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Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:52 PM

 

Clinton calls Bernie part of the 'establishment'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-establishment-iran-normalization/index.html

Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton on Thursday sought to turn Sen. Bernie Sanders' "establishment" attack right back on him -- saying he served in Washington much longer than she did.

She also attacked his experience and fitness to lead the country, criticizing his suggestion that the U.S. should warm its relationship with Iran.

The Democratic front-runner told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room" that Sanders' charge that Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign support Clinton because they are all part of the establishment didn't make sense to her.

"I just don't understand what that means. He's been in Congress, he's been elected to office a lot longer than I have," Clinton said.

She noted she only served in the Senate for eight years.

"He's been in the Congress for 25. And so I'll let your viewers make their own judgment," Clinton said.


Just when you thought this race couldn't get any weirder.

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Reply Clinton calls Bernie part of the 'establishment' (Original post)
HerbChestnut Jan 2016 OP
libdem4life Jan 2016 #1
dlwickham Jan 2016 #9
cali Jan 2016 #11
libdem4life Jan 2016 #19
dlwickham Jan 2016 #30
libdem4life Jan 2016 #33
dlwickham Jan 2016 #35
Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #46
dlwickham Jan 2016 #47
Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #49
Lancero Jan 2016 #50
dlwickham Jan 2016 #61
Lancero Jan 2016 #62
pangaia Jan 2016 #56
SoapBox Jan 2016 #34
dlwickham Jan 2016 #48
jwirr Jan 2016 #41
Hortensis Jan 2016 #51
azmom Jan 2016 #2
jkbRN Jan 2016 #3
reformist2 Jan 2016 #25
Hortensis Jan 2016 #53
reformist2 Jan 2016 #63
Hortensis Jan 2016 #65
Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #4
baldguy Jan 2016 #14
libdem4life Jan 2016 #23
pangaia Jan 2016 #57
LittleBlue Jan 2016 #5
Helen Borg Jan 2016 #16
840high Jan 2016 #42
CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #6
Wilms Jan 2016 #7
tk2kewl Jan 2016 #10
Odin2005 Jan 2016 #12
last1standing Jan 2016 #8
Odin2005 Jan 2016 #13
avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #15
cali Jan 2016 #17
Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #20
earthside Jan 2016 #39
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libodem Jan 2016 #45
cali Jan 2016 #22
Metric System Jan 2016 #28
avaistheone1 Jan 2016 #43
Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #18
ejbr Jan 2016 #29
gwheezie Jan 2016 #21
cali Jan 2016 #27
Autumn Jan 2016 #24
Armstead Jan 2016 #26
Armstead Jan 2016 #31
SoapBox Jan 2016 #32
Ino Jan 2016 #36
Prism Jan 2016 #37
tularetom Jan 2016 #38
INdemo Jan 2016 #60
Live and Learn Jan 2016 #40
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libodem Jan 2016 #44
Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #52
Senator Tankerbell Jan 2016 #54
Jarqui Jan 2016 #55
INdemo Jan 2016 #58
CentralMass Jan 2016 #59
EndElectoral Jan 2016 #64

Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:55 PM

1. At least he did it from his Real state of residence. There's that. Then the fact that

 

he's an Independent...and a Socialist...speaking of pretzels. I like mine salted and piping hot.

That one's going to leave a mark...Bernie, the Non-Establishment poseur.

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:19 PM

9. I thought he was originally from New York

not Vermont

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:21 PM

11. He's lived in Vermont for over 40 years

 

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:35 PM

19. The reference was to HRC's Carpetbagging to the NY Senate.

 

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:51 PM

30. but Bernie isn't Vermont

he's from New York

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:00 PM

33. Let's see...he's been in the Senate for How Many Years? Are you serious? What is your point?

 

Oh, and he was a Mayor of Burlington, as I recall. Again, your point?

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:05 PM

35. but he's not from Vermont

he moved there in the late 60s and started running for political office in the early to mid 70s

sounds pretty much like a carpetbagger to me





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Response to dlwickham (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:18 PM

46. Gee, someone who lives in a state for several years before running for public office there

versus someone who moves to a state specifically to run for public office there and launches her campaign almost immediately upon arrival.

One is a carpetbagger, the other isn't. And you know darn well which one is.

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:01 AM

47. Sanders is a carpetbagger

Seems pretty simple to understand

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #47)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:06 AM

49. How is he a carpetbagger?

He moved to a state to live there. He did not move there specifically to run for office. Hell, if I moved to Missouri, then decided I wanted to run for office there 8 years after I moved there, I would NOT be a carpetbagger-- by that time I'd be an established resident. And people on DU would probably support my campaign.

