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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:18 PM Jan 2016

Some Hillary emails so top secret investigators didn't have access

Someone is in big trouble.....
This honestly isn't look good for Hillary.

Some of the emails on Hillary Clinton's server were reportedly so sensitive that investigators initially didn't have clearance to view them
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-emails-classified-2016-1

Some of the information that passed through Hillary Clinton's private email server was so sensitive that high-level officials examining the account had to get special security clearance before they could proceed with their probe, NBC's Ken Dilanian reported on Tuesday.

That is according to an intelligence official familiar with the probe into the former secretary of state's "homebrew" server, which is being led by the intelligence community's inspector general, Charles McCullough.

The FBI has also been looking into whether classified material was mishandled during Clinton's tenure at the State Department from 2009 to 2013.

Some of the emails found on Clinton's account — according to a letter McCullough sent to senior lawmakers on January 14 and obtained by Fox News and other publications — contained intelligence so sensitive that it has since been allocated to a special-access program (SAP) designation.

SAPs are designed to safeguard information deemed more sensitive than even "top secret."


A lot more at link.
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Some Hillary emails so top secret investigators didn't have access (Original Post) pinebox Jan 2016 OP
I read "home brew"on a Fox article yesterday underpants Jan 2016 #1
It's interesting pinebox Jan 2016 #3
explains the establishment hacks out in force restorefreedom Jan 2016 #2
This is just not going away. Hillary should step aside for the good of the nation. thereismore Jan 2016 #4
I don't think she can step aside. It is not in her nature to do so. razorman Jan 2016 #10
I understand. Classified is classified no matter what markings. thereismore Jan 2016 #11
One thing bothers me that I have not hear anyone mention is the fact that a large part razorman Jan 2016 #14
Precisely razorman! How did she even do her job? Or was it just titular thereismore Jan 2016 #16
It is absolutely something for which the public deserves an explanation. razorman Jan 2016 #19
That's the part that didn't entirely jive with the Clinton campaign being dismissive Jarqui Jan 2016 #5
The fact that the FBI is investigating is rather worrisome Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #12
Then we are SCREWED, which is the reason John Poet Jan 2016 #22
take a look at the last 30 seconds of this video antigop Jan 2016 #6
No problem with high-level officials examining the account & required special security clearance. Sunlei Jan 2016 #7
. stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #8
Officials: New Top Secret Clinton Emails 'Innocuous' Gothmog Jan 2016 #9
Shhh Lemoni Jan 2016 #13
What fun? GP6971 Jan 2016 #18
You will forgive me if it doesn't bother me. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #15
Hard to know what is true, false, or false and put out there so they can later Skwmom Jan 2016 #17
Fox news is your friend. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #20
Ironic pinebox Jan 2016 #21
Ok. n/t zappaman Jan 2016 #23

underpants

(182,945 posts)
1. I read "home brew"on a Fox article yesterday
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jan 2016

This must be their new talking point. As if it was some Jerry rigged contraption.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
3. It's interesting
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

When investigators don't even have access because stuff is so highly classified? Yikes! This has legs.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
4. This is just not going away. Hillary should step aside for the good of the nation.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jan 2016

She has been saying that none of it was classified at the time, or MARKED classified at the time.

Let me ask this: Can you be a Secretary of State for years and never have classified information in your email? How did she handle all classified information? By courier? Is that how it's done? I don't think so. I think it is more that likely that some classified stuff did go through her home-brew server.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
10. I don't think she can step aside. It is not in her nature to do so.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jan 2016

She has been planning this run for decades. She most likely thinks she was cheated of it in 2008. She is dug in so deep that I am not even sure an indictment would make her let go.
Having said that, markings on classified materials are pretty much irrelevant to people handling such material. Her team may be relying on the fact that most Americans are ignorant of how such things are done. But, there are many of us out here in the public who have handled classified material at some point in our lives that the excuses won't wash.
However, if the FBI or any other entity is going to try to make a case against her over this, they'd better have their ducks in a row, with absolutely solid evidence. With so many attempts against her over the years, they'd better be able to back up whatever they claim.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
11. I understand. Classified is classified no matter what markings.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

