize, this wasn't about you. This was about her and how she felt she could not go on. And try to understand that she may have been dealing with depression and negative feelings that you really can't imagine at this time.

And now to you... please consider talking with someone, please consider seeing a Therapist, you are going to need to reach out to someone and talk with someone who can help you. And wonderful and supporting DU may be, you're probably going to need something more to help process this loss.

Bless your heart.



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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:14 PM

89. Prayers and

Condolences.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:15 PM

90. I am thinking of you

I am so very sorry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:15 PM

91. Heartfelt condolences to you and your family -

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:17 PM

92. I'm so sorry, sinkingfeeling

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:17 PM

93. Understand your feelings.

Been there.

It helped me to remember the person as they were when they were happy and healthy.

Wishing you healing and just know you are not alone.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:20 PM

94. I am so sorry. My heart goes out to you.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:24 PM

96. I am so sorry.

This group offers good help. Do not hesitate to come here for support.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:26 PM

97. I'm so sorry for your loss.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:27 PM

98. So sorry, be well

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:27 PM

99. I'm very so sorry for your loss

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:30 PM

100. I am sorry for the pain you must feel.

What a terrible thing.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:34 PM

101. Adding my prayers and thoughts

with the others.

Be very gentle and kind to yourself.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:39 PM

102. There are no words to express

what you must be going through...blessings on you, your son, and your granddaughter...may you sister finally find peace

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:40 PM

103. Please accept my most sincere and heartfelt condolences.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:40 PM

104. My profound condolences to you and family.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:41 PM

105. I'm so sorry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:44 PM

106. That's rough duty. Very rough. Strength and honor.

Blessings.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:45 PM

107. I have been there too, my sister tried 5 years ago ...

and as the oldest, it fell to me to pick up the mess for her and help her get her life back together. I'm so glad I did, because she has returned to the wonderful woman I always knew. I'm so sorry that you weren't able to reach your sister in time. I hope your heart can heal from this. Reach out to your friends and family please.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:48 PM

109. So sorry for you :( Anger is normal.

Talking to a therapist about it would be an option too.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:51 PM

110. How terrible. I'm deeply sorry.

There are really no words but know we care.

❤️

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:53 PM

111. Oh, God. I am so sorry. My deepest condolence. nt

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:55 PM

112. I'm sorry. Please accept my prayers and condolences.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:55 PM

113. First, condolences

Second, I know their is the funeral/burial/cremation and the bureaucracy and family drama that comes with all of that. You should consider sharing your anger and grief with a counselor or minister. It's a large burden to carry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:56 PM

114. I'm very sorry for your loss.

Hugs for you and hopes that you find strength and peace in this time.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:57 PM

115. I'm so sorry

How sad........I can't imagine.....

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:57 PM

116. This is devastating. So very, very sorry. EOM

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:57 PM

117. it's not you, it was her

she wanted it. don't let it eat you up.

it can eat people up for decades. fuck that.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:59 PM

118. I am so very sorry.

Words fail.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:01 PM

119. I'm very sorry as well. It is very hard to lose someone you love.

Bless you, your son and granddaughter.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:01 PM

120. I am very sorry for your terrible loss.

The whole situation is terrible. I can't imagine what you're going through.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:02 PM

121. I'm sending compassion and strength to you in your time of sorrow.

Please know you are not alone. There are caring people out there who will help and comfort you through your grief. When you're ready, reach out.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:02 PM

122. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:02 PM

123. I am so so sorry. I hope you can find a peace that passes understanding

during this time.

When people commit suicide who are not under horrible outside forces they are not in their right minds. I believe at the time of her death your sister suffered from a mental problem that caused he to not see things clearly.

I am so sorry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:02 PM

124. I'm very sorry to hear that.

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:03 PM

125. I'm so sorry.

My heart goes out to you and your family.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:11 PM

127. I'm so very sorry


I hope you have lots of irl support. This is so hard.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:13 PM

128. I am so very sorry for your loss.

 

As someone who has also lost a loved one to suicide, I wish I could hug you right now.

It's a long journey to understanding, and acceptance of the loss.

I know you are in pain right now, but eventually the anger will subside.

Eventually, you won't see it as a selfish move on her part, but as an illness that she couldn't cope with.

She didn't mean to hurt you. She just simply wanted to stop feeling hurt.

It took me 30 years to understand that.

Much love to you. And again, I am so very sorry for your loss. I wish you peace and comfort.