Hillary, on the other hand, moved to New York SPECIFICALLY to run for office, and she started her campaign almost as soon as she got there.

That's a BIG freaking difference.

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #47)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:01 AM

50. You keep using that word...

I do not think it means what you think it means.

It refers to someone working to get elected in a area that they have no ties in, and in most cases as the result of desperation on part of one political party

When Bernie ran for senate, he had been in Vermont for four years. When Hillary ran, she hadn't been a resident for even a year - In fact, the ONLY reason the Clintons bought a home in New York was for the express purpose of her running for election.

So, where as Hillary 'moved' to New York for the express purpose of running for their elections, Sanders had been a resident in Vermont for about 3 years - Not out of any desire to run for elections, but simply because he thought 'hey, Vermont looks nice, I'm no longer stuck in collage, lets have a change of scenery' - before getting started in politics in 71.

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Response to Lancero (Reply #50)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:30 AM

61. He's still a carpetbagger

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #61)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:34 AM

62. As I've already shown, he isn't.

Still waiting for you to actually (try to) disprove my post rather then just give a rehash of your (disproven) previous comment.

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:22 AM

56. jesus on a stick, GIVE IT UP, will ya !

You sound like THINKINGABOUT.


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Response to dlwickham (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:02 PM

34. Born in New York.

He was born in 1941 in Brooklyn, New York, he attended James Madison High School, Brooklyn College and graduated from University of Chicago in 1964.

Not sure how many years he was in Chicago but after he graduated, he moved to Vermont.

....info from BernieSanders.com and Wikipedia.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:02 AM

48. He moved to Vermont in 1968

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:28 PM

41. He has made his primary residence in Vermont most of his

life. She cannot say the same about NY.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:08 AM

51. Bernie voted with Dems more than 94% of the time.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:56 PM

2. LOL

She better be careful. Bernie may just have to explain it.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:00 PM

3. So. Desperate.

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Response to jkbRN (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:39 PM

25. It's sad. She basically conceded that she is part of the establishment.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:11 AM

53. Bernie voted with Hillary 94% of the time.

He's been in DC in Congress for 25 years, all through the nation's shift rightward, always voting WITH the Democrats. Of course he is part of the establishment. That is not an insult.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #53)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:58 PM

63. But that 6% of the time they voted differently, often those were the big votes that mattered.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #63)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:13 PM

65. Ooohhh, gotcha.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:01 PM

4. Well....he has been in Congress for a quarter century.....

 

I'd say that's pretty "establishment"

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:27 PM

14. But Dear Leader must not be questioned.

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:38 PM

23. Another pretzel...did you forget he's a Socialist...an Independent...you know...nothing here to see?

 

Can't get elected. Old. Rumpled. Could go on and on. I'm sure it is a bit hard to take that he's the frontrunner...or a good deal up from Nowhere, at the very least.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:26 AM

57. No, that does NOT mean he is 'establishment.'

Do you SERIOUSLY not know what that term means, OR, art you just playing dumb?

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:03 PM

5. Hillary abandoning all pretense at truth

 

She's desperately flinging poo at a wall and seeing what sticks.

Must be getting a tad worried.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:30 PM

16. Learning from Trump?

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Response to Helen Borg (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:06 PM

42. Nah - she's the expert on

 

poo - Trump took lessons from her.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:04 PM

6. I don't think I've ever heard such a self-defeating attack before.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:06 PM

7. Is she competing with Palin?

 

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Response to Wilms (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:20 PM

10. Lol

 

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Response to Wilms (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:24 PM

12. I was thinking the same thing.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:08 PM

8. So she's admitting that she's so stupid she doesn't understand why she's "establishment?"

Why would we want a stupid president again? Wasn't her close family friend GW Bush enough stupid for one lifetime?

Or is she trying to pick up the "stupid" demographic? You know, the people so uninformed that they'll actually fall for this pathetic deception.

Either way, she's not fit to be president.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:24 PM

13. This just oozes desperation.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:27 PM

15. Momentarily Webster's dictionary is going to have Hillary's pic next to the word disingenuous.

 

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Response to avaistheone1 (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:30 PM

17. Fuck posting photoshopped pictures that demean Clinton and

 

by extension, women

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Response to cali (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:36 PM

20. Feel the Bern, baby. nt

 

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Response to cali (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:11 PM

39. That photo isn't Photoshopped.

Found the link on Huffington Post that says: "Cliff Owen, an Associated Press photographer, caught Clinton winking at a committee member during a hearing on the Law of the Sea Convention."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/hillary-clinton-photo-caption-contest_n_1545548.html

Here is the photo at the Associated Press site:

http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/APTOPIX-Sea-Treaty/5cdb16580b734c8090bfa3f8f6dca76c

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Response to cali (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:11 PM

45. .

