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JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:29 PM Jan 2016

CLINTON statement on red-baiting: "It's a pathetic ploy by a desperate politician"

Bill Clinton, that is, in 1992.

But the strange case of Mr Clinton's trip to Moscow looks to have a greater impact on this weekend's first presidential television debate, and on the election, now little more than three weeks away.

Mr Clinton should 'level with the American people on the draft, on whether he went to Moscow, how many demonstrations he led against his own country from foreign soil,' Mr Bush declared on the Larry King television show.

'I don't have the facts, but to go to Moscow one year after Russia crushed Czechoslovakia, and not remember who you saw - I think the answer is, level with the American people,' Mr Bush repeated.

For the first time the Clinton rebuttal team seems to have been wrong-footed by an attack by the Bush campaign team. 'It's a pathetic ploy by a desperate politician,' Mr Clinton 's spokesman said.

Mr Clinton said Mr Bush was grasping at straws. 'Here we are on the way to a debate about the great issues facing the country and he descends to that level,' he said.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/1992/oct/09/usa.martinwalker

Seems that the Clintons have learned from the worst best.
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CLINTON statement on red-baiting: "It's a pathetic ploy by a desperate politician" (Original Post) JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 OP
good one! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #1
But they're BFFs with Poppy now demwing Jan 2016 #2
That's the whole point...just one big, happy 1% political family. Guarantee you I know libdem4life Jan 2016 #3
What else would you expect from hifiguy Jan 2016 #8
They are so sad, and it will indeed be so sad if we are forced to consider supporting their can't do highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #11
So if... asuhornets Jan 2016 #12
Careful responding to this, draa. They're fishing for a TOS violation & tombstone. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #14
Thanks, I've already been through it. draa Jan 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author MissDeeds Jan 2016 #19
Isn't it telling that the Clinton Team has "Witch Hunters", Red Baiters, and a loyalty oath brigade? bvar22 Jan 2016 #43
That or a write-in for Sanders. draa Jan 2016 #16
Seriously? You'd rather Trump or Cruz or Jeb or Hucklebee or Christi.... marble falls Jan 2016 #38
It is always worth remembering that many on DU live in deep blue states. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #39
Even so. If he sits home not only will he not be voting for Hillary..... marble falls Jan 2016 #40
Yes I am deeply opposed to staying home. I *will* be voting. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #41
So if... Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #20
Absolutely not. n/t asuhornets Jan 2016 #21
None of your business. n/t tazkcmo Jan 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #35
LOL! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #5
I must give proper credit to Glenn Greenwald for first finding it. I was barely alive then! n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #6
papa left his successor Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #10
Look at that. navarth Jan 2016 #24
PURE CLASS, THAT HILLARY CLINTON, PURE CLASS... Indepatriot Jan 2016 #7
OUCH. John Poet Jan 2016 #9
Oh damn Prism Jan 2016 #13
Oopsie MissDeeds Jan 2016 #15
Nice find! nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #17
Ouch. bvf Jan 2016 #22
You can't make this stuff up. pangaia Jan 2016 #23
K & R AzDar Jan 2016 #25
I remember the red-baiting against Bill Oilwellian Jan 2016 #26
We already knew that already Hillary Kalidurga Jan 2016 #28
LOL !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #29
Oh...BILL! I see what you did there.... TrollBuster9090 Jan 2016 #30
tsk tsk Hillary. nt retrowire Jan 2016 #31
K&R azmom Jan 2016 #32
K and Mega-R kath Jan 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #34
Flippin' and floppin' - everything goes in the pursuit of Clinton power. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #36
There you go again, Hillary is not Bill and it's not fair to hold her to his self serving statements Fumesucker Jan 2016 #37
Kick! kath Jan 2016 #42
Bill called Shrubby his "brother from another mother." Utopian Leftist Jan 2016 #44
k&r (nt) noamnety Mar 2016 #45
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. That's the whole point...just one big, happy 1% political family. Guarantee you I know
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jan 2016

one who isn't in The Club. Who might that be?

Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #4)

draa

(975 posts)
18. Thanks, I've already been through it.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

As long as I'm not telling someone to vote for my candidate there shouldn't be an issue. And I would never do that.

Also, we're still in the primary. DU doesn't solidify around one candidate until after the primary. Thanks though and I'll tread lightly.

Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #14)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
43. Isn't it telling that the Clinton Team has "Witch Hunters", Red Baiters, and a loyalty oath brigade?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jan 2016

I am an American.
One of our most sacred rights is the Secret Ballot.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
38. Seriously? You'd rather Trump or Cruz or Jeb or Hucklebee or Christi....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jan 2016

or Santorum, or Rubio than Clinton??????????

What good is your protest vote if helps finally put the Teapublicans in power irretrievably?

I want Bernie Sanders, but not to the point of self immolation. I don't want another spoiler election.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
40. Even so. If he sits home not only will he not be voting for Hillary.....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jan 2016

he won't be voting in the more important elections - Congress.

And a lot of those potential "write-in" voters end up not voting. Thats the real voter suppression - make people feel their vote doesn't count.

Response to asuhornets (Reply #12)

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
10. papa left his successor
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:20 PM - Edit history (1)

The mess in Somalia and Jr. had to top it by one

Papa was able to clean up at least on one of his past cozy relationships and not have that dragged out past his leaving the whitehouse.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/28/us/bush-and-noriega-examination-of-their-ties.html



Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
26. I remember the red-baiting against Bill
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jan 2016

I thought of it earlier today and how similar it was to the red-baiting behind Bernie's trip. Except this time it's his wife who is casting the bait. Wow. Desperate politician indeed.


k&r

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. We already knew that already Hillary
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jan 2016

But, please carry on. Your temper tantrums are always good for your opponents to get a bump in the polls.

Response to JonLeibowitz (Original post)

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
36. Flippin' and floppin' - everything goes in the pursuit of Clinton power.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:12 AM
Jan 2016

They don't even think twice about lying and smearing.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
44. Bill called Shrubby his "brother from another mother."
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

I guess he'll have to call Jebby his "creature from another feature."

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