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Blue Yorker

(436 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:23 PM Sep 2012

Ipsos tracking poll (thursday): Obama "solidifies lead" over Romney

Paging Gallup. Obama leads Romney by 5% among Likely Voters in this poll; yet in Gallup's more Democratic friendly Registered Voters poll, we are led to believe they're tied.

Ipsos' pollster (Julia Clark) "gives Obama a 70 percent to 80 percent chance of winning".


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-pollbre88i1e9-20120919,0,5438220.story

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Ipsos tracking poll (thursday): Obama "solidifies lead" over Romney (Original Post) Blue Yorker Sep 2012 OP
Ipsos "gives Obama a 70 percent to 80 percent chance of winning" TroyD Sep 2012 #1
That's Essentially What Intrade, the Iowa Elections Market, And Betfair Are Indicating DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #3
Wonder if RCP will put this one in their average? TroyD Sep 2012 #2
Gallup is more 'democratically friendly'? WI_DEM Sep 2012 #4
didn't say that Blue Yorker Sep 2012 #6
They all have margis for error. Statisticians play CYA big time BlueStreak Sep 2012 #5

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
1. Ipsos "gives Obama a 70 percent to 80 percent chance of winning"
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:25 PM
Sep 2012

Sounds like someone has been reading Nate Silver.

Nate Silver says 75% for Obama right now.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,999 posts)
3. That's Essentially What Intrade, the Iowa Elections Market, And Betfair Are Indicating
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:30 PM
Sep 2012

I would link them if I wasn't about to leave.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
2. Wonder if RCP will put this one in their average?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
Sep 2012

They haven't put all of the Reuters/Ipsos tracking polls in there lately for some reason.

 

Blue Yorker

(436 posts)
6. didn't say that
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:56 PM
Sep 2012

I said RV sample is more Democratic-friendly than LV sample. That's regardless of polls, in almost all cases;

Yet we are led to believe that Obama performs worse in an RV poll, despite doing well in LV polls, where he should be performing worse.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. They all have margis for error. Statisticians play CYA big time
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:50 PM
Sep 2012

And remember the margin is actually twice what it seems because you have to apply the margin to BOTH numbers (Romney and Obama).

A lot of these polls sample just a few hundred people nationally. They talk a big story about how scientific it is, but a lot of it is BS. Any given poll can be influenced by the people asking the questions, when the calls were made, what shows were ON TV at the time, etc. You can't really react to one poll. When a bunch of them say the same thing then you can start to have some confidence.

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