Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:00 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

Bernie waited for Hillary but she turned and walked away! That felt horrible!

All said good night and Bernie waited for Hillary to continue speaking to another, then she turned and walked away. You could see it was deliberate and it looked horrible!

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Bernie waited for Hillary but she turned and walked away! That felt horrible! (Original post)	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	OP
Yes, she looked petty for doing that. eom	fleur-de-lisa	Jan 2016	#1
yes. one has to be careful of how one treats an	hopemountain	Jan 2016	#139
What	bigdarryl	Jan 2016	#2
No class whatsoever. Money cannot buy class.	FlatBaroque	Jan 2016	#3
bad sportsmanship for sure	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#7
That Is Just Hillary Being Hillary.. That IS WHO She IS!!!	CorporatistNation	Jan 2016	#29
Thread winner.	hifiguy	Jan 2016	#40
She looked like she was going to explode when the speaking fees were brought out.	kristopher	Jan 2016	#87
Yep	MissDeeds	Jan 2016	#48
Money Has Exacerbated Her Lack of Character!	CorporatistNation	Jan 2016	#55
Classless	azmom	Jan 2016	#4
Good	DURHAM D	Jan 2016	#5
why is it good?	tk2kewl	Jan 2016	#12
Because PUMA?	demmiblue	Jan 2016	#17
Because Hillary Is The Perfect Queen of All She Surveys and Bernie is a peasant w/a pitchfork.	Green Forest	Jan 2016	#24
Hey, I Got The Picthfork	scottie55	Jan 2016	#63
I have a pitchfork, too!!	Delmette	Jan 2016	#113
BECAUSE HE DARED TO RUN AGAINST HER, AND IT IS HER TURN DAMMIT	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#21
Oh yeah......basically. She's not amused.	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2016	#32
Stay classy.	Green Forest	Jan 2016	#20
It's a trait you love about, her being rude? Nt	Logical	Jan 2016	#22
Careful! Hillary Is Not To Be Criticized Because She Is Perfection In A Pantsuit.	Green Forest	Jan 2016	#27
Why would you encourage your candidate to act unprofessionally and discourteously?	passiveporcupine	Jan 2016	#70
courtesy and compassion	Marty McGraw	Jan 2016	#88
Agreed... Hillary Reay IS Full of Herself and IS Miserable To Her Colleagues.	CorporatistNation	Jan 2016	#134
Added to the list! How have I missed doing so before? I don't play with nasties. nt	stillwaiting	Jan 2016	#99
Good	cui bono	Jan 2016	#117
The truth hurts. n/t	Skwmom	Jan 2016	#6
arrogance...n/t	tokenlib	Jan 2016	#8
Really?	earthside	Jan 2016	#9
It was cringeworthy nt	FlatBaroque	Jan 2016	#10
Sore loser.	in_cog_ni_to	Jan 2016	#11
And now it gets real........ And ugly. Damned shame...	7wo7rees	Jan 2016	#13
Sympathy visegrip, sympathy.	pa28	Jan 2016	#14
The seven emotional stages of grief	wilsonbooks	Jan 2016	#18
Everything right?	tazkcmo	Jan 2016	#28
That's exactly what I meant by "everything right".	pa28	Jan 2016	#39
ok, sorry.	tazkcmo	Jan 2016	#41
Nah, just my sidways sense of humor.	pa28	Jan 2016	#51
I'll quibble with the "did every thing right" part.	Fawke Em	Jan 2016	#56
My thoughts exactly, and throw in some shady, stinky, shadowy things to complete it.	libdem4life	Jan 2016	#130
No worries. ...Bernie won that debate and she knows it	nc4bo	Jan 2016	#15
He did win it	Rosa Luxemburg	Jan 2016	#59
Maybe she had to pee?	gwheezie	Jan 2016	#16
LOL, good one! Nt	Logical	Jan 2016	#23
+1	firebrand80	Jan 2016	#101
And of course you are aware of the significance of the hand shake	greiner3	Jan 2016	#110
Bernie will be fine	gwheezie	Jan 2016	#112
No one is worried about Bernie being fine, we know he's awesome.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#118
Dang, went to pee and missed it. Oh well, Trevor Noah will have it on TDS tomorrow night, so... nt	ChisolmTrailDem	Jan 2016	#19
I don't think that means anything.	JRLeft	Jan 2016	#25
Was her nose out of joint? n/t	left-of-center2012	Jan 2016	#26
Not very presidential. n/t	Skwmom	Jan 2016	#30
She's special.	jalan48	Jan 2016	#31
I missed that	navarth	Jan 2016	#33
He's my second choice. Maybe a good VP?	Duval	Jan 2016	#123
True colors?	polichick	Jan 2016	#34
Does anyone of video of these last moments?	zentrum	Jan 2016	#35
MSNBC is showing it again, don't know if they'll continue it after, showing them standing around	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#37
Thanks. Tried to	zentrum	Jan 2016	#45
Here it is...	Ino	Jan 2016	#92
thanks	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#97
Tried to find the	zentrum	Jan 2016	#108
here	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#115
dammit	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#116
No worries, restorefreedom!	Duval	Jan 2016	#124
:)	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#128
Thanks so much!	zentrum	Jan 2016	#127
most welcome...yeah, it was pretty ugly. nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#129
Did she even see him or know his supposed intentions?	ecstatic	Jan 2016	#36
