Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:16 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
Why is Hillary's 2008 campaign chair directing this town hall?
When George Stephanopoulos was not allowed to moderate a debate, only because he gave a contribution? Oh, and they like each other.
Now this so called "Town Hall" debate, ginned up by DWS and Hillary, was probably planned all along. Knowing there would be complaints because there WERE too few debates, they plan to throw in this type of event, where they say Hillary "performs well". Such shenanigans!! Also, Hillary has already been caught stacking the audience questions at her town hall style debates. So why are the people being forced to endure such a shit show, all to try and show HILLARY at her finest one week before the Iowa caucuses? How can DWS and the DNC make this crap up as they go along? Can we sanction the party for this? After all, those were their rules?
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ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | OP |
ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | #1 | |
George II | Jan 2016 | #34 | |
Ferd Berfel | Jan 2016 | #43 | |
Bjorn Against | Jan 2016 | #2 | |
ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | #6 | |
msongs | Jan 2016 | #3 | |
CoffeeCat | Jan 2016 | #4 | |
ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | #8 | |
JonLeibowitz | Jan 2016 | #18 | |
Duval | Jan 2016 | #24 | |
JonLeibowitz | Jan 2016 | #26 | |
Babel_17 | Jan 2016 | #38 | |
nashville_brook | Jan 2016 | #45 | |
SusanCalvin | Jan 2016 | #31 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #21 | |
pnwmom | Jan 2016 | #30 | |
Skwmom | Jan 2016 | #5 | |
MeNMyVolt | Jan 2016 | #7 | |
EdwardBernays | Jan 2016 | #9 | |
restorefreedom | Jan 2016 | #37 | |
SecularMotion | Jan 2016 | #10 | |
senz | Jan 2016 | #11 | |
Empowerer | Jan 2016 | #15 | |
Duval | Jan 2016 | #25 | |
restorefreedom | Jan 2016 | #40 | |
brooklynite | Jan 2016 | #12 | |
GoneFishin | Jan 2016 | #13 | |
pnwmom | Jan 2016 | #29 | |
billhicks76 | Jan 2016 | #14 | |
morningfog | Jan 2016 | #20 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #22 | |
KittyWampus | Jan 2016 | #16 | |
pangaia | Jan 2016 | #17 | |
fbc | Jan 2016 | #19 | |
CorporatistNation | Jan 2016 | #23 | |
Joe Shlabotnik | Jan 2016 | #33 | |
pnwmom | Jan 2016 | #27 | |
merrily | Jan 2016 | #28 | |
silvershadow | Jan 2016 | #32 | |
cherokeeprogressive | Jan 2016 | #35 | |
George II | Jan 2016 | #36 | |
ViseGrip | Jan 2016 | #39 | |
stillwaiting | Jan 2016 | #41 | |
stillwaiting | Jan 2016 | #42 | |
aikoaiko | Jan 2016 | #44 |
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:19 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
1. Kick so it can be read and sink in over the next day or two....
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:10 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
34. So you "kick" your OWN post just three minutes after you posted it?
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:50 AM
Ferd Berfel (3,687 posts)
43. Kicked so it can STINK right up to the event
Set-up? IF it walks like a duck..........
No possible conflict of interest here. I hope Sanders reams them for this during the event. History: Let's understand The CLintons and the DLC and who these people are and what they value. http://www.democrats.com/node/7789 The Rightwing Koch Brothers Fund the DLC ... the Koch brothers have also been funding the Democratic Leadership Council. Welcome fellow Democrat! .. |
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:25 PM
Bjorn Against (12,041 posts)
2. This needs to be pointed out widely, it is a huge conflict of interest
On a side note, trust me when I say you do not want George Stephanopoulos moderating a debate. He moderated one between Hillary and Obama in 2008 and he was the absolute worst moderator I have ever seen in a debate. Nearly every question to Obama was based on a right-wing smear such as Reverend Wright while Hillary got all softballs.
It was a major shit storm on DU at the time, all of Obama's supporters were pissed. |
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #2)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:36 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
6. No I don't want George, just pointing out the hypocrisy. A very low character trait.
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:31 PM
msongs (66,191 posts)
3. well that 's it then, bernie ought to just boycott this event in outraged protest :-) nt
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:32 PM
CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)
4. Yes, Dr Andy McGuire
is a very good friend and colleague of Hillary Clinton. She's also the chair of the Iowa Democratic Party.
That's how she's in a position to head up this "Town Hall." I'm outraged that it was foisted on us, on the Iowa electorate--simply because Hillary is behind and her camp decided that they needed to do something. Well, where were the debates when MOM and Sanders needed them? The deck is so stacked for her. I don't think she'll end up winning, but you can bet she's got plans for this Town Hall. They didn't organize this so Hillary could give a stump speech. I think they're planning on trying to lob some grenades at Bernie. And yes, this Town Hall is moderated by Chris Cuomo, but all the questioners are Iowa voters. Who attends the debate (who gets in the audience) is determined by who responds to the Iowa Democratic Party email. If you respond, your name is put into consideration and they'll draw names. I sent the email back. I assume that they will chose questioners from the pool of audience attendees. If they want to plant questions, this is the easiest way to do it. And yes, Hillary has planted questions at a Town Hall in Iowa in 2008. |
Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:37 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
8. Such utter bullshit....
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:43 PM
JonLeibowitz (6,282 posts)
18. What a thoughtful critique. I see no bullshit anywhere in Coffeecat's post, in fact.
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:53 PM
Duval (4,280 posts)
24. Sorry you feel that way. CoffeeCat has never offered up Bull Shit.
Response to Duval (Reply #24)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:58 PM
JonLeibowitz (6,282 posts)
26. Actually...
On second thought i think visegrip is commenting on the BS of the situation. He sid write the OP after all.
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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #26)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:16 AM
Babel_17 (5,400 posts)
38. That's how I took it (it can be hard to tell)
Like you said, given that he wrote the OP ...
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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #26)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:49 AM
nashville_brook (20,958 posts)
45. yes, i believe CC is commiserating.
Response to ViseGrip (Reply #8)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:26 AM
SusanCalvin (6,592 posts)
31. I hope you don't mean CoffeeCat. nt
Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:49 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
21. "Classic" Pick And CHOOSE! My EX Congressperson Waas Famous for This Format!
"Da FIXXX" IS In on this one... Wait and see! The Clinton Bunch are as snivelly a bunch as you'll ever find. Sniveling bunch of cheaters!
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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:03 AM
pnwmom (108,329 posts)
30. First Bernie people complain that there aren't enough events, and now they're complaining
this Town Hall will somehow help Hillary instead of Bernie.
![]() Reality check: most if not all of the Iowa party leadership endorsed Hillary long ago. Bernie knew that going in, and he's successfully dealing with it. |
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:35 PM
Skwmom (12,685 posts)
5. What a surprise.
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:36 PM
MeNMyVolt (1,095 posts)
7. Because we're all out to get you and Sanders.
You lose. Next question.
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:38 PM
EdwardBernays (3,343 posts)
9. Because
Her current Campaign Chair is too busy lobbying for Saudi Arabia and Weapons Manufacturers...?
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Response to EdwardBernays (Reply #9)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:15 AM
restorefreedom (12,655 posts)
37. bam! nt
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:43 PM
SecularMotion (7,981 posts)
10. Because it's hard to find a Democrat who doesn't support Hillary Clinton?
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:52 PM
senz (11,945 posts)
11. It's got all the earmarks of a setup.
Hopefully Bernie and the people of Iowa will be ready for it.
Social media might help with the latter. People should take notes and report on it so everyone will know what happened. |
Response to senz (Reply #11)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:40 PM
Empowerer (3,900 posts)
15. Poor Bernie. He's such a victim
Response to senz (Reply #11)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:57 PM
Duval (4,280 posts)
25. You and I will be listening closely.
I'm not a good note taker, but the idea is marvelous. I hope some will do this and report back.
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Response to senz (Reply #11)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:20 AM
restorefreedom (12,655 posts)
40. i have bern checking sm
there are efforts to counteract the rigging being assembled as we speak...protests in and out of the venue, and some folks are posing as hillary supporters to get in and maybe ask a question.
i don't plan to watch but i am sure it will totallly backfire on hillary. the veil is off now. people know her game and that of her minions. bernie will do great despite the collusion to take him down...i smell a another million headed his way! |
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:54 PM
brooklynite (89,697 posts)
12. Is there ANYTHING about this campaign season that isn't a conspiracy?
Fortunately for you, Bernie Sanders doesn't believe in these idiotic charges.
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:33 PM
GoneFishin (5,217 posts)
13. They just can't take their fucking thumb off the scale. This cheating is why I support only Bernie.
It's in their DNA.
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Response to GoneFishin (Reply #13)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:00 AM
pnwmom (108,329 posts)
29. Who among the local party leadership hasn't already endorsed Hillary?
Bernie's known that all along. It's not a conspiracy, just reality.
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:35 PM
billhicks76 (5,082 posts)
14. Peoples Hate Towards Hillary Grows Daily
Response to billhicks76 (Reply #14)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:44 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
20. Make that "The People's..."
Response to billhicks76 (Reply #14)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:52 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
22. EXPONENTIALLY SO!
The dishonesty is what is really killing her now. It only more firmly entrenches her sordid history going back in the minds of the voting public. Hillary is her own worst enemy and she has zero people to blame other than herself!
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:41 PM
KittyWampus (55,894 posts)
16. You think they'd get a Socialist to direct it? Sanders is the one who eschewed
the Democratic Party. Maybe if he hadn't he'd have more important allies within the Democratic Party.
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:42 PM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
17. When was this thing set up?
And by whom? REALLY by whom?
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:43 PM
fbc (1,668 posts)
19. Well did you think the billionaires and corporations were just going to give us back our party?
They've paid a lot of money to buy the Democratic party. They aren't just going to give it back. We have to take it back.
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Response to fbc (Reply #19)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:52 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
23. Now You're On To Something!
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Response to fbc (Reply #19)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:55 AM
Joe Shlabotnik (5,604 posts)
33. Tentacles
The oligarchy has long tentacles.
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:59 PM
pnwmom (108,329 posts)
27. Who among the local party leadership hasn't endorsed Hillary?
Bernie waited a bit too long to start making connections outside of Vermont and the Senate.
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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:00 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
28. Corruption? Shamefulness? Total absence of level playing field?
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:35 AM
silvershadow (10,336 posts)
32. You know who might know? Debbie. nt
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:12 AM
cherokeeprogressive (24,853 posts)
35. It's a BIG CLUB, and we ain't in it.
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:12 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
36. That's the way it goes.
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:44 AM
stillwaiting (3,795 posts)
41. Dr. Andy McGuire's license plate...
Response to ViseGrip (Original post)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:47 AM
stillwaiting (3,795 posts)
42. Hillary campaign PLANTING questions in town hall audiences
Response to stillwaiting (Reply #42)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:01 AM
aikoaiko (33,820 posts)