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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:37 AM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders’ PLAN TO PAY for Economic Agenda to Rebuild the Middle Class


PRESS RELEASE

Bernie Sanders’ Plan to Pay for Economic Agenda to Rebuild the Middle Class



JANUARY 13, 2016


WASHINGTON – Michael Briggs, a spokesman for Bernie Sanders, issued the following statement on Wednesday in response to Clinton’s attack on Sanders’ health care plan:

“Every proposal Senator Sanders has introduced in this campaign has been paid for. We hope the Clinton campaign will stop engaging in false and misleading attacks and instead provide similar clarity on how their proposals will actually be paid for.”


Click here to see a fact sheet on Bernie’s proposals.




https://berniesanders.com/press-release/bernie-sanders-plan-to-pay-for-economic-agenda-to-rebuild-the-middle-class/



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Bernie Sanders’ PLAN TO PAY for Economic Agenda to Rebuild the Middle Class (Original Post) Segami Jan 2016 OP
Where is his plan? Where is his plan? safeinOhio Jan 2016 #1
Where is his plan????? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #4
That's awesome... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #2
where is his pay for for health care? dsc Jan 2016 #3
He has been saying it for a long time, using the $500billion/year safeinOhio Jan 2016 #5
Savings from where?! uponit7771 Jan 2016 #7
Here is where safeinOhio Jan 2016 #10
it won't work that way for many of us dsc Jan 2016 #11
Seems to work in most other countries. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #13
that is why his funding scheme is important dsc Jan 2016 #14
That is the best reason in the world to safeinOhio Jan 2016 #15
Strawman, she's talking about his health care not his overall economic agenda uponit7771 Jan 2016 #6
Who are you calling a "Strawman?" Segami Jan 2016 #8
The sophistry of Sanders reply is a Strawman, injecting something into the conversation that is not uponit7771 Jan 2016 #9
This has been known for a long time. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #12

safeinOhio

(37,651 posts)
1. Where is his plan? Where is his plan?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jan 2016

Well, there you go, you asked for it and now you have it.

any more questions?

dsc

(53,397 posts)
3. where is his pay for for health care?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

that is what she says he isn't saying how he will pay for it and it isn't there.

safeinOhio

(37,651 posts)
5. He has been saying it for a long time, using the $500billion/year
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jan 2016

savings to pay for it..


single payer health care will save taxpayers about $500 billion per year even including the initial costs to train more doctors and nurses. Canada and the other 19 wealthiest countries pay about 60% as much on health as we do, for care that is always free at the point of service, and that results in an extra three years of lifespan.


safeinOhio

(37,651 posts)
10. Here is where
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016





With $570 billion in savings on administration and monopoly profits, a single-payer system would reduce dramatically the burden of health care costs on the United States economy. Over time, furthermore, a single-payer system would allow us to slow the growth in health-care spending.


read more at

https://www.healthcare-now.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/0312friedman.pdf

dsc

(53,397 posts)
11. it won't work that way for many of us
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016

My employer self funds (State of NC) and claims to spend around 5800 a year. Under the funding schemes I have scene I would face an increase in my taxes of around 9% or about 4500. Indeed that is 1300 to the good but that is only if the state gives me that money which they most assuredly won't.

safeinOhio

(37,651 posts)
13. Seems to work in most other countries.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jan 2016

We pay the most and don't get the best care. More of the same will not help.

dsc

(53,397 posts)
14. that is why his funding scheme is important
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jan 2016

and it should be noted that medicare hasn't resulted in less expensive care for the elderly even in the parts of the medical field in which it has become single payer. The fact is the reductions only occur via negotiation. But that said, there will be winners and losers. No matter who much less my medical care costs, the state (my employer) will reap the benefits but I (via a 9% payroll tax) will reap the costs. It will cost me money. He should be honest about that.

safeinOhio

(37,651 posts)
15. That is the best reason in the world to
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jan 2016

elect people that do not take money from Insurance and big Pharma to get elected. That is pretty much my reason to support those that don't, in the first place.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
9. The sophistry of Sanders reply is a Strawman, injecting something into the conversation that is not
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jan 2016

.. his oppoents position or query and then arguing against it.

In this case he's injecting his economic agenda into his opponents position and when she's talking about his health plan and how he's going to pay for single payer other than "savings" from going to single payer.

Sanders the "non politician" is cutting and running from this by proffering a non answer

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