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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:35 AM Jan 2016

South Carolina Lawmaker SWITCHES Sides to ENDORSE Bernie Sanders


"..When Mr. Bamberg first endorsed Mrs. Clinton, he did not know much about Mr. Sanders, he said. He spent the last few weeks learning about the senator and listening to him speak during debates and events. “I don’t think I gave Senator Sanders his fair shake,” Mr. Bamberg said...."



The lawyer for the family of Walter L. Scott, who was fatally shot by a police officer in South Carolina, is withdrawing his support from Hillary Clinton and endorsing Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont on Monday afternoon.

The lