2016 Postmortem
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The former Maryland governors support in Iowa is the only reason hes appearing in Sundays Democratic debate. After days of uncertainty as to whether or not hed qualify, NBC News announced Thursday that hed make the stage. But while thats good for OMalley, whos struggled to gain the publics attention since his campaign launched in late May, it doesnt mean hes a competitive candidate. What he could be, though, is influential. When OMalleys backers show up to caucus on February 1, they could tip the race: not to OMalley, but to their second choice.
It all comes down to the math. When voters arrive at each of the roughly 1,700 caucus meetings, they sort themselves into groups backing different candidates. Candidates need the support of 15 percent of those assembled. At any precinct where they fail to clear that hurdle, theyll be given the option to back one of OMalleys rivals. (They can also simply go home, or try to convince Clinton and Sanders supporters to join their camp, instead.)
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/omalley-iowa-caucus-sanders/424224/
elleng
(130,956 posts)(Forty percent of those surveyed in Thursdays poll said they could be persuaded to join another camp; Tuesdays poll had that figure at 20 percent.) But still: Its a near-impossibility that OMalley would ever make enough gains to be viable come caucus time.
That leaves OMalleys supporters with a potentially game-changing choice, if the race remains this tight. If, after the first ballot, they break decisively toward either Sanders or Clinton, they could deliver the crucial first state.
Its not entirely clear who their second choice would actually be, though. Recent analysis from liberal Public Policy Polling suggests itd be Sanders. In Iowa we find his supporters would prefer Sanders over Clinton 43/20, their findings read. Its an intriguing finding, even if the sample size is small. But for a candidate whos complained of power imbalances in the Democratic primary, OMalley could find himself in a very powerful position indeed.'
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)elleng
(130,956 posts)Took it from the body of the article, as I think such info is valuable.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)...but not quite there the first time around, it would be reasonable for his supporters to make the argument that sending a delegate for O'Malley from the precinct could impact whether or not his voice in the debate on certain issues such as immigration and guns gets squelched or not in future primary and caucus contests later this season.
They might very well find folks in other corners of the room who would like to send their own candidate a message.
But if O'Malley's corner isn't close to 15%, they'll likely disperse among the corners that meet the 15% threshold. O'Malley himself could have a big impact on how that redistribution occurs, should he want to.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)rurallib
(62,416 posts)Maybe we'll be surprised on caucus night.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)If his supporters choose Hillary after supporting O'Malley's campaign I would be gobsmacked.
elleng
(130,956 posts)but I've been wrong before!
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Scenario: O'Malley is stuck at 10%. His supporters are about to give up and go to one of the two leaders. The Clinton precinct captain knows that O'Malley is a leftie, and also knows some of the O'Malley people personally and knows they'll prefer Sanders over Clinton.
If I were a Clinton strategist, I'd have a contingency plan. The precinct captain looks at the Clinton crowd and says, "You, you, you, and you -- go over to O'Malley to bring him to 15%." Better for Clinton to lose 5% than for Sanders to gain 10%, would be the reasoning.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but ultimately, slimy clintonian tactics will not work, not this time
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)you can't just walk in and pull the lever for your candidate. first there are the presentations, arguments, etc and then if the threshold is not met, having to vote second choice or go home.
they will not know the satisfsction of pulling the lever for YOUR guy (or gal) no matter what their standing in the polls. that seems unfair to voters and the candidates. if they are on the ballot, people should get to vote for them.