Clinton is politicizing the Flint water crisis...listen to Sen. Baldwin on Hardball.

[Punkingal]

I think it is disgusting that the Clinton campaign is making a concerted effort to exploit this crisis and make it appear SHE is the reason something was finally done.


http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/who-came-out-ahead-in-democratic-debate-604024387564

[leftofcool]

1. I think it is wonderful that something is finally getting done.

When Hillary talks, people listen so deal with it.

[Punkingal]

3. She is completely cynical and without any ethics.

There is nothing she wouldn't exploit to win a vote. Disgusting.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I think I will defer to Michael Moore on this:

THANK YOU HILLARY!!!!!!!! FLINT THANKS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY YOU MENTIONED IT!!!! AND U SPOKE THE TRUTH! BIGGEST APPLAUSE OF THE NIGHT!


https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/688931917366824961

Always respectfully,
DSB

[Punkingal]

9. She is exploiting a tragedy. It's that simple, and that cynical.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Please see Post 16.

Thank you in advance.




Always respectfully,
DSB

[riversedge]

21. You are dead wrong. Hillary does not want the kids to die or be sick. Simple as that.

[Punkingal]

26. No one said that...I said she is exploiting a tragedy.

[leftofcool]

59. And that is pure horse shit!

[Punkingal]

66. Why in the hell does she have surrogates talking about what a great thing she did?

To exploit it politically that's why. As you said to me earlier, deal with it.

[randome]

89. Maybe they're talking about it because they want to. Not everything is a conspiracy, you know.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

[Punkingal]

90. Maybe they could talk about permanently damaged children instead of how fabulous Hillary was.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

95. A tragedy - caused by republicans & a consequence of far right ideology -THIS IS HOW

POLITICS WORKS.

[cui bono]

11. Cherry picking that one comment about Hillary from him is kind of proving the point of the OP.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I don't begrudge anybody speaking out against the poisoning of poor folks...

I don't begrudge anybody speaking out against the poisoning of poor folks, the lion's share of whom are black.





Always respectfully,
DSB

[Punkingal]

20. As usual, you are deliberately pretending not to understand. It isn't clever or cute.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I understand it fully well , just as I understand you are

As usual, you are deliberately pretending not to understand. It isn't clever or cute.

-Punkingal

I understand it fully well , just as I understand you are demeaning, demonizing, dehumanizing, and denigrating me right now but I will take the high road and refuse to respond in kind because love is stronger than hate.



Respectfully,
DSB

[Punkingal]

31. I think the inference that I begrudge someone speaking against people being poisoned is demeaning.

That is not what I said, nor what I feel. Exploiting the effort is what I think is wrong. Having surrogates go on television and talk about how great it was that you said something and how that took care of the problem.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. I must respectfully dissent from your assessment.

Hillary is shining a light on a problem. I say good for her.










Respectfully,
DSB

[Kentonio]

38. Drama much?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. We should be kinder to one another

Respectfully and lovingly,
DSB

[Kentonio]

40. I don't disagree

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. What the world needs now is love

[cui bono]

47. Step 2. Bring race into it... mmkay...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. Flint is 57% African American

Environmental racism is placement of low-income or minority communities in proximity of environmentally hazardous or degraded environments, such as toxic waste, pollution and urban decay.

Always respectfully,
DSB



P.S. Sometimes I think America goes out of its way to mess with the already marginalized. Nothing will ever stop me from standing with them.

[cui bono]

50. And you brought that up now because...

And your little post script is so cute. As if Bernie supporters don't.

It's obvious you are continuing the tired old race talking points. How pathetic.

.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. Well

And you brought that up now because...

And your little post script is so cute. As if Bernie supporters don't.

It's obvious you are continuing the tired old race talking points. How pathetic.

-cui bono

You can continue to degrade, dehumanize, disrespect, and denigrate me all you want and I will continue not to respond in kind. Hate is corrosive. It destroys the container.

Always lovingly and respectfully,
DSB

[cui bono]

54. Yet you continue to make false statements that are passive-aggressive.

And believe that you are so clever by doing so.