Remember the love that you shared. Treasure the memories. And try to understand that her death was not meant to hurt you.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:17 PM

129. There truly are no words... just hoping you find peace.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:22 PM

130. Your family is in our thoughts and prayers

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:29 PM

131. I am so sorry for your loss.

I'm hoping the anger will pass, and I'm sending positive energy to help that happen.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:29 PM

132. Oh sf.

Pleas accept my condolences on the profound loss of your sister. There are no words. I'm just so sorry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:37 PM

133. I'm sorry

I'm sorry.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:55 PM

134. that is heartbreaking.

what a tremendous loss and sorrow.

suicide can make losing a loved one even more difficult to cope with.

wishing both you and your sister some peace.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:58 PM

135. I am so very, very sorry for your loss.

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Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:59 PM

136. Sometimes that is the best option for a person and it is not an easy decision, I KNOW TOO!

I am going to do this also. It is all planned and my sister knows and understands. I am planning to go to a foreign country for a pain free assisted suicide. Pain can be so unbearable (both mental and physical) and they do it as a humane form of death for pets. It is legal in CA but few doctors want to do it due to lawsuits. I have my passport renewed and I am ready to go and all of my affairs are in order. I am going to wait for my dog to die first. No one wants me to be in pain and if they are ever in my shoes they have told me that they probably will do the same. I am glad I have a close and loving support group of family and friends. Of course it is sad. I feel so badly that I won't be able to help my sister take care of our parents but she told me that she has her husband and my niece to help her. I am glad I don't have to keep it a secret. That would be difficult for everyone. I hope that you understand how enormous her pain must have been for her to do this. She is in peace now and that should be comforting for you. I am glad that she no longer has that constant aching pain. I understand how both of you feel and have felt. Carry on knowing that she is happy now. She hasn't been happy for so long and now she finally has been released from the tortuous pain she felt every moment of every day. Peace for all of you!

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:59 AM

177. This Is Sooo

not helpful.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:03 AM

137. I am so very sorry, sinkingfeeling.


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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:07 AM

138. So, so sorry for your loss

I wanted to recommend to you that you might want to learn about the seven stages of grief. It is important as you travel through the time ahead to realize the different feelings you will have in this journey of grieving. Here is a link I found that when you feel up to it, you might want to read. Although the loss of your sister is tragic and will take time for you to accept, try to remember it is important to take care of yourself as well.

http://www.journey-through-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html

Best regards,

Sam

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:10 AM

139. ...


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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:46 AM

140. So heartbreaking, sinkingfeeling.

Prayers for peace and comfort for you and your son and granddaughter.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:17 AM

141. What a terrible thing

I don't blame you for being angry. I am sorry for your loss, and hope you take time for yourself to heal before trying to move forward.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:26 AM

143. I'm so sorry.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:24 AM

144. :(

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:44 AM

145. I am so sorry for your loss.



don't know what to say, I hurt for you.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:47 AM

146. I am so very sorry for your loss

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:19 AM

147. There are no words.

You will have moments, many, many, moments of unspeakable grief during the coming days and weeks and months and yes, years. My advice is to seek counsel to deal with your pain. Everyone handles their grief differently, but in the end, it's all about feeling helpless and lonely. I've been there and deal with it every day. First I was angry, then felt guilty that I couldn't have been of more help. I will have to say, I don't think it's helpful to blame the person who felt so alone, they felt the only way to escape their pain was to end it all. Until you've been in that exact same position, how could one possibly know what was going on in her heart and soul and mind. Please take care of yourself and express your grief openly and freely ~ it does help to get through the lonely days ahead.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:41 AM

148. (((hugs)), don't know what to say.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:28 AM

149. My deepest sympathies....

What a horrible shock. I know you're dealing with that now, but do not fret about your future.

My mother is single at 75 and even with family around, they rarely visit. She has found a great deal of happiness with her friends she made through volunteering at several places. They meet for coffee, lunch, and play bunko. Several of them also go hiking together.

There is still plenty for you to do and you can enjoy those years. Take care. so so sorry.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:49 AM

150. Love and peace to you...

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:04 AM

151. OMG

what else can be said right now??

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:08 AM

152. I am so sorry for your loss. But she obviously couldnt

cope with her loss. Always try to think of all the beautiful times you shared together.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:11 AM

153. So sorry for you.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:24 AM

154. I'm very sorry. Please find someone to talk to about it.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:31 AM

155. Deepest sympathies.

We have had suicides in our family, and it is devastating. You constantly ask yourself what else you could have done. Well, NOTHING, it is out of your hands. So very, very sorry.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:37 AM

156. So very sorry

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:43 AM

157. Ahhh shit friend

I'm so sorry! Keep as close to us and family as possible. We do care about you! We may be the internet but we are real people!

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:52 AM

158. Sorry for your loss.

Don't feel guilty over that anger you're feeling---the mixture of grief and anger is a very common reaction to the suicide of a loved one. I speak from experience on that. Treat yourself well, and know that time really does makes things better.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:03 AM

159. So sorry

There are no words to make this go away. Your sister must have been really hurting.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:04 AM

160. I'm so sorry

I can't imagine how hard this was on you.
Please be kind to yourself.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:18 AM

161. My condolences for your loss

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:18 AM

162. This made me cry---so sorry

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:29 AM

163. I'm so very sad for you

Your anger is completely understandable.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:41 AM

164. Sorry

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:46 AM

165. To echo what everyone else has said, I can't imagine tour loss

The only thing I can say is try to take it easy with the memory of your sister.

I personally have attempted suicide before and deal with severe depression from time to time. The state of mind that she was in right before the end of her life is something that, unless you've experienced before, there is no way to understand it. Suicide is a decision that is made by a very irrational state of mind and this does not at all reflect on the person she was.

Do your best to continue to love your sister and her memory. I sincerely hope that anger about how her life ended does not corrupt that for you. She still is and always will be the person you loved and remembered her being.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:59 AM

166. My condolences and prayers

I'm sorry to hear this.
My dad killed himself.
He was in the last few weeks of "end stage" (?) Emphysema, fighting for every breath.

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:21 AM

167. I am so sorry for your loss!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 09:46 AM

168. My deepest sympathy (((hug)))

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:27 AM

169. OMG! I'm so sorry

I hope you are doing OK. Anger is a normal and healthy reaction. Its part of the grieving process.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 10:35 AM

170. I'm so sorry for your loss

Suicide is terrible but finding your sister must have been heartretching.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:19 AM

171. Aw, I'm so sorry to hear this, sinkingfeeling.



Dealing with death is NO picnic.

What sometimes helps is to seek support. There is grief counseling. There are support groups and bereavement groups. Thanks to your post, I now know, for example, that there's even a Bereavement Group here. Seek out support. There are many strong shoulders to lean on, at times like this. When my mother died, they sure came out for me, here. We certainly see that manifested in this thread of yours.

You're gonna have SOOOOOO many mixed feelings in the days, months, and even years ahead. So take comfort wherever you find it. It WILL be there. And remember this, too: "FAMILY" can be defined in many ways, not just by blood. You already have a big one right here, for example.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:23 AM

172. (((((((((((sf)))))) so very, very sorry for your devastating loss. as others have said,

be kind and gentle with yourself.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:32 AM

173. I am so sorry for your loss.

Peace to you and yours.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:46 AM

174. So sorry for your loss.

So sad...

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:50 AM

175. How terrible

I'm so sorry. What an awful thing to happen to you.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 11:50 AM

176. So sorry for your loss

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:10 PM

178. Sorry for your loss

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:34 PM

179. Heat

First of all, I am very sorry for your loss. It must have been horrible to experience the death of your sister in such a sad way.

That said, I don't for the life of me, understand how someone can experience this and be able to go on to the internet the very day that it happened, and air this sad thing in such a public forum to total strangers. Speaking for myself, that would be the very last thing that I would do in that situation. More likely, you would find me, curled up in a corner somewhere.

I have seen this kind of thing shared on this site in the past and have thought the same thing that I am sharing now. This time, I just had to say something.

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Response to JeaneRaye (Reply #179)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:48 PM

185. Did you not notice what forum this was posted in? I have been a member of DU

for a long period of time and feel like sharing with these people is like speaking to my friends. My son is over 500 miles from me and he and my granddaughter are my only remaining 'real family'.

I don't curl up in corners. I needed to share this event.

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Response to JeaneRaye (Reply #179)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:09 PM

192. everyone processes grief differently n/t

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Response to JeaneRaye (Reply #179)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:54 AM

216. It's obvious to me that this group isn't for you. We are a SUPPORT group not a tearing down group.

Your post is out of line.

kesha
auntAgonist.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:53 PM

180. I hope all of our replies give you some bit of comfort.

I am so sorry to hear about your loss. There is nothing really I can say but to hope you do feel the love and caring that is being sent your way by everyone here who takes the time to write a comment.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:12 PM

182. My sympathies

I understand...loss is always sad, and having your sister go that route is sad. I hope you stay well....

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:26 PM

183. I am so very sorry for you...

What a tragedy....