I am sure she passed classified info through her insecure server. She must have dealt with tons of classified info as a SOS. How if not by email. Apparently, people in the community did not know her end was non-secure.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
14. One thing bothers me that I have not hear anyone mention is the fact that a large part
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

of SOS job is to handle classified info. If she never used her gov't server, and did not send classified material via her own server, how DID she transmit such data? If she did not send or receive any classified info, then she was not doing her job. No way around it.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
16. Precisely razorman! How did she even do her job? Or was it just titular
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jan 2016

and someone else handled the sensitive information? I want to know.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
5. That's the part that didn't entirely jive with the Clinton campaign being dismissive
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jan 2016

If those emails were so sensitive that the folks looking for Top Secret stuff didn't have the clearance to look at them, then why would someone be stupid enough to stick their neck out and talk about what was in them to the media or the Clinton campaign? It's very confidential stuff.

And maybe the Clinton campaign knows they can't say anything so they can tamp this down with BS. Who knows.

I cannot see this guy McCullough writing such a letter about New York times articles (as the Clinton campaign suggested). He'd have to know he'd look like a buffoon if he did.

It doesn't add up to me. The Clinton campaign has been doing too much lying lately for me to have much faith in their take. I guess time will tell.

I was looking at the primary in terms of: if this thing blew up and Hillary had to withdraw or if they wanted to take Bernie out because the "establishment" didn't want a "socialist" after New Hampshire voted, only 32% of the primary delegates would be up for grabs because primary filing/deadlines for the other 68% would have passed. In fact, the deadline has passed for 50% of the elected delegates now.
https://ballotpedia.org/Important_dates_in_the_2016_presidential_race#State_primary_and_filing_deadline_dates
so I think in practical terms that notion is close to dead unless Hillary hangs on and then tries to turn her delegates over to someone else.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
12. The fact that the FBI is investigating is rather worrisome
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016

what happens if things don't go well for her and she is our nominee?

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
22. Then we are SCREWED, which is the reason
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:09 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton should not be our nominee. She is TOO RISKY.


Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. No problem with high-level officials examining the account & required special security clearance.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jan 2016

so they would NOT be able to share anything they viewed with other interested parties like republicans, including their fox media.

If any of those emails, information was 'leaked' the 'security cleared officials' would be charged with crimes.

I also have no doubt that server and plenty of other servers were hacked years ago. back years ago murdock corps & 'friends' had pretty much open access to a lot of stored information, not just voicemail accounts.

Gothmog

(145,665 posts)
9. Officials: New Top Secret Clinton Emails 'Innocuous'
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

Here are some more facts on this matter http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-new-top-secret-clinton-emails-innocuous-n500586


The officials say the emails included relatively "innocuous" conversations by State Department officials about the CIA drone program, which technically is considered a "Special Access Program" because officials are briefed on it only if they have a "need to know."

As a legal matter, the U.S. government does not acknowledge that the CIA kills militants with drones. The fact that the CIA conducts drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, however, has long been known. Senior officials, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein and former CIA Director Leon Panetta, have publicly discussed CIA drones.

In 2009, Feinstein disclosed during a public hearing that the U.S. was flying Predator drones out of a base in Pakistan. Also that year, Panetta called drone strikes in Pakistan "the only game in town in terms of confronting or trying to disrupt the al Qaeda leadership." Various public web sites continue to keep track of each CIA drone strike.

At issue are a new batch of emails from Clinton's home server that have been flagged as containing classified information in a sworn statement to the inspector general of the intelligence community. The sworn statement came from the CIA, two U.S. officials tell NBC News.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
17. Hard to know what is true, false, or false and put out there so they can later
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jan 2016

discredit it as false and hope that people will believe the true stuff is actually false.

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