Customary to shake hands, say whatever, always. Only the Hillary Bernie one did not take place.	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#43
Don't bother	Beaverhausen	Jan 2016	#44
Just her actions. nt	artislife	Jan 2016	#138
Here's some on-line polls	zentrum	Jan 2016	#38
Good GOD! Lookit those numbers!	Plucketeer	Jan 2016	#54
I hope some Hillary supporters get the internet, mice, time, and fingers, because these aren't just	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#64
Time poll: BS 87%; HC 10%; MOM 3%.	tblue37	Jan 2016	#57
Wow!! And it will only get better for Sanders.	Duval	Jan 2016	#125
The big joke is that for every one of those, a person can vote as many times as one wants....	George II	Jan 2016	#62
You know, that's funny	Iwillnevergiveup	Jan 2016	#67
Turns out the big joke wasn't what someone thought it was after all!	cui bono	Jan 2016	#119
So, you admit to trying to skew the online the voting process? Interesting. nt	TheBlackAdder	Jan 2016	#75
You've heard of cookies	zentrum	Jan 2016	#77
I suppose one	Marty McGraw	Jan 2016	#90
Um, none allow more than one vote	Lorien	Jan 2016	#80
I didn't catch that, BUT I liked that NBC announced that Bernie was the "winner" in the	FailureToCommunicate	Jan 2016	#42
^^^THIS^^^	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#46
yes women must always wait for men before they can leave a room	dsc	Jan 2016	#47
LOL	SunSeeker	Jan 2016	#73
The entire Hillary for President 2016 campaign wrapped up in one post on DU	FlatBaroque	Jan 2016	#100
No shit. It's pitiful.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2016	#109
Maybe if he didn't keep interrupting her and O'Malley she might have been more receptive....	George II	Jan 2016	#49
BBC declared HRC "the winner"	Hulk	Jan 2016	#50
More corporate media ....	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#52
That's all it is.	Hulk	Jan 2016	#53
Exactly.	Nictuku	Jan 2016	#81
BBC is "corporate media"?	George II	Jan 2016	#103
The British Broadcasting corporation?	Rosa Luxemburg	Jan 2016	#58
When they show you who they are, believe them. n/t	countmyvote4real	Jan 2016	#60
+1	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#66
Hillary Clinton is a loathsome human being.	Still In Wisconsin	Jan 2016	#61
Did you forget that this is a Democratic site?	Beacool	Jan 2016	#71
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2016	#78
LOL	haikugal	Jan 2016	#86
This message was self-deleted by its author	Douglas Carpenter	Jan 2016	#79
I'm a registered Democrat, and I, too, find Hillary Clinton to be a loathsome human being. The two	Gene Debs	Jan 2016	#82
Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.	bananas	Jan 2016	#84
Strange .	TheFarS1de	Jan 2016	#91
It just looked bad.	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#65
I agree. It was very conspicuous and poor form.	DFW	Jan 2016	#68
Thought she could insult him on the downlow?	Divernan	Jan 2016	#94
Hard to imagine. She is pretty media-savvy by now	DFW	Jan 2016	#104
Maybe there'll be video	Kall	Jan 2016	#69
Exactly...	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#72
I hope IA, NH, NV and SC voters drive her out	KingCharlemagne	Jan 2016	#74
I saw it, and it made my innards cringe	Mira	Jan 2016	#76
Exactly, I wanted to see the exchange, so I waited and watched. She knew he was right there waiting	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#83
She's An Embarrassment	billhicks76	Jan 2016	#85
Shockingly immature behavior.	senz	Jan 2016	#89
What tales the Secret Service could tell, but for those confidentiality oaths.	Divernan	Jan 2016	#93
Yes, but it will subside once the primaries are over.	JTFrog	Jan 2016	#95
alternate footage?	toshiba783	Jan 2016	#96
Where is video posted?	complain jane	Jan 2016	#98
video	toshiba783	Jan 2016	#122
Well she definitely ignored him but whether or not it was intentional	complain jane	Jan 2016	#140
I think we have to cut Hillary some slack.	Vinca	Jan 2016	#102
Yoda's comments fit your OP.....	riversedge	Jan 2016	#105
Unhinged? This is an observation of a clear snub in protocol, and it looked bad.	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#106
An observation made only by her haters.	JTFrog	Jan 2016	#107
Why do you call me a 'hater'? I hate NO ONE in this world. You are a blog hack.	ViseGrip	Jan 2016	#121
Well, ViseGrip, you might appreciate this:	chervilant	Jan 2016	#132
Flawlessly?	chervilant	Jan 2016	#133
How unsportsperson like.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2016	#111
Her majesty was displeased	farleftlib	Jan 2016	#114
It's the kind of thing you expect ...	GeorgeGist	Jan 2016	#120
Yet another WTF!!!! n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2016	#126
Would that she would turn and walk completely away.	GoneOffShore	Jan 2016	#131
You have not posted a video. Where is your evidence??	riversedge	Jan 2016	#135
The queen doesn't shake hands with minions.	Nedsdag	Jan 2016	#136
sadly that's the same angle her supporters will see of her if she is electec	2pooped2pop	Jan 2016	#137
Million$ and million$ and still no class.	99Forever	Jan 2016	#141

Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:01 AM

fleur-de-lisa (14,564 posts)

1. Yes, she looked petty for doing that. eom

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 08:06 PM

hopemountain (3,919 posts)

139. yes. one has to be careful of how one treats an

opponent because the manner and attitude can work in favor of the opponent - as pointed out by david axelrod during his summary at the end of the cnn debate redux program.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:01 AM

bigdarryl (13,190 posts)

2. What

The fuck!!

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:01 AM

FlatBaroque (3,160 posts)

3. No class whatsoever. Money cannot buy class.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:03 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

7. bad sportsmanship for sure

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:33 AM

CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)

29. That Is Just Hillary Being Hillary.. That IS WHO She IS!!!

There should be no surprise here. Hillary is PISSED!!! Because she got "caught" lying on several occasions principally about her absurd criticisms from the RIGHT about Bernie's Health Care plan, guns, and lying about Wall Street. She got exposed and she IS PISSED!!!!

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #29)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:54 AM

hifiguy (33,688 posts)

40. Thread winner.

That's exactly who snd what she is.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #29)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:09 AM

kristopher (29,798 posts)

87. She looked like she was going to explode when the speaking fees were brought out.

I'd love to know how many time "hillary speaking fees" was googled.

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Response to FlatBaroque (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:05 AM

MissDeeds (7,499 posts)

48. Yep

But she is entitled. Besides, her private jet was probably waiting for her.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:14 AM

CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)

55. Money Has Exacerbated Her Lack of Character!

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:02 AM

azmom (5,208 posts)

4. Classless

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:03 AM

DURHAM D (32,388 posts)

5. Good

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:05 AM

tk2kewl (18,133 posts)

12. why is it good?

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:09 AM

demmiblue (36,198 posts)

17. Because PUMA?

I can't think of any other reason why one would condone rude behavior.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:27 AM

Green Forest (232 posts)

24. Because Hillary Is The Perfect Queen of All She Surveys and Bernie is a peasant w/a pitchfork.

Good.

