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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:36 AM Jan 2016

It's Panic Mode for the Democratic Establishment - NBCNews

First Read: It's Panic Mode for the Democratic Establishment
by Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann - NBCNews
Jan 20 2016, 9:24 am ET

<snip>

It's Panic Time for the Democratic establishment

No, Bernie Sanders likely isn't ahead in New Hampshire by 27 points, as yesterday's CNN/WMUR poll showed (the other polling just doesn't back that up). But 12 days before the Iowa caucuses and 20 days before the New Hampshire primary, there's something happenin' out there. And now he's viewed as enough of a legitimate threat that the Democratic establishment and the liberal wonks are piling on him as if he were the frontrunner. It started Monday after the debate, when liberal writers like Paul Krugman, Jonathan Chait, and Ezra Klein either blasted Sanders' single-payer plan or argued he'd make a poor president in these politically polarized times. Then yesterday, author Ta-Nehisi Coates criticized Sanders for proposing utopian prescriptions on economic matters (single-payer on health care, breaking up the big banks) but not on race (reparations for slavery). And last night for the attempted coup de grace, Democratic politicians ran to the New York Times to tell the paper that Sanders would damage the party at the top of the ticket because he's a democratic socialist. Some of the juiciest quotes:

•Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon: "Here in the heartland, we like our politicians in the mainstream, and he is not — he's a socialist."

•Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN): "It wouldn't be helpful [on downballot races] outside Vermont, Massachusetts, Berkeley, Palo Alto and Ann Arbor."

•Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO): "The Republicans won't touch him because they can't wait to run an ad with a hammer and sickle."

(And then don't miss David Brock on Bloomberg last night, labeling Sanders a "socialist… … He's got a 30 year history of affiliation with a lot of whack-doodle ideas and parties. Think about what the Republicans will do with the fact that he's a socialist in the fall.&quot

As the political-science crowd might say, this is "The Party Decides." Of course, it hasn't worked -- at all -- on the Republican side against Trump. So, did Team Clinton ever think it would have to come to this -- trying to destroy Bernie less than two weeks before Iowa?

<snip>

Link: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-it-s-panic-mode-democratic-establishment-n500291




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It's Panic Mode for the Democratic Establishment - NBCNews (Original Post) WillyT Jan 2016 OP
They should proceed at their own peril. I for one would not take that lying down. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #1
Ezra astonished me yesterday when he said 'Democrat party and the Republicans'. Astonishing roguevalley Jan 2016 #8
That is a huge tell. blackspade Jan 2016 #14
He's been a shill his whole career. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #18
WHAT is happening to chuck todd??? restorefreedom Jan 2016 #2
I am from Missouri so i have to stand up for Missouri dem voters Robbins Jan 2016 #3
The Dem Establishment Liked Bernie When As An Independent He Voted With The Dems.... global1 Jan 2016 #4
because he threatened their anoited one Robbins Jan 2016 #5
Almost every single Hillary poster here now were UUUUUGE fans of Bernie when... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #17
The bus has been outfitted awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #19
Just turned on MSNBC and Andrea was talking about the Claire McCaskill quote. MoonchildCA Jan 2016 #6
Clinton's reversal on Single Payer broke the camel's back. A level of hypocrisy unrivaled! nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #7
Words like "panic" associated with the Clinton campaign out in the national media, <2 weeks before thereismore Jan 2016 #9
The Corporate Oligarchy is getting REALLY Desperate Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #10
These people have learned nothing. NOTHING. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #11
Hillary Clinton can only win in red states fbc Jan 2016 #12
Blasting single payer and breaking up big banks..... blackspade Jan 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #15
The PANIC is a clear indication that electing Bernie changes everything Geronimoe Jan 2016 #16

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
8. Ezra astonished me yesterday when he said 'Democrat party and the Republicans'. Astonishing
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jan 2016

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. That is a huge tell.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jan 2016

Anyone that calls it the "Democrat" party is either ignorant or a shill.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
18. He's been a shill his whole career.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jan 2016

All of these fuckers have been sucking on the corporate teet, they're going to fight tooth and nail to remain at the trough.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
2. WHAT is happening to chuck todd???
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jan 2016

he used to be a total corporate hack in the tank for hillary. now he is sounding like an unbiased analyst....sing it chuckie baby!

oh and the party elites WILL NOT choose this time...the people WILL.

damn straight something is happening here...

https://m.



Robbins

(5,066 posts)
3. I am from Missouri so i have to stand up for Missouri dem voters
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jan 2016

many don't agree with Nixon and McCaskill at all.last poll out of Missouri had clinton with only 5 point lead over bernie In MO.and
this was before surge of last week and a half.

I consider Nixon and McCaskill to be worthless after ferguson.It would be nice for them to be as worried as what happened in
their own state as they are about Clinton.Harry Truman might not fit what they call mainstream.FDR defently wouldn't.

global1

(26,340 posts)
4. The Dem Establishment Liked Bernie When As An Independent He Voted With The Dems....
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

They couldn't praise him enough. What changed?

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
5. because he threatened their anoited one
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jan 2016

plus he means what he says and corporists are scared of that.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
17. Almost every single Hillary poster here now were UUUUUGE fans of Bernie when...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

...he was voting with them. And he was a freakin' hero when he did his marathon filibuster. To see them now trashing him illustrates a what stabbing someone in the back looks like.

MoonchildCA

(1,347 posts)
6. Just turned on MSNBC and Andrea was talking about the Claire McCaskill quote.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jan 2016

These Clinton people, including Andrea, are really in panic mode. Unfortunately, they have the airtime. They are now using the republicans' favorite tactic, fear.

It worries and frustrates me a bit. Fortunately, liberal minds are not quite as likely to be manipulated by fear.

TheBlackAdder

(29,924 posts)
7. Clinton's reversal on Single Payer broke the camel's back. A level of hypocrisy unrivaled! nt
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jan 2016

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
9. Words like "panic" associated with the Clinton campaign out in the national media, <2 weeks before
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

Iowa.

I guess the MSM feel it too!

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
10. The Corporate Oligarchy is getting REALLY Desperate
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

Like a wounded animal backed into a corner, they will become more dangerous to the rest of us over time

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
11. These people have learned nothing. NOTHING.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jan 2016

They are thick as bricks.

Here's a clue for the Republican-Lite Dem Establishment: It ain't '94 no more.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
12. Hillary Clinton can only win in red states
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jan 2016

You know, the states that are rendered inconsequential in a general election because they are always won by republicans.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
13. Blasting single payer and breaking up big banks.....
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jan 2016

This is the Democratic primary, right?
Or has the establishment gone so far down the RW rabbit hole that they argue against bedrock principles of our platform?
Fucking hell.

Response to WillyT (Original post)

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
16. The PANIC is a clear indication that electing Bernie changes everything
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jan 2016

no more feeding frenzy at K-Street. Called bribes or per SCOTUS aka free speech.

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