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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:58 PM Jan 2016

Former DNC Chair and Kennedy Ally Paul Kirk Endorses Bernie!

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is picking up the endorsement of former Democratic National Committee chairman Paul Kirk, an ally of the late Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Kirk will announce his endorsement Thursday in Hanover, New Hampshire.

Kirk was appointed to the Senate after Kennedy's death in 2009 and briefly served with Sanders. He backed President Barack Obama in 2008.

Kirk said in prepared remarks that of all the presidential candidates, the Vermont senator has most consistently talked about the dangers facing the nation's democracy.

Polls show Sanders and Hillary Clinton locked in a close race in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Clinton has a large lead over Sanders among DNC "superdelegates" who can support the candidate of their choice at the party's convention. But Kirk's endorsement adds to Sanders' list.


http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-01-14/sanders-endorsed-by-former-dnc-chairman-kirk
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Former DNC Chair and Kennedy Ally Paul Kirk Endorses Bernie! (Original Post) Fawke Em Jan 2016 OP
Endorsements don't matter much and this one in particular is hardly anything to get excited about. Metric System Jan 2016 #1
The thing about this one is only that he's a Kennedy family ally. eom Fawke Em Jan 2016 #2
I think anyone can get excited about anything he or she feels like getting excited about. merrily Jan 2016 #5
Yep. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #6
Just a reminder someone involved with politics that long is the establishment. Agschmid Jan 2016 #20
As much as almost anyone- you can say he represents what was the Kennedy wing of the party karynnj Jan 2016 #18
Huh. your post history in the subject tells a different story. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #33
Former DNC Chair? He was a U.S. Senator! merrily Jan 2016 #3
Yes - and a Kennedy ally! Fawke Em Jan 2016 #4
Exactly. The Lion of the Senate chose him to take his seat after he passed and Gov. Patrick complied merrily Jan 2016 #8
You're right about that. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #23
Well, to be honest, kind of a Senator Armstead Jan 2016 #7
Regardless, he was a U.S. Senator. merrily Jan 2016 #10
Let's get him back as DNC head Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #32
What? Worst results in 86 years aren't good enough for you now? merrily Jan 2016 #34
I guess that Howard Dean may not like this. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #9
Who gives a crap what Howard Dean does or doesn't like? merrily Jan 2016 #12
Both are former DNC chairs. Bernie now has an equal to Dean to go on shows opposite him Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #15
My point was, I could not care less what Dean does or doesn't like. merrily Jan 2016 #17
I don't think any of us do. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #21
I don't think Howard has been a great get for shows since 2009. merrily Jan 2016 #35
You will understand this. pangaia Jan 2016 #22
I must admit, when she said 'here from Massachusetts' Kentonio Jan 2016 #11
Good point, but I think it is early for that one to endorse. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #16
I have to say... PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #13
I've heard of him.....long-time Kennedy ally. Punkingal Jan 2016 #19
A lot of people in New England know who he is. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #24
Can we now kick DWS out and put Sen. Kirk in??? Please! Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #14
Things must be getting desperate in the Bernie bunker. . . enid602 Jan 2016 #25
Who is "littlesis"? bvf Jan 2016 #27
did not read enid602 Jan 2016 #30
"did not read" bvf Jan 2016 #31
The littlesis blog looks legit to me dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author bvf Jan 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author bvf Jan 2016 #42
Just saw this, no worries! dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #43
If one wants to judge, then should check spelling. Only time I call it. (golden) libdem4life Jan 2016 #47
Bravo! well done 2016 presidential candidate Senator Bernie Sanders. :) appalachiablue Jan 2016 #26
Clinton=oligharcy billhicks76 Jan 2016 #28
Excellent! emulatorloo Jan 2016 #29
I say we call for him to replace DWS. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #36
good stuff. Wasn't familiar with Paul, but it's all good. #FeeltheBern! Karma13612 Jan 2016 #38
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! - Kirk/Kennedy Support Bernie Sanders !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #40
This thread needs more attention Kalidurga Jan 2016 #44
Morning Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #45
Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #46

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
1. Endorsements don't matter much and this one in particular is hardly anything to get excited about.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jan 2016

NOTE: I'm referring to endorsements, period, not just Sanders endorsements. But congrats, I guess.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
6. Yep.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jan 2016

In general, endorsements don't do much for me, but this one signals that the establishment can be OK with Bernie.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
18. As much as almost anyone- you can say he represents what was the Kennedy wing of the party
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jan 2016

In his case, it is not just who he is, but the work he and Kennedy did over the years. He is a good guy to have on your side when the other side challenges you on health care. He was there!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. Exactly. The Lion of the Senate chose him to take his seat after he passed and Gov. Patrick complied
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

But, usually, when an official is described, one uses the highest title he or she ever had. U.S. Senator trumps DNC head. That was my point.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. Well, to be honest, kind of a Senator
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jan 2016

More a placeholder.

But a great endorsement nonetheless because he has been a "player."

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. What? Worst results in 86 years aren't good enough for you now?
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

What? You some kind of perfectionist or something?

(Support Canova!)

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. Both are former DNC chairs. Bernie now has an equal to Dean to go on shows opposite him
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

and to do for Bernie what Dean is doing for Hillary.


He isn't going to like it.




 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
21. I don't think any of us do.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

My point is that Howard was a great "get" for shows. Now Bernie has someone of similar credentials to debate him on those shows.


It isn't about what he likes, it is about his effectiveness as a spokesperson. It was just diminished.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. I don't think Howard has been a great get for shows since 2009.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jan 2016

More like a shill trying to stay relevant. I think he would have shown up for Pets Gone Wild.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. You will understand this.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

With all the very recent foaming at the mouth and second guessing about, OH MY . WHO will be Bernie's newest endorser? Oh-- EW, or.. Joe, Oh this will be the BIG ONE,,,The King of Prussia, Emperor Alexander, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias.... I was a little embarrassed by it all...embarrassed as a Bernie fan.....
Not that this endorsement isn't very nice, but....

But the contagious excitement is good to see...





 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. Good point, but I think it is early for that one to endorse.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

This could be a precursor. Lets give it a week and see.


PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
13. I have to say...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

WHO?! I mean I've heard of Ted Kennedy but I've never heard of this guy. I guess maybe if you're really BIG into the beltway you've heard of this guy more?
I really want Bernie to land the NAACP or the Congressional Black Caucus.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
24. A lot of people in New England know who he is.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jan 2016


Look at it this way: he's practically Kennedy by proxy.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
25. Things must be getting desperate in the Bernie bunker. . .
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016


from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/24/786031/-


The same year that Hartford Insurance settled a $20 million fraud suit with the state of New York, board member and compensation chair Paul Kirk decided to make the company's CEO the second-highest paid executive in the insurance industry.
Today, Kirk was named Kennedy's successor in the Senate by Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick.
Sunlight's Paul Blumenthal detailed Paul Kirk's corporate ties in a post this morning, highlighting his role on Hartford Financial Services' compensation committee and his past lobbying work for Aventis pharmaceuticals. He also noted that Kirk helped make CEO Ramani Ayer one of the most overpaid executives in the country, according to Forbes, with compensation of $9 million in 2008. The New York Times chose to report exactly none of this in an article posted this afternoon.
The Hartford is an insurance company, so it wasn't very hard to find areas where they've run afoul of the law. Seriously: google "Hartford Financial" fraud. There you have it: in 2006, the company agreed to pay $20 million to settle an investigation by New York and Connecticut into fraudulent sales of retirement products:

enid602

(8,620 posts)
30. did not read
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jan 2016

No I didn't, but hey, I'm proud of Bern. He just got endorsed by an actual capitalist. Apparently not a very clean one though. I wonder if this is the guy who arranged Jane's golfen parachute.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
37. The littlesis blog looks legit to me
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jan 2016

I still think it's a good endorsement, Kennedy family ties are certainly a good thing. Doesn't mean the endorser is beyond scrutiny.

Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #37)

Response to bvf (Reply #39)

Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #41)

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
44. This thread needs more attention
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jan 2016

I think that Bernie has another person who is going to work to get him more delegates and that is a very very very good thing.

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