.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

56. All I know ...

Yet you continue to make false statements that are passive-aggressive.

And believe that you are so clever by doing so.


cui bono

And you brought that up now because...

And your little post script is so cute. As if Bernie supporters don't.

It's obvious you are continuing the tired old race talking points. How pathetic.

-cui bono

All I know is I have been unfailingly civil to you and you are treating me as if I was vermin. I refuse to respond in kind. I will not hate!!! Love always wins out in the end!!!


With love and respect,
DSB

[840high]

53. He laso thanked Bernie.

[CorporatistNation]

86. As Soon As I Heard Her Open Her BIGGGG Mouth I Knew WHAT She Was Up To!

Clinton INCORPORATED will go to absolutely ANY length to achieve her out-sized personal ambition. She will USE anyone even as we see here... children as her foil to achieve her goal. And she YELLLLLSSSSSS to make her point.

If I did the same thing when I was running for Congress the MSM would call me on it! KICK AND REC!

[MeNMyVolt]

10. Not on this board.

[uponit7771]

12. +1, how people are turning this into a negative is beyond me

[Stuckinthebush]

14. That's what this place has become

A very silly place

[Punkingal]

15. Cynical exploitation of a tragedy is not just negative...it's despicable.

[leftofcool]

60. Translation.....Bernie didn't come out first

[Punkingal]

68. There is no first here...people were poisoned and no one needs to capitalize on that.

[Armstead]

72. Bernie did come out first the day before the debate

He made a statement to highlight the problem, and demanded that the governor resign (which I doubt he will do, but hey).

However, he did not then go out and place it in a "me,me,me" context and pretend he solved the problem.

I think Rachael Maddow and President Obama were the ones that had a real effect.

[roguevalley]

25. hrc only talked when asked. why not before?

[840high]

52. She did nothing.

[pangaia]

2. She wants to be president so bad I don't know how she sleeps at night.

Bernie has her scared shitless.

[FlatBaroque]

4. I wonder if these surrogates understand how much damage they are doing

to themselves.

[Peregrine Took]

5. I used to like Baldwin - no more!!! n/t

[riversedge]

78. I feel sorry for you.

[LannyDeVaney]

7. So you're pro-poison, got it ...

NGDM

[Punkingal]

8. What don't you get about the fact that the water is still poisoned?

And a cynical, lying politician is exploiting a tragedy. Sure, throw a ridiculous insult at me...I love that children were poisoned.

[Punkingal]

69. Wow...off the subject aren't you?

[book_worm]

13. Nuts--where is she saying that it's due to her that anything is being done?

Obama federalized this before the debate.

[Punkingal]

18. Don't you know...Snyder asked for help 2 hours after HRC spoke out.

Therefore it's all because of her.

[jfern]

19. Reminds me of when her supporters decided she got the drug prices back to normal with one tweet

Meanwhile Bernie is the one who did the work to bring these to people's attention first. Her supporters think she has some magic pixie dust in her twitter account.

[roguevalley]

27. she also got wall street fixed with a cut that out. oh wait ...

[jfern]

33. Hillary solves our problems by tweeting whatever problems Bernie finds

[riversedge]

22. Sen. Tammy Baldwin is the most Progressive Senator there is . shame on you for

Knocking down another good Democrat.

[Punkingal]

24. They are exploiting the tragedy of poisoned children. It isn't me who should be ashamed.

[DURHAM D]

32. Do you work for the Governor?

Seems you are real vested in shutting down the discussion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Res ipsa loquitur

Michigan governor says Hillary Clinton is politicizing Flint's water crisis

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-flint-water-crisis-20160118-story.html

[leftofcool]

70. Wow! That is exactly what Governor Poison Snyder said.

He thought Hillary should be ashamed for calling him out too.

[Punkingal]

71. I think he's a piece of shit. He should go to prison.

[HassleCat]

28. As long as something actually gets done

All sorts of people have been going after the governor on this issue, and he finally took some action. I don't know what role Clinton played, and I don't care. Let her have her fun.

[Motown_Johnny]

29. It looks like a General Election move to me.

She could lose Michigan. It is a swing state and if she is the nominee she needs to lock it up early so she can fight over Ohio and Florida (and Virginia, but she has a cronie who is Governor there).

This mess won't be fixed for a long long time, and even then the children will have health problems for their entire lives.

It would be an easy thing to have a big rally in Lansing and pull out some of the sound bites she is creating now to try and lock up Michigan early.

[DFW]

79. Unless Kasich is the Republican nominee

I don't see the Democrats in danger of losing Michigan in the General.

[2pooped2pop]

30. It's as ridiculous as trump claiming the Iranians released the hostages because of him

People just laugh at him and are laughing at her as well. Wonder where she got her magic pixie dust and is she just sprinkling it or does she smoke it too? How absurd she is.

[840high]

58. ...+1

[Empowerer]

34. If Sanders had gotten out ahead of Clinton on this, his supporters would be crowing from rooftops

[Punkingal]

37. Senator Sanders does not exploit tragedies, nor would I crow if he did.

[Empowerer]

44. If Sanders had gotten out ahead of Clinton on this, his supporters wouldn't claim he was exploiting

a tragedy. They would insist it was further proof that he was speaking truth to power, protecting the people, etc. - and they would be crowing from the rooftops about it.

[cui bono]

49. he did.

Bernie Sanders calls on Michigan’s governor to resign over water contamination in Flint

CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders on Saturday called for Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder (R) to resign amid mounting criticism of his administration’s slow response to a crisis over lead contamination in Flint’s drinking water.

“There are no excuses,” Sanders said in the statement. “The governor long ago knew about the lead in Flint's water. He did nothing. As a result, hundreds of children were poisoned. Thousands may have been exposed to potential brain damage from lead."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/16/bernie-sanders-calls-on-michigans-governor-to-resign-over-water-contamination-in-flint/

[Empowerer]

57. So, Sanders is exploiting a tragedy? n/t

[cui bono]

63. Moving the goal posts? Why is that? Can't just admit he said something first?

Plus, he didn't hold out to speak out about it until the politically opportune moment of a nationally televised debate.

.

[senz]

65. He didn't bring it up in the debate; she did

to make herself look good. Hillary did her "big me send best aide" bit to which Bernie, with a look of distaste, replied with the action he had taken.

[Empowerer]

84. LOL

Why don't you and your friends get your story straight. Did he bring it up first or did he not bring it ups first? In two subsequent posts in response to mine, you are completely contradicting each other.

And - big surprise - whichever version you finally settle on (or even if you continue to contradict each other), it's proof of Sanders' perfection and of Clinton's nefariousness.

[senz]

93. LOL

Laughter's healthy; let's have a good laugh together.

I reported it as I recall seeing it.

However this latest fluff turns out, I can assure you that Bernie is not "perfect" -- he's a mere mortal trying to do what needs to be done if this country is to be livable again for all of us, our children, and grandchildren. He cares more about people than about himself. That's a very, very good thing in a politician. Think about it.

[oasis]

36. Hopefully we don't have a national emergency while Hillary is president.

Her detractors will go bonkers if she sends relief to the victims.

"A major flood, so what, Madam President is using it as an opportunity to pander yet again".

[craigmatic]

41. At least it's getting attention.

[hrmjustin]

43. You're just pissed she is on top of it.

Pathetic!

[leftofcool]

64. Extremely pathetic. Don't worry about poisoned children, it's more important to bash Hillary.

[Dem2]

46. I think it's a very good thing that she's doing.

It's the right thing to do.

[merrily]

55. She's been politicizing her granddaughter. Why wouldn't she politicize Flint?

[840high]

61. Anything to get into the White House.

[merrily]

74. Sounds like mi abuela!

[azmom]

67. Hillary is morally bankrupt.

#unidosConBernie

[Sheepshank]

73. And you don't think the tea Bagger Gov isn't playing politics with his constituency?

What a completely disingenious op.

On one hand we have Dem candidates shedding light on a year long poisoning of Flint residents and children with likely lifelong issues. You call this public spanking disgusting?

