Re: Iran sanctions So it looks like Hilly-baby was tipped off

[sonofspy777]

by her cronies in the State Department.

Hillary prescient? Not so much.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell youQ

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Hilly-baby?

How old are you?

[ScreamingMeemie]

2. Hilly-baby???

You are better than that.

[sonofspy777]

19. Didn't you ever watch Magnum PI?

Not a vicious reference.

eom

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. Nope, and I hope to vote for Bernie.

But I use real names. Sorry.

[JoePhilly]

3. Sounds like some one needs ...

They come in lots of flavors.

[emulatorloo]

4. Un-rec for the sleazy gratuitous smear of John Kerry's state dept as "cronies"

Best move on to the next fake DU outrage.

[mylye2222]

8. He didnt slammed ALL Statte Dept. Or at least I didnt understood like that.

But some State officials, who are carreer diplomats, and close to the Clintons, didn't left along with her when she stepped down in 2013.
My take is more that, maybe, some of those very officials are determined to protect their candidate, including using the wrongest way by trying to undermine from within the current Admin job.

[riversedge]

43. Broad brushing means ALL. Op is shameless

[mylye2222]

5. knR!

Yeah it sounds weird!
1. US lifts sanctions
2. Hillary issues a statement when she asks for more sanctions over missile issues
2. US puts new sanctions!

That says a lot about how strong Clintonworld holds ANY Dem powerstructures!

[Arkansas Granny]

6. Hilly-baby? I expect to see that on FR.

[tammywammy]

9. People are loosing it on here.

Hilly-baby.

Have some decency and self-delet this crap

[JRLeft]

12. losing not loosing

[tammywammy]

14. Thank you for the typo report.

[JRLeft]

64. You're welcome.

[yardwork]

68. You're welcome. Apostrophes matter.

[JRLeft]

70. Thank you

[riversedge]

46. so many things that sound like FR show up on DU last few months and are allowed to stand.

[hrmjustin]

10. I understand your pissed you guys looked ridiculous going after Hillary the way you did and

were proven wrong but you are acting petulant now.

[oasis]

15. Exactamundo.

[hrmjustin]

17. The dishonesty on this issue on behalf of his supporters

is telling.

[oasis]

22. They're crossing their fingers tonight's debate gets minimal viewership.

Someone's going to get his hat handed to him.

[hrmjustin]

25. Yep.

He is not good at debating.

[riversedge]

47. After all the yellling and sceaming these last few months about getting more debates!!!

[oasis]

56. "Be careful what you wish for" as the saying goes.

heh, heh

[Fawke Em]

60. Proven wrong about what?

She's flailing and we can see it.

From what I've seen, it's the Hill fans who are acting petulant.

[hrmjustin]

61. The president imposed the sanctions she called for today.

[oasis]

72. "Standing room only" in the DU cricket patch today.

[hrmjustin]

75. Lol.

[Gman]

11. Stop whining about Sanders being out of the loop

It makes Sanders look like a whiner and complainer when his supporters cry about stuff.

[Autumn]

13. Yeah I think so too. Something was wrong about her coming out for sanctions right

after Obama lifted them.

[hrmjustin]

16. Yet he imposed them today.

She was right.

[Autumn]

21. That's why some of us think she had an inside source to let her know that Obama

was going to turn around and impose more sanctions. That was a daring move for her to make and Hillary doesn't do daring

[hrmjustin]

24. Typical of you and your friends.

You can't even admit you are wrong and you have to insult her intelligence with your bogus charge.

Speaks volumes about you guys that post this tin foil stuff.

[Autumn]

29. You got proof I'm wrong? No you don't. Like everything else

it's shady as fuck.

[hrmjustin]

31. So you make a bogus claim and then tell me to disprove it.

Poor form Autumn! I thought better of you.

[Autumn]

34. Here's whats bogus justin you can't prove my opinion is wrong so you do the typical thing

and attack. You have no knowledge of what went on just an opinion, same as everyone else . I'll say it again. I think one of her friends at State leaked to her that Obama was going to impose sanctions and that's why she came out for sanctions. As far as I'm concerned hat's shady as all fuck and typical Hillary. I won't lose a second of sleep over what you think of me.

[hrmjustin]

35. You have stepped into tin foil land.

Hope you enjoy it.

[joshcryer]

50. Having "inside info" is not "shady as fuck."

They did the missile tests in Oct and then again in Dec, and the Obama administration decided they would consider new sanctions more than two weeks ago, publicly stated.

In retrospect it should've been seen coming, and if her campaign had a contact (on the timing), that's fine. The timing and optics was what was suspect to me, because it seems odd to pull a "Not the Onion" style messaging right after something good happens, which is what tells me she probably had a contact giving her a heads up. Coming out for the sanctions before they get implemented makes her look strong, especially with all the mockery that they expected to happen.