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Response to Green Forest (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:34 AM

scottie55 (1,400 posts)

63. Hey, I Got The Picthfork

See....

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Response to scottie55 (Reply #63)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:46 PM

Delmette (522 posts)

113. I have a pitchfork, too!!

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:25 AM

Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)

21. BECAUSE HE DARED TO RUN AGAINST HER, AND IT IS HER TURN DAMMIT

...basically.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:39 AM

SammyWinstonJack (44,111 posts)

32. Oh yeah......basically. She's not amused.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:25 AM

Green Forest (232 posts)

20. Stay classy.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:26 AM

Logical (22,457 posts)

22. It's a trait you love about, her being rude? Nt

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:30 AM

Green Forest (232 posts)

27. Careful! Hillary Is Not To Be Criticized Because She Is Perfection In A Pantsuit.

Really.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:48 AM

passiveporcupine (8,175 posts)

70. Why would you encourage your candidate to act unprofessionally and discourteously?

Did you like Obama? Could you even imagine him ever acting this way?

All through the debate she was glaring and rude, especially to Bernie, whiile O'Malley and Bernie were polite (even when disputing her) in voice and manner.

She can be an asshole at times (which you clearly seem to enjoy) and that's why so many people really don't want to see her in the white house. We want people with courtesy and compassion, like Obama and Bernie. She says she can get people to work together? When she treats them like that? Nope! She is not a uniter. she is power hungry and thinks she can force her will on people. She hates it when people stand up to her like Bernie did tonight.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #70)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:12 AM

Marty McGraw (1,024 posts)

88. courtesy and compassion

where necessitates. Sometime though a little of standing somebody up to the wall LBJ style couldn't hurt.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #70)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:05 PM

CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)

134. Agreed... Hillary Reay IS Full of Herself and IS Miserable To Her Colleagues.

How can someone bring people together when she acts like a 14 year old high school girl. Further evidence denoting her less than adequate character as a person much less a President! K and R!

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:11 AM

stillwaiting (3,795 posts)

99. Added to the list! How have I missed doing so before? I don't play with nasties. nt

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:01 PM

cui bono (19,926 posts)

117. Good

that she will not be president and able to behave so rudely and classlessly with foreign leaders. Wonder if she did/had done that as SOS?

.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:03 AM

Skwmom (12,685 posts)

6. The truth hurts. n/t

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:03 AM

tokenlib (4,186 posts)

8. arrogance...n/t

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:03 AM

earthside (6,960 posts)

9. Really?

I had to go tend to some business and missed the very end.

Well, that demonstrates that Hillary knows that Sen. Sanders clearly won this debate.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:04 AM

FlatBaroque (3,160 posts)

10. It was cringeworthy nt

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:05 AM

in_cog_ni_to (41,600 posts)

11. Sore loser.

I cannot wait until February 1st. He's going to win in a landslide....then she'll have a reason to pout.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:05 AM

7wo7rees (5,128 posts)

13. And now it gets real........ And ugly. Damned shame...

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:05 AM

pa28 (6,145 posts)

14. Sympathy visegrip, sympathy.

Losing your nomination twice in a row when you did everything right and followed all the rules has got to be tough.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:16 AM

wilsonbooks (972 posts)

18. The seven emotional stages of grief

The seven emotional stages of grief are usually understood to be shock or disbelief, denial, bargaining, guilt, anger, depression, and acceptance/hope. Symptoms of grief can be emotional, physical, social, or religious in nature.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:31 AM

tazkcmo (7,148 posts)

28. Everything right?

That's not what I saw. I saw lots of lies, "evolving" and 3rd Way/DLC policies.

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #28)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:53 AM

pa28 (6,145 posts)

39. That's exactly what I meant by "everything right".

Unfortunately for her it's not "right" this year.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #39)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:54 AM

tazkcmo (7,148 posts)

41. ok, sorry.

Misunderstood. I'm a little slow at times...

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:07 AM

pa28 (6,145 posts)

51. Nah, just my sidways sense of humor.

This was a good night for Bernie.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:15 AM

Fawke Em (11,366 posts)

56. I'll quibble with the "did every thing right" part.

Unless you mean, "TO the right."

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #56)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:38 PM

libdem4life (13,877 posts)

130. My thoughts exactly, and throw in some shady, stinky, shadowy things to complete it.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:06 AM

nc4bo (17,651 posts)

15. No worries. ...Bernie won that debate and she knows it

And HRH is not amused.

#Feelinberned

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:18 AM

Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)

59. He did win it

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:08 AM

gwheezie (3,580 posts)

16. Maybe she had to pee?

Seriously what is wrong with some of you? I saw her and Bernie during one of the breaks walk over to him smiling and put her hand out to him.
They looked pretty cordial to me.

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:26 AM

Logical (22,457 posts)

23. LOL, good one! Nt

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:14 AM

firebrand80 (2,760 posts)

101. +1

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:09 PM

greiner3 (5,214 posts)

110. And of course you are aware of the significance of the hand shake

In olden times shaking with the right hand (a right handed man takes just that longer to stick a knife into you so an empty hand signifies that person will not stab you at least until your back is turned. BTW she may have been "cordial"to that moment but after he trounced her and 'wounded' her she offered no promises to the stabbing in the future.

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Response to greiner3 (Reply #110)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:15 PM

gwheezie (3,580 posts)

112. Bernie will be fine

I think ya'll are reading too much into this.

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #112)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:04 PM

cui bono (19,926 posts)

118. No one is worried about Bernie being fine, we know he's awesome.

This is about Hillary being exceptionally rude and unprofessional.

.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:18 AM

ChisolmTrailDem (9,463 posts)

19. Dang, went to pee and missed it. Oh well, Trevor Noah will have it on TDS tomorrow night, so... nt

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:28 AM

JRLeft (7,010 posts)

25. I don't think that means anything.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:29 AM

left-of-center2012 (34,195 posts)

26. Was her nose out of joint? n/t

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:34 AM

Skwmom (12,685 posts)

30. Not very presidential. n/t

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:38 AM

jalan48 (13,692 posts)

31. She's special.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:45 AM

navarth (5,927 posts)

33. I missed that

but I agree it was a really, really good debate for Bernie.

Any one of these three would be better than the Reptilians. Obviously I prefer Bernie. I also felt that my second choice, Martin O'Malley, really made a dent tonight. And he sure was patient with the way Lester and Mrs. Greenspan ignored him.

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Response to navarth (Reply #33)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:08 PM

Duval (4,280 posts)

123. He's my second choice. Maybe a good VP?

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:46 AM

polichick (37,151 posts)

34. True colors?

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:48 AM

zentrum (9,865 posts)

35. Does anyone of video of these last moments?

I've looked and can't find it.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #35)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:51 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

37. MSNBC is showing it again, don't know if they'll continue it after, showing them standing around

talking. I can't help out because I cut my cord.

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:56 AM

zentrum (9,865 posts)

45. Thanks. Tried to

…..find the end part but can't get it to come up. Thanx anyway.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #35)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:55 AM

Ino (3,366 posts)

92. Here it is...

Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Go to 30 seconds in
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2016/01/18/did-hillary-avoid-shaking-hands-bernie-after-democrat-debate

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Response to Ino (Reply #92)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:07 AM

restorefreedom (12,655 posts)

97. thanks

wow. entitled and pissed off. if i say any more i will get a hide.

no doubt that was a snub. she even looked at him.

wow.

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #97)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:33 PM

zentrum (9,865 posts)

108. Tried to find the

…..moment in this video and all I saw on screen at the end was Chuck, Alan Greenspan's wife, and DWS. Do you have a sense of the minute marks this snub occurred in?

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Response to zentrum (Reply #108)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:07 PM

restorefreedom (12,655 posts)

115. here

comment #35 is the video. the commenter gave the mark..inhink around 2.50 something its in the comment thhough with the video

it goes back to the candidates after todd talks

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Response to zentrum (Reply #108)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:07 PM

restorefreedom (12,655 posts)

116. dammit

Last edited Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

forgot the link

2.50.20 mark

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511023169

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #116)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:13 PM

Duval (4,280 posts)

124. No worries, restorefreedom!

I'm glad no one here can see the dumb mistakes I make on my iPhone! We all do it!!

