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If the shoe was on the other foot that Hillary didn't release her Healthcare plan (Original Post) bigdarryl Jan 2016 OP
Nope, not at all. No one needs any details mmonk Jan 2016 #1
Why are all you Clinton supporters asking for this information now? coyote Jan 2016 #2
Bernie promised to release the details before Iowa: Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #5
Pffft. earthside Jan 2016 #3
Don't you agree voters should know how much their taxes will be under Bernie's plan? Alfresco Jan 2016 #7
No. It's not at issue here. If you want details go to Ron Green Jan 2016 #10
Iowa voters don't deserve to know how much Bernie will raise their taxes? Alfresco Jan 2016 #11
You really sound like a third-grader here. Ron Green Jan 2016 #20
Or, if the plan is doable ... I mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #13
Right, a feasibility study is warranted as well given all the variables invoved.. Alfresco Jan 2016 #15
And as with any good feasibility study ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #18
Pretty simple BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #4
Good Morning, my old friend. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #9
Hey buddy BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #12
I wish I had your level of detachment. You're a better man than me. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #14
I'm just an Obama guy in mourning BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #16
I will miss him./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #17
You mad Bro? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #6
K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #8
Hillary supporters sound more like republicans everyday. JRLeft Jan 2016 #19

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
1. Nope, not at all. No one needs any details
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jan 2016

since she made it clear she supports the ACA and is opposed to single payer. No details are needed.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
2. Why are all you Clinton supporters asking for this information now?
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jan 2016

Oh that´s right, it´s because Chelsea lied about Bernie´s plan and you have to deflect.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
3. Pffft.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:03 AM
Jan 2016

Everybody knows Sanders is for Single Payer.

Everybody knows Clinton is now against Single Payer.

And ... nobody but some panicky Hillarians cares about when Sanders puts out specifics of a plan.

This is why Hillary is losing -- petty attacks on inconsequential petty points.
Just defend being against Single Payer if you don't like Sen. Sanders.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
10. No. It's not at issue here. If you want details go to
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jan 2016

pnhp.org or any number of sources who've done the work of showing what real, comprehensive health care in the U S will look like.

What's at issue here is that a President who supports a transformed system is to be chosen over one who does not.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
20. You really sound like a third-grader here.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jan 2016

A president doesn't "raise their taxes." He (or she) advocates for policies and talks to the American people about making the changes we need.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. Or, if the plan is doable ... I mean ...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jan 2016

without "magic asterisks" or a couple 10s of millions of torch carrying people showing up on the steps of the Capitol?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. And as with any good feasibility study ...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jan 2016

It should include an analysis of, given the variables, whether there is a realistic political path to getting there.

Unfortunately, I think Vermont's aborted attempt at single payer will throw a huge wet political blanket on any single payer plan, for the near future.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
4. Pretty simple
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie tells CNN on Tuesday all the details will be out before Iowa. His campaign sends a different message on Wednesday. That's called an obvious opening for your opponent.

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