First clever move I've seen in weeks.

[Autumn]

53. That's what I think,she had a contact that gave her a heads up.

As for shady or not ? My opinion is that is was shady and I have come to expect that from her campaign. YMMV

[Squinch]

78. I think BERNIE implanted the inside information in her brain with a golden beetle! You got proof

I'm wrong? No you don't. Like everything else, it's shady as fuck.

[Autumn]

86. I'm not about to ask for proof on that.

My opinion is still the same. I think she was clued in that Obama was going to impose sanctions today so she went bold.

[nc4bo]

26. Nothing surprises me after witnessing the sleaze of 2008.

The sky is the limit!

[Autumn]

30. Yes, this shit it typical and it leaves a bad taste.

[hrmjustin]

33. Your own bogus claims hould leave a bad taste in your mouth.

[Autumn]

36. Prove my opinion is bogus justin. I'll wait.

Notice I'm not claiming that your little opinion is bogus? Because it's an opinion justin.

[hrmjustin]

37. Prove yours! Oh wait you can't because you made it up.

[Autumn]

39. Here justin

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion
opinion
[uh-pin-yuh n]

noun
1.
a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2.
a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3.
the formal expression of a professional judgment:
to ask for a second medical opinion.
4.
Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5.
a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.:
to forfeit someone's good opinion.
6.
a favorable estimate; esteem:
I haven't much of an opinion of him

Now you go on and have a nice day justin this silly back and forth is boring as all hell and I'm done with it.

[hrmjustin]

40. You should be embarrassed instead of bored.

Making things up is a sign you lost the argument.

[Autumn]

42. Not embarrassed at all by my opinions. Do your opinions embarrass you?

I see you didn't bother reading the definition of opinion and I'm not interested in arguing with you so...

[hrmjustin]

44. Opinions can be embarrassing.

You just can't admit Hillary got this right. You have to make stuff up to put her down.

[Autumn]

48. .

[hrmjustin]

54. Enjoy your entry into the tin foil brigade club.

[Autumn]

58. Nice. That's an opinion that you posted justin

Here's another opinion by another person.

Four Americans detained in Iran — Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian, former U.S. Marine Amir Hekmati, Christian pastor Saeed Abedini, and Nosratollah Khosravi-Roodsari — were released as part of the exchange. A fifth American in custody, a student by the name of Matthew Trevithick, was released separately on Saturday.
Bauer also tweeted that while he was imprisoned in Iran, “whenever I heard Hillary’s voice, my heart would sink. All she ever does with Iran is inflame tensions.”

He expressed shock, or perhaps sarcasm, at the fact that Clinton — the Democratic front-runner in a narrow primary of three — was calling for sanctions, rather than Republican front-runners Donald Trump or Ted Cruz.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/iran-prisoner-shane-bauer-slams-hillary-clinton-217891#ixzz3xXGC3EhC

[hrmjustin]

59. The president disagrees.

He imposed Sanctions today.

[Autumn]

66. Yes Obama made the decision to impose sanctions, but I didn't hear Obama disagree

with what the former hostage had to say about Hillary.

Four Americans detained in Iran — Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaian, former U.S. Marine Amir Hekmati, Christian pastor Saeed Abedini, and Nosratollah Khosravi-Roodsari — were released as part of the exchange. A fifth American in custody, a student by the name of Matthew Trevithick, was released separately on Saturday.
Bauer also tweeted that while he was imprisoned in Iran, “whenever I heard Hillary’s voice, my heart would sink. All she ever does with Iran is inflame tensions.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/iran-prisoner-shane-bauer-slams-hillary-clinton-217891#ixzz3xXGC3EhC

[hrmjustin]

67. He can say whatever he wants but Sanctions worked and Hillary and Obama was right.

[Autumn]

71. Well I'm not interesting in branching out into a discussion on sanctions working or not.

I responded to this topic because I found it interesting that Hillary jumped right on the sanctions without waiting to see how it polled. Hillary is very cautious. And I also think it reasonable to believe that Hillary had inside knowledge of Obama's coming sanctions from one of her contacts at State.

[hrmjustin]

73. I think Hillary is highly intelligent and can think all by herself.

[99Forever]

18. The political version of insider trading.

As if We the People are so stupid as to not notice.

Enjoy having your intelligence insulted Democrats?

[Juicy_Bellows]

38. Some here are feigning ignorance.

It is glaringly obvious that she had knowledge beforehand and wanted to act tough before the debate. Can we be certain? No, but it's the most logical conclusion. Side note - all the threads about it last night were absent of the usual players but now we see them back at it. Were they told to sit tight, news is coming tomorrow? I know that's deep tin foil theory right there but, well, just thinking out loud.