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Response to avaistheone1 (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:37 PM

22. You survived. You shouldn't have. You should be fucking ashamed.

 


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Explanation: Even if not photoshopped, the attack is blatantly sexist. I dislike Hilary for her record and (lack of) beliefs, not because she's not pretty without make-up.
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Explanation: No Democrat would post this. Shabby beyond endurance.
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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:44 PM

28. Thank you Cali.

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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:07 PM

43. That's YOUR opinion which means nothing to me. I have no reason whatsoever to be ashamed, none.

 

And point your old finger right back at yourself where it belongs. nt




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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:33 PM

18. So she admits he is more experienced

 

Interesting.


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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:50 PM

29. Ding! Ding! Ding! n/t

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:36 PM

21. He has been in mainstream politics for decades

So has Clinton, although she has held office less time than he has. I'm trying to figure out what the outrage is about. On one hand I hear Bernie has worked so well with his peers in Congress so he'll have no problems getting his agenda through but then I hear he's like a maverick outsider.

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:43 PM

27. He has been along time independent

 

He doesn't play footsie with big money interests or curry large donors. He doesn't observe quite a few political conventions. In every way but gender, Hillary is a very conventional, establishment politician.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:39 PM

24. Hillary, Hillary,Hillary.

Bernie voted no on the Iraq war, you voted yes. Bernie is for Medicare for All, you want me to buy health insurance that will cost me more and give me less. You want war Bernie wants' to try diplomacy. Bernie represents the Americana people, by your own admission you represent Wall Street. I have made my own judgment and you have come up wanting. Your judgment is not sound.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:41 PM

26. She must be desperate to lower herself to go on CNN Situation Room

 

As for that 25 years versus 8 years....Well, yeah. If you're just your ticket in the Senate to have something on your resume for a presidential run.

Sorta like Mitt Romney did in Massachusetts

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:52 PM

31. Her shifting positions and messages are becoming like a kaleidoscope

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:52 PM

32. Well....WTF?

What the HELL?

Good gawd...she is THE worst. Can she talk consistent ISSUES? No! Can she talk about he STANCE? PLATFORM? NO!

So she goes with bullshit and dirty politics!

Worst...Candidate and Campaign...Ever! At least since 2008.

It's just dumbfounding.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:07 PM

36. She killed her "I'm more experienced" argument...

in favor of claiming Sanders is establishment, not her... because he's been in Congress 25 years to her 8.

My judgment is that she's no longer making any sense at all, has gone off the rails looking for something -- anything -- to get control.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:08 PM

37. She's saying the words! Words!

 

What else do you want her to say?! She'll say it. Whatever you want!

Someone just telllllll her what to saayyyyyy!

. . .

I honestly cannot believe these are adults in charge of her campaign. These are some of the dumbest political operatives I have ever witnessed.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:11 PM

38. As time goes on her attacks become more and more childish

By the time of the Iowa caucuses she'll be telling everybody that Bernie Sanders is a poopy head.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #38)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:40 AM

60. Not only is Hillary behind in IA

and NH but she
is so outrageous she is funny

Go Bernie !!!!!

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:20 PM

40. Bernie is amazing. So many things in one man. He's an insider. He's an outsider. He's establishment.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:09 PM

44. .

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:09 AM

52. If Hillary is part of the "establishment" for being in the Senate for eight years

So is Sanders, he has been in the Senate since 2006. Furthermore he has been in Congress since 1991. He is an example of "establishment".

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:12 AM

54. This kind of thing is what bothers me about Clinton.

She speaks as if she thinks I am an idiot. I can't support someone who constantly insults my intelligence.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:16 AM

55. This is the classic GOP political tactic:

When a candidate is guilty of something, accuse the other candidate of being guilty of it - even if they're not.

That way, for the folks just reading headlines, you soften the allegation if the media takes the bait (as it often does)

Just another deception by Hillary. They're coming daily now.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:35 AM

58. Hillary has officially lost it

This is a Karl Rove tactic Hillary
Hillary is more desperate than we first thought.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:35 AM

59. It hurts to laugh. I slipped and cracked some ribs a few days ago..Time for some Advil.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 04:05 PM

64. So which is it? He has more experience, he's a socialist, a commie, or now part of Establishment

Get your act together Hill. Shades of desperation. Breathe, you're all over the place.

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