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Response to Duval (Reply #124)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:37 PM

restorefreedom (12,655 posts)

128. :)

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #116)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:35 PM

zentrum (9,865 posts)

127. Thanks so much!

Very helpful!

Now that I've seen it——it does look like it was a deliberate snub and he knew it too. Unpleasant.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #127)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:37 PM

restorefreedom (12,655 posts)

129. most welcome...yeah, it was pretty ugly. nt

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:50 AM

ecstatic (31,798 posts)

36. Did she even see him or know his supposed intentions?

You're assuming he was waiting for her, and assuming she purposely snubbed him. Let's not jump to conclusions!

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:55 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

43. Customary to shake hands, say whatever, always. Only the Hillary Bernie one did not take place.

He was standing there waiting for her to finish, she of course knows the etiquette. This really shows you who she is. Along with being a mother who sent her daughter out to lie. She lied about that again tonight as well, along with saying she is now for 'single payer'. Did you hear that? Anyone catch that?

Hillary is now for single payer? She needs to be asked about this answer that she gave.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:55 AM

Beaverhausen (24,420 posts)

44. Don't bother

They'll use anything they can against her.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #44)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:39 PM

artislife (9,497 posts)

138. Just her actions. nt

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:51 AM

zentrum (9,865 posts)

38. Here's some on-line polls

…for who won tonight.

http://time.com/4183949/democratic-debate-fourth-charleston-poll-survey/

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/01/17/poll-who-won-the-4th-democratic-debate/

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/01/who_won_the_democratic_presidential_debate_vote_in_our_poll.html

http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/01/poll_who_won_sundays_democratic_2016_presidential_debate.html

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Response to zentrum (Reply #38)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:12 AM

Plucketeer (12,882 posts)

54. Good GOD! Lookit those numbers!

Those DAMNED Bernie folks - voting and voting and voting and voting and..... Hope they vote like that in IA and NH !!!! And of course, the HRC faithful would NEVER vote more than once. Nooooooooooooooooooooo.....

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #54)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:35 AM

Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)

64. I hope some Hillary supporters get the internet, mice, time, and fingers, because these aren't just

for Bernie supporters to participate in.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #38)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:16 AM

tblue37 (61,983 posts)

57. Time poll: BS 87%; HC 10%; MOM 3%.

Slate poll: BS 85%; HC 12%; MOM 2%.

2nd link poll: BS 94.59%; HC 3.89%; MOM 1.52%

4th link poll: BS 94.35%; HC 3.81%; MOM 1.84%

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #57)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:24 PM

Duval (4,280 posts)

125. Wow!! And it will only get better for Sanders.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #38)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:21 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

62. The big joke is that for every one of those, a person can vote as many times as one wants....

....this isn't Chicago.

BTW, I voted 10 times for Clinton and then got tired and realized that it was idiotic to continue.

Note: how many of those "polls" said they were unscientific?

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Response to George II (Reply #62)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:40 AM

Iwillnevergiveup (9,298 posts)

67. You know, that's funny

because I tried voting for Bernie twice on the Time poll. It was at 71,645 after I voted once and remained at that number afterward.

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Response to Iwillnevergiveup (Reply #67)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:08 PM

cui bono (19,926 posts)

119. Turns out the big joke wasn't what someone thought it was after all!

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Response to George II (Reply #62)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:04 AM

TheBlackAdder (27,386 posts)

75. So, you admit to trying to skew the online the voting process? Interesting. nt

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Response to George II (Reply #62)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:06 AM

zentrum (9,865 posts)

77. You've heard of cookies

….haven't you?

Just because it looks like you can log out and in and "vote" again, and the screen lets you do that—doesn't mean your repeat votes are actually counted—because of cookies.

They recognize you and your vote and don't count it over and over again.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #77)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:19 AM

Marty McGraw (1,024 posts)

90. I suppose one

can tell their browser to gobble all them cookies if it has been behaving the way it should.

but I highly doubt this was the case for the majority of the surveyed.