[silenttigersong]

52. That^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t

[OKNancy]

23. good grief...

Do you ever get embarrassed by posting such weird conspiracy crap?

[gwheezie]

27. Are you kidding me?

The test of their ballestic missles violated the deal they made. I assume Hillary had some knowledge of what was in the deal and made her statement after the hostages were released and the deal was done. If Bernie had a better handle on what is going on on the world he may have also made the same statement. Or are Bernie supporters making the argument he doesn't plan to enforce what Iran agreed to?
That is my question, is Bernie going to uphold the deal we made with Iran or is he not interested or aware of this major foriegn policy accomplishment.

[Green Forest]

28. Yup. Hillary leaked Pres. Obama's policy plan to puff up her foreign policy creds before the debate.

I would bet Barack and John Kerry are sick if Hillary stepping on their toes and stealing their policy thunder to self-promote. No wonder Joe Biden practically endorsed Bernie last week.

[hrmjustin]

32. And the moon is made of cheese.

I know because the mouse in my house told me there is a mouse colony on the moon.

[zappaman]

90. Wtf?

Is that true?
If so, we should bomb the moon to bits and collect cheese!

[hrmjustin]

91. Sounds like a plan!

[DURHAM D]

41. How silly.

More than likely John and the President both spoke with Hillary before, during and after the events over the past few days. She did create the framework for the agreement and they were likely seeking her advice throughout the process.

gheez louize - How naive can one be?

[sufrommich]

45. This. There's no doubt in my mind that the Obama

administration not only knew what her statement would be, but approved it. Hence the 12 hour wait.

[DURHAM D]

49. Exactly.

They were working together. It is very possible that Hillary was asked to make a phone call or two to someone she has a close(er) relationship with to move things along.

I guess I should no longer be shocked at some of the stuff posted on DU but if you don't know the first damn thing about how diplomacy works why are people so willing to post their absolute ignorance, even on the internet?

[joshcryer]

57. The missile tests are also "recent memory."

It could have easily come up in a simple "congratulatory" phone call. But it's "shady as fuck" I suppose, to get information like that.

[joshcryer]

55. No, it's clear she did not have specifics.

She said only the obvious when you look at what the Obama administration was saying in late Dec.

[Beacool]

74. You forgot your sarcasm emoticon...........

[gwheezie]

76. I bet Obama and Kerry talk trash about her all the time

They probably text each other about what a pia Hillary is and call her hilly baby behind her back. I mean poor Obama was forced to have her in his cabinet and he couldn't stand her
Sarcasm

[Squinch]

51. First you guys were snarky, then you were obnoxious, and finally you're just freaking hilarious!

[leftofcool]

62. pout much?

[Beacool]

63. Oh, I see.... Is that the new meme?

Yes, because someone who was SOS for four years wouldn't know what she was talking about.

This place is a joke.

[aspirant]

65. Is Hills now a real pyschic,

can she predict the future?

When will Libya stabilize, exact date please Hills.

[yardwork]

69. Pathetic. /nt

[Gothmog]

77. Clinton's call for sanctions is good policy

[Green Forest]

80. You mean her leaking of Obama's Iran policy decision before he made the announcement himself.

[gwheezie]

81. Leaking the policy?

It's a violation of the agreement. Tell me this, would Bernie ignore the work Obama and Kerry did and not follow this agreement?

[Squinch]

82. Bahahaha! First she was throwing him under the bus, and now she's stealing his spotlight! You

guys have to get your story straight.

Start with this: do the Bernie kids think the sanctions are good or bad? Because you guys are all over the place on them! First they were the spawn of Satan and now they're something good that she's trying to take credit for.

[Gothmog]

83. These sanction were obvious and were needed

[Codeine]

79. "Hilly-baby"? Jesus Fucking Christ.

It's a madness with some of you.

[Kelvin Mace]

85. Really? Hilly-baby?

You do realize that is condescendingly sexist

[applegrove]

87. Maybe she just knows the issues.

[Green Forest]

88. The timing is quite suspect. More likely she knows the people in the State Dep't.

And leaked the info so she could frame her self-congratulatory soundbite during the debate.

[applegrove]

94. But in the lead up to the Iran negotiations she would not have known the aimed deal would be about

nukes not ballistic missiles...

[ismnotwasm]

89. There there.

There there.

[MineralMan]

92. Hilly-baby? No way!

You're clearly on the wrong website with that crap.

[MineralMan]

93. I see you're on a time of until after Super Tuesday.

Bye, then, for awhile.

[mcar]

95. Hilly-baby?

This place has really jumped the shark.