On the other hand we have the Governor of the State, that allowed his constituency to be poisoned for a year and has done little to nothing to fix the problem...and you apparently don't think that is disgusting?

Tea Bagger governor calls this politically motivated. YOU add to that the word disgusting...who's fucking side are you on?

[Punkingal]

75. I call political exploitation of a tragic situation disgusting.

Rachel Maddow is the one who shed light on the problems in Flint. As for the governor, he is a piece of shit and should go to prison.

[seabeyond]

76. Wow. On a democratic board, attack a person for standing up against poisoned water.

I guess you all feel the same vile ugliness to Sanders too, seeing how consistent supporters are, right? Because Sanders made a comment about kicking the responsible party to the curb.

Only on DU.

[riversedge]

77. RW radio was saying the same today as I drove home Now it shows up on DU. Guess I am

not surprised. But Tammy Baldwin is my Senator--one of the most Progressive people I know. It hurts to see her slammed like this.

[ecstatic]

81. That has to be a troll. What self respecting liberal would focus all their anger

and outrage on someone who is trying to get help for the people of Flint?

[1StrongBlackMan]

92. Well ... There are plenty of folks on this thread ...

doing exactly that.

[oberliner]

97. The Republican governor of Michigan was saying the same thing

I assumed this was a RW talking point against Hillary.

[ecstatic]

80. You should be elated that residents are finally getting help

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That should be your only concern, that is, if you actually care about the ongoing tragedy / criminal negligence. I don't give a damn who gets credit as long as something gets done!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. Please look at the verbal abuse heaped upon me in this thread for deigning to defend her.

Thank you in advance.






Respectfully,
DSB

[malaise]

83. Huh?

It should not only be politicized, Snyder and his ReTHUG gang should be arrested and tried for poisoning people deliberately.

[NCTraveler]

85. The government fucked them.

It's time for a little political sanity. While you are trying to trash Clinton, try to remember it was already politicized. Don't expect you to.

[MineralMan]

87. Calling attention to that disastrous situation

is not politicizing anything. It's a large enough crisis to deserve attention by presidential candidates. Truly, it should have been one of the questions in the Democratic debate on Sunday. Kudos to Hillary for raising the issue herself.

Her attention helps to direct public attention to something that should have been corrected long ago and that should never have occurred in the first place.

Any of the candidates could have brought it up. Clinton did bring it up. I can't fault her for that.

[Punkingal]

88. She had her surrogates talking about her and her fabulous response...

How about having them talk about the children who are permanently damaged and the things that should be done to fix the pipes etc.

[Beaverhausen]

91. Just when I think I've heard it all, the Sanders supporters surprise me

I'm pretty sure Sanders would not welcome this kind of crap nor would he be proud of any of his supporters saying this.

My god- please tell me you are not serious!

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

94. Well it IS political-this disaster is clearly a result of rightwing ideology taken to extreme &they

must be held accountable - by ALL the Dem candidates as a united front. Snyder and his cronies thought they didn't need to follow no stinkin federal water regulations - and this is the shameful result. I don't know how much more explicit an example of the failure of republican policy we need to get before we finally say ENOUGH of this crap! We peasants need to get our pitchforks and torches fired up and seriously think about storming the proverbial castle.

[oberliner]

96. Gov. Snyder: Clinton politicizing Flint's water crisis

FLINT, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder responded Monday to criticism from presidential candidate Hillary Clinton during the Democratic debates for his handling of Flint's water emergency, saying Clinton is making it a political issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/national-guard-boosts-presence-flint-aid-water-crisis-140249522.html

That's Governor Rick Snyder (R).

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

98. It IS political Ricky boy! Its a direct result of republican far right policy - you and your

ilk don't want to follow fed water regulations - and as a consequence you irreparably harmed the health of many thousands of people and very likely contributed to the deaths of at least 10 people. Be a man and own up.

I know the Ayn Rand wanna bees and all the righties are going to be trying to rationalize this disaster and minimize their role in it.... but what really worries me is all the above posters who should be hoppin mad themselves - AT REPUBLICAN POLICY and philosophy of eliminating/reducing public services!!!! Not at any the Dem candidates who speak up about it.