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Response to George II (Reply #62)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:11 AM

Lorien (31,935 posts)

80. Um, none allow more than one vote

try it for yourself!

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:55 AM

FailureToCommunicate (13,656 posts)

42. I didn't catch that, BUT I liked that NBC announced that Bernie was the "winner" in the

view of their political commentator immediately afterward.

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:57 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

46. ^^^THIS^^^

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:58 AM

dsc (51,932 posts)

47. yes women must always wait for men before they can leave a room

how dare she forget that.

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Response to dsc (Reply #47)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:03 AM

SunSeeker (50,354 posts)

73. LOL

Ridiculous isn't it?

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Response to dsc (Reply #47)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:14 AM

FlatBaroque (3,160 posts)

100. The entire Hillary for President 2016 campaign wrapped up in one post on DU

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Response to FlatBaroque (Reply #100)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:45 PM

DisgustipatedinCA (12,530 posts)

109. No shit. It's pitiful.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:05 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

49. Maybe if he didn't keep interrupting her and O'Malley she might have been more receptive....

....but bottom line she was 10X more polite to him than he was to her.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:05 AM

Hulk (6,699 posts)

50. BBC declared HRC "the winner"

I guess I missed something. I wasn't impressed by her desperation and her feigning anger and domination with her answers. Shawdy.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #50)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:08 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

52. More corporate media ....

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #52)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:11 AM

Hulk (6,699 posts)

53. That's all it is.

That's why I switched over to fox (get it piped in with cable down here in central Mexico.). I can't stand to listen to chuckie, ms greenspan, or any of the other corporate whores tell me what I should think.

I expect propaganda bull shit from fox. Never disappointed.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #53)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:16 AM

Nictuku (3,319 posts)

81. Exactly.

[link:

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #52)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:23 AM

George II (67,782 posts)

103. BBC is "corporate media"?

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Response to Hulk (Reply #50)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:17 AM

Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)

58. The British Broadcasting corporation?

Tory influenced

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:18 AM

countmyvote4real (4,023 posts)

60. When they show you who they are, believe them. n/t

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Response to countmyvote4real (Reply #60)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:37 AM

Ed Suspicious (8,879 posts)

66. +1

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:19 AM

Still In Wisconsin (4,450 posts)

61. Hillary Clinton is a loathsome human being.

That is all.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #61)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:59 AM

Beacool (30,215 posts)

71. Did you forget that this is a Democratic site?

The nonsense one reads here is astounding........

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:42 AM

haikugal (6,476 posts)

86. LOL

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:17 AM

Gene Debs (582 posts)

82. I'm a registered Democrat, and I, too, find Hillary Clinton to be a loathsome human being. The two

aren't mutually exclusive.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:30 AM

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Response to bananas (Reply #84)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:08 AM

TheFarS1de (1,017 posts)

91. Strange .

Do they allow multiple reports ?

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:36 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

65. It just looked bad.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:44 AM

DFW (52,321 posts)

68. I agree. It was very conspicuous and poor form.

I wonder what was behind that?

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Response to DFW (Reply #68)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:12 AM

Divernan (15,480 posts)

94. Thought she could insult him on the downlow?

Hillary has remained unable to grasp the reality/possibility of being videotaped just about anywhere.

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Response to Divernan (Reply #94)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:58 AM

DFW (52,321 posts)

104. Hard to imagine. She is pretty media-savvy by now

Maybe something happened during a break backstage? They seemed cordial in the middle. I'll bet something was said that none of us know about.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:46 AM

Kall (615 posts)

69. Maybe there'll be video

Although I will say it wouldn't surprise me, even though perceptions can be different. People aren't supposed to get in her way.

If she was upset about being called out about her and Chelsea's coordinated lies about Bernie's health care plan, I have no sympathy for her. She shouldn't have made them.

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Response to Kall (Reply #69)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:01 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

72. Exactly...

I look at the debate reports tonight, and it's clear they're pissed off about something. Hillary lying for a week or the real support for Sanders, that will bulldoze the media in IA and NH?

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:04 AM

KingCharlemagne (7,908 posts)

74. I hope IA, NH, NV and SC voters drive her out

of the race for that impertinence.

Ugh, just ugh.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:04 AM

Mira (22,359 posts)

76. I saw it, and it made my innards cringe

What makes me sad and wary is that for reasons I don't fully understand I can read and see and hear the thinly veiled thread of what is underlying Mrs. Clinton's words, demeanor and smiles. Unfortunately what I am picking up is mostly a tremendous desire to be President, and it is not really for the right reasons. It to me is almost as if she is putting on being a politician I mistrust as if she were applying make up. I see her fear of losing, and again it's not for reasons that serve the country.
And I specifically saw her dislike of Mr. Sanders and her realization that he bested her in honesty and charisma when she disregarded him callously at the end.

I will vote for Mrs. Clinton, if it comes to that. But first I will vote for Bernie with great hope.

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Response to Mira (Reply #76)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:21 AM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

83. Exactly, I wanted to see the exchange, so I waited and watched. She knew he was right there waiting

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:36 AM

billhicks76 (5,082 posts)

85. She's An Embarrassment

And her attacks make her just look more vile.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:12 AM

senz (11,945 posts)

89. Shockingly immature behavior.

Lately I've been wondering what home life was like for the family.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:07 AM

Divernan (15,480 posts)

93. What tales the Secret Service could tell, but for those confidentiality oaths.

I realize they'd lose their government jobs/pensions if they spoke out, but I hope they are each keeping diaries and writing personal memoirs to be released after their deaths.

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Response to senz (Reply #89)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:16 AM

JTFrog (14,274 posts)

95. Yes, but it will subside once the primaries are over.

Manufacturing outrage over things like handshake-gate or bathroom-gate is indeed incredibly immature. DU used to be better than this.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:32 AM

toshiba783 (74 posts)

96. alternate footage?

The video posted flips back and forth between Todd and the candidates - you do realize it's very possible, and likely, that Bernie and Hillary shook hands BEFORE walking from behind the podiums to meet with the moderators? In fact, Bernie doesn't even appear to be waiting for Hillary, rather waiting to shake hands with Andrea AFTER Hillary.

Do you actually have evidence to corroborate this attack or is it based off of assumptions?

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Response to toshiba783 (Reply #96)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:22 AM

complain jane (4,302 posts)

98. Where is video posted?

I'm interested in seeing too...

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Response to complain jane (Reply #98)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:44 PM

toshiba783 (74 posts)

122. video

Around 2:50 - there is no evidence of Hillary "snubbing" Bernie. It's really odd to see over a hundred responses cheering for something that is based completely on illogical assumptions:

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Response to toshiba783 (Reply #122)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:29 PM

complain jane (4,302 posts)

140. Well she definitely ignored him but whether or not it was intentional

is anybody's guess.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 09:17 AM

Vinca (49,749 posts)

102. I think we have to cut Hillary some slack.

She was the anointed one who had already been fitted for the crown and I'm sure she's in a state of shock half the time.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:00 AM

riversedge (67,570 posts)

105. Yoda's comments fit your OP.....

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Response to riversedge (Reply #105)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:08 PM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

106. Unhinged? This is an observation of a clear snub in protocol, and it looked bad.

Some on Hillary's team didn't like it either. They hoped no one really noticed, as the debate was over. I want people to notice, the type of character she is and the rest of the family.

See 'parents send out daughter to lie'.

Bernie went to her after O'Malley, and after Hillary shook O'Malley's hand and began talking to someone else. Bernie stood there and waited for her to finish her conversation, to shake her hand. She clearly turned away, knowing he was there, waiting. Many here saw it too.
It speaks to a type of nastiness, and the people are fed up. Another negative action by Hillary.

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #106)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:27 PM

JTFrog (14,274 posts)

107. An observation made only by her haters.

Haters are going to hate no matter what. They will make up handshake-gate and bathroom-gate and even try to blame Hillary herself for another campaign trying to steal her campaign data.

Yet she handles it all flawlessly.

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Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:38 PM

ViseGrip (3,133 posts)

121. Why do you call me a 'hater'? I hate NO ONE in this world. You are a blog hack.

I'm for free speech. Your only answer to this snub that many saw is that I'm a hater?

You're a hater based on your ugly words. Not mine.

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