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:35 PM

184. My deepest sympathies for your loss.

Hope you have friends/neighbors to help you through the difficult times ahead. If not, DU is here for you and possibly someone may live close to you that can help you through this. My prayers are with you and your family, please reach out for support.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:05 PM

186. So sorry you have to experience such anguish and grief. Wishing you moments of peace

whenever they can reach you, and strength. Feeling very sad for you, sf.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:07 PM

187. Hugs to you, your son and your daughter

Depression is terrible. I have suffered from it and many times I thought of suicide. The psychic pain can get so bad and you can sink so deeply into it that you truly believe it will never end, and if the onset of her depression was due to her husband's death it had to be even worse. She must have felt her life was over.

All of you need to go through all the stages of grief. Give yourself ample room to do so. Don't get stuck in your anger because neither you or your children deserve that.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:09 PM

188. Dear God

I am so very sorry

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:30 PM

189. Wishing you comfort and strength

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 02:44 PM

190. So very sorry ...

May her memory be eternal.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:07 PM

191. So sorry for your loss

May time help ease the pain and anger

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:11 PM

193. Yea... Understand completely.

But Depression is almost impossible to understand unless you have it..
I’m sure you’ll become more understanding towards her disease as time passes.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:19 PM

194. more than one life torn asunder

Someone once told me "The pain will never go away but you can learn to live with it". That is no comfort for you now, but it is true.

http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/#

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:25 PM

195. My sister committed suicide today. I'm the one who.found her and

I am so sorry for your loss, my condolences.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 03:51 PM

196. I cannot possibly comprehend your loss ..but my deepest condolences are with you.

 

I hope her end was not painful

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:03 PM

197. I'm so sorry

Be kind to, and take care of yourself. Try to focus on the good times you shared. Don't beat yourself up with guilt or regret. Suicide is almost impossible to wrap your head around unless you've been to the edge yourself. If you haven't been there, you're probably not going to understand what depths she must have been in to finally do it. Making sense of it is essentially impossible so please don't expend your energy trying to find an answer to the unanswerable.

Sending good vibes out into the universe for peace for you, your family and all her loved ones.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:07 PM

198. She must have really suffered!

Sorry for your loss.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:25 PM

199. Im so sorry for your loss. You have my condolences

((hugs))

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 04:53 PM

200. I'm so sorry

Very sorry.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:07 PM

201. Oh No! I am so sorry for this loss and

the incredible pain and confusion and the absolute unreality of it all. I hope you can feel my

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:07 PM

202. I'm so sorry. nt

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:10 PM

203. I am so sorry.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:11 PM

204. So sorry

How hard for you. I'm so sorry you had to experience this. And to be the one who found her makes it 100 times more difficult.

Anger is, believe it or not, a healthy response. Grant yourself time and support.

Candle lit.

http://gratefulness.org/candle/otdflr-united-states-2/

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:16 PM

205. So very very sorry

 

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:42 PM

206. My deepest sympathy for you and your family.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:44 PM

207. I so very sorry your sister lost

lost her life to depression and you lost her and your future with her. Someone caught up in depression is really trying and doing the very best they can. I think of your sister as I would someone with cancer. Some survive cancer and some lose their lives to cancer. And like that disease, there are different levels of depression. It's easier to understand a disease that can be scanned, tested for in a lab, something a surgeon might cut out. Yet depression is just as real. Again, I'm sorry.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 05:59 PM

208. It's hard to lose a sister, but this way was brutal.

My heart goes out to you. Sending you oodles of healing vibes.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:22 PM

209. Sorry

I am so sorry. Our family also had a suicide and it is just plain sad and sucky. Take the time for yourself to cry and grieve.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 06:40 PM

210. I'm so sorry for everything you and your family are going through

Losing a loved one to death is very hard but to lose them to suicide is so much harder to deal with. My thoughts go out to your family.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:20 PM

211. I'm so sorry..

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:43 PM

212. Tears shared.

I am SO sorry.

Hugs from another old broad way up here, and yeah, you're welcome at our shack any time. It is the hardest thing to do; a loved one who is gone. May your other loved ones and your good memories keep you.



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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:10 PM

213. sinkingfeeling, please accept my sincerest condolences...

I hope you find the peace you seek and will need going forward.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Wed Apr 19, 2017, 08:44 PM

214. I am so sorry for your loss.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:59 AM

217. I cannot begin to imagine your pain at this time. I hope you can find some comfort here

in this group of loving people.

Many have been in your situation and fully understand how you are processing things.

Please know we are ALL here for you.

I will monitor this page and thread and will try to keep negative folks away. I'm sorry JeanRayes comment was made. She won't be commenting again.

kesha.

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Response to auntAgonist (Reply #217)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 11:20 AM

218. Thank yoy. I'm doing pretty good so far.

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