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Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:59 PM

Des Moines Register Endorses Clinton.... In Presidential Race

This will help http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/des-moines-register-hillary-clinton-marco-rubio

The Des Moines Register editorial board announced on Saturday that it would endorse Hillary Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) in the Republican primary.

The editorial board wrote that Clinton has the necessary experience to be president of the United States:

The presidency is not an entry-level position. Whoever is sworn into office next January must demonstrate not only a deep understanding of the issues facing America, but also possess the diplomatic skills that enable presidents to forge alliances to get things done.
By that measure, Democrats have one outstanding candidate deserving of their support: Hillary Clinton. No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience.

The Iowa paper wrote that Clinton is not "perfect candidate, as evidenced the way she has handled the furor over her private email server." But the editorial board said that it's "almost inconceivable" that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) would be able to "remake Washington in his own image."

This endorsement will help some

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Reply Des Moines Register Endorses Clinton.... In Presidential Race (Original post)
Gothmog Jan 2016 OP
Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #1
MineralMan Jan 2016 #7
JRLeft Jan 2016 #11
MineralMan Jan 2016 #13
Gothmog Jan 2016 #22
hedda_foil Jan 2016 #25
Gothmog Jan 2016 #29
SunSeeker Jan 2016 #2
rateyes Jan 2016 #33
SunSeeker Jan 2016 #37
rateyes Jan 2016 #38
SunSeeker Jan 2016 #40
rateyes Jan 2016 #41
SunSeeker Jan 2016 #42
rateyes Jan 2016 #43
SunSeeker Jan 2016 #44
rateyes Jan 2016 #47
SunSeeker Jan 2016 #48
lunamagica Jan 2016 #3
Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #4
restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5
Punkingal Jan 2016 #6
HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #12
lostnfound Jan 2016 #18
Iliyah Jan 2016 #8
ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #9
emulatorloo Jan 2016 #17
ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #30
mcar Jan 2016 #10
JRLeft Jan 2016 #15
Gothmog Jan 2016 #23
JRLeft Jan 2016 #24
Gothmog Jan 2016 #28
JRLeft Jan 2016 #31
in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #14
DesertRat Jan 2016 #16
JRLeft Jan 2016 #19
oasis Jan 2016 #20
orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #27
R B Garr Jan 2016 #21
Iliyah Jan 2016 #32
orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #26
Gothmog Jan 2016 #34
artislife Jan 2016 #35
B Calm Jan 2016 #36
Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #39
KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #45
Ash_F Jan 2016 #46
Gothmog Jan 2016 #49

Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:01 PM

1. They also endorsed Nixon

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:36 PM

7. Yes. He won, too,

To the detriment of us all. Different time. Different election.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:46 PM

11. They endorsed her in 08 too.

 

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:48 PM

13. OK. I don't live in Iowa.

People who do will caucus there. I'm just an observer of those caucuses.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:20 PM

22. Sander is no Barack Obama

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:24 PM

25. Rather, Obama is no Bernie Sanders.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:32 PM

29. That is correct-Barack Obama had the support of African American voters

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:05 PM

2. "The presidency is not an entry level position."

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:57 PM

33. I assume you voted for Obama??

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Response to rateyes (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:29 AM

37. Obama was not "entry level." The Register is referring to the likes of Trump, Carson and Fiorina.

Entry level is a reference to people who never held elected office before. That is one of the reasons why the Register endorsed Rubio on the GOP side.

Says a lot about you that you thought that meant Obama.

With regard to Hillary, the Register said, "No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience." I agree. I expect the Register will endorse Hillary in the GE, since the Register has already acknowledged Hillary is vastly more qualified than anyone running on the GOP side.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:35 AM

38. But the Register was taking a shot at Bernie

By saying that, and your post seemed to agree with it. Bernie, by your standards then is more qualified than Obama was.

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Response to rateyes (Reply #38)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:15 PM

40. No, Bernie is not more qualified than Obama was.

Obama also has a Harvard Law degree (and was a Constitutional law professor) and was a community organizer and a state senator. You shouldn't believe everything you read in right wing media outlets.

Maybe if Bernie had taught Constitutional law, he would not have said that his Supreme Court nominee would take up Citizens United on "day one."

BTW, Hillary was also a law professor.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #40)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:33 PM

41. And Bernie has spent much more time in elected

Office than Obama.

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Response to rateyes (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:43 AM

42. It was spent as mayor of a town of 40k, and Congressman of a tiny state. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:02 AM

43. And a US Senator. He has 20 yrs more governing experience

Than Obama

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Response to rateyes (Reply #43)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:18 AM

44. Obama had a lot more qualifications, in addition to his Senate years.

Sanders certainly has more years in the Senate than Obama. But his Senate years were not the only thing on Obama's resume, as I point out above. Obama had governing experience and qualifications, unlike Trump, Carson and Fiorina.

Interesting how people who trash Hillary also tend to trash Obama.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #44)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:59 PM

47. I wasn't trashing anybody. You were.

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Response to rateyes (Reply #47)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:52 PM

48. Nope, you brought up Obama, insinuating that is who the "entry level" ramark was aimed at.

I told you it was aimed at the GOP contenders who have never been office holders.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:08 PM

3. Oh, wow! WTG, Hillary!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:09 PM

4. Well, I was half right anyway.

I figured they'd endorse the centrist establishment candidate, but I thought Kasich instead of Rubio.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:10 PM

5. very disappointed they endorsed rubio.

but at least it wasn't jeb!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:16 PM

6. The presidency is not an entry-level position...then they endorse Rubio?????

Deer in the headlights Rubio? I don't get that one.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:47 PM

12. I noticed that, too. Well they needed a rationale

and they couldn't really go with, 'the president must think the job is important enough to quit doing your other elected job so that you can campaign 100% of the time'.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:56 PM

18. That's really funny. Also, note the experience of Obama vs Bernie..

I honestly think Obama has been a great president, except for the economic centrism and being less than successful at ending Bush's wars. And I don't mean that as a slam; I mean it sincerely. Not perfect as a president, but he did a lot of great things (within the confines of what TPTB allowed at the time). He fulfilled his responsibilities with intelligence and grace, in spite of having less political experience.

Bernie is way more experienced than Obama was. He understands the politics of the Congress even though he doesn't play it. So if they are hinting that he's "entry-level", it's absurd.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:41 PM

8. K & R

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:44 PM

9. That paper is garbage

it is prawn of the right wing and controlled by fascist insects that are preying upon the lives of The People.

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Response to ronnykmarshall (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:54 PM

17. ...



But damn you too, cause now I want shrimp for dinner!

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:40 PM

30. mmmmmm shrimp!

I'm gonna make ramen w/ shrimp tomorrow. YUM!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:45 PM

10. K&R

Is there room for an entire newspaper under the bus?

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Response to mcar (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:50 PM

15. Remember this,

 

The Des Moines Register backed Hillary Clinton, while The BostonGlobe picked Barack Obama, in excerpts of Sunday's editorials posted on their papers' Web sites Saturday night.

The Iowa caucuses are January 3, and New Hampshire's primary follows five days later.

The Globe's editorial board dismissed concerns over the Illinois senator's relative lack of Washington experience.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/15/2008.endorsements/index.html?iref=newssearch

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:22 PM

23. Again, Sanders is no Barack Obama

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:24 PM

24. You're right, he's not funded by Wall Street or the pharmaceutical industry.

 

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:31 PM

28. You are going to be sad on Super Tuesday

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:41 PM

31. I admit this if Hillary wins Iowa it's over. So there's a good chance it's over immediately.

 

If he doesn't win I will support Hillary. If she loses to Trump I pay less in taxes so, I win personally. This is about my nieces and nephews.

Hillary continues the destruction of the country and planet, but at least she will pick a decent SC judge.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:50 PM

14. And RUBIO...she's in good company. n/t

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:53 PM

16. This is a big endorsement

Hillary Clinton has the needed knowledge, experience

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:03 PM

19. So far the trends of 08 are continuing.

 

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:17 PM

20. Hillary's debate revelation on the Flint water problem boosted

her leadership credentials.

"No other candidate can match the depth and breadth of her knowledge and experience." The Des Moines Register got it exactly right.

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Response to oasis (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:26 PM

27. A keen Eye for the obvious at best .

 

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:20 PM

21. "almost inconceivable that Sen Bernie Sanders

would be able to remake Washington in his own image."

Thanks to the Des Moines Register for that dose of common sense and reality.

"No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her experience."

Totally agreed!

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:41 PM

32. Well written factual endoresment.

Go Hillary!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:25 PM

26. All the key Chess pieces, none of the pawns

 

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:28 PM

34. For this thread

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:40 PM

35. Enjoy it!

 

It will be a different headline on the front page on the 2nd.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:41 PM

36. Didn't they endorse George W Bush. . .

 

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:36 AM

39. Every (D) they have endorsed has lost both Iowa and the Nomination.

 


Their batting average is 0.000.


Celebrate all you like. We don't want this one.



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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:26 AM

45. 1%ers got to stick together, don't you know? FFS, the Register is

 

owned by Gannett. You don't think the marching orders from Corporate haven't gone out??? If not, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. PM me for details

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:31 AM

46. "The presidency is not an entry-level position"

Do they know how condescending they sound?

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:27 AM

49. Bernie Sanders's fiction-filled campaign

This is a great editorial https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-fiction-filled-campaign/2016/01/27/cd1b2866-c478-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html

Mr. Sanders’s story continues with fantastical claims about how he would make the European social model work in the United States. He admits that he would have to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for his universal, Medicare-for-all health-care plan, and he promises massive savings on health-care costs that would translate into generous benefits for ordinary people, putting them well ahead, on net. But he does not adequately explain where those massive savings would come from. Getting rid of corporate advertising and overhead would only yield so much. Savings would also have to come from slashing payments to doctors and hospitals and denying benefits that people want.

He would be a braver truth-teller if he explained how he would go about rationing health care like European countries do. His program would be more grounded in reality if he addressed the fact of chronic slow growth in Europe and explained how he would update the 20th-century model of social democracy to accomplish its goals more efficiently. Instead, he promises large benefits and few drawbacks.

Meanwhile, when asked how Mr. Sanders would tackle future deficits, as he would already be raising taxes for health-care expansion and the rest of his program, his advisers claimed that more government spending “will result in higher growth, which will improve our fiscal situation.” This resembles Republican arguments that tax cuts will juice the economy and pay for themselves — and is equally fanciful.

The Washington Post is agreeing with Prof. Krugman's analysis

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