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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:11 PM Jan 2016

And Clinton is called the Triangulator. lol.

Commodity Futures Modernization Act - Didn't read it, someone else's fault, he was tricked.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-wall-street_5617f634e4b0dbb8000e5a58

Iraq Liberation Act - So what if he built public support for war with Iraq, he eventually voted against it. Don't look at the fact he helped pave the way to huge public support. No, look the other way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

Paul and his Tea Party promised "Audit the Fed" dream. Ohhh. Sanders vote there was great. Ignore Krugman, Warren, Obama, and the rest of the Democratic Party and progressive voices. Sanders has literally joined forces with the Tea Party here. Triangulate all you want.

Voting against a pathway to citizenship over and over again. What? He was really just against the visa aspect? So, as he helped conservatives block a pathway to citizenship, what did he get in return? He got some kind of promise from them for blocking human rights to over ten million people. Right?



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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. I am sure most of them do. All good.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jan 2016

I will say I don't think I have ever called them any names at all. Not once.

I have more ops highlighting things like these items on the way. I just recently found out that some of the things Sanders supporters have been calling "youthful indiscretions" were actually things he either wrote or did in his late twenties into his thirties. Youthful. lol.

Ex:

When did Sanders first start voting?
What were/are his thoughts on women, sexuality, cancer?
Why was he fighting for Tea Party legislation just this past week?
What about Sanders early relationships? Seems he opened the door with this one by going after Bill.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
11. Jury results
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jan 2016

FWIW, I was #7

On Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:18 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

the bernbots must have you on ignore
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1025985

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This is the kind of juvenile name-calling that is wrecking DU. It's time for juries to bring at least a minimal level of civility and smarts back to this place.

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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
14. Thanks to everyone who said leave it alone, I am tired of the alerts. Grow a fuckin spine!
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jan 2016

Autumn

(48,961 posts)
5. Did you even read that first link beyond the headline?
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jan 2016
When Sanders voted for the House version of the CFMA in October 2000, the bill was not yet a total debacle for Wall Street accountability advocates.]The legislative text Sanders supported was clearly designed to curtail regulatory oversight. The GOP-authored bill was crafted as a response to a proposal from ex-Commodity Futures Trading Commission Chair Brooksley Born to ramp up oversight of derivatives. But the version Sanders initially voted for was more benign than the final, Gramm-authored version, and it didn't draw any of the protests that the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall did. In October 2000, the bill passed the House by a vote of 377 to 4 (51 members didn't vote), and then sat on the shelf for weeks.


And here's the gem in your OP

But in December, Gramm -- after coordinating with top Clinton administration officials -- added much harder-edged deregulatory language to the bill, then attached the entire package to a must-pass 11,000-page bill funding the entire federal government. After Gramm's workshopping, the legislation included new language saying the federal government "shall not exercise regulatory authority with respect to, a covered swap agreement offered, entered into, or provided by a bank." That ended all government oversight of derivatives purchased or traded by banks. He also created the so-called "Enron Loophole," which barred federal oversight of energy trading on electronic platforms


This was an era in which voting against funding the federal government was considered a major governance faux pas. The bill sailed through both chambers of Congress, with few lawmakers even aware of the major new deregulatory changes.


You tricked yourself
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. See, you are doing exactly what I stated. Triangulating.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders sure did vote on the final version of the bill.

Eric J in MN

(35,639 posts)
8. The CFMA was added to the omnibus budget bill after Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX) ruined it.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jan 2016

There was no House vote on the final version of the CFMA by itself.

Autumn

(48,961 posts)
10. That's not in doubt, yes he did. And your link nicely clears up the mistake he made on that
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

bill that Bill Clinton, Hillary's husband wanted so badly. Like many of us Bernie Sanders made a mistake in trusting a democratic president. Thanks for posting that article.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
13. THIS IS ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT. THE BILL DID NOT GO BACK TO THE HOUSE.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jan 2016

You need to edit or delete.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
6. Little by little, I'm losing my faith in Bernie's credibility.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jan 2016

I've been a Hillary supporter from day one, but I have always thought Bernie was better than this.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
12. This is another dishonest post. The CFMA passed 377-4. It was pushed through by Bill Clinton.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

A total of four people, including Ron Paul, voted Nay. A total of three hundred seventy seven people voted Yea.

Dishonest posts will be met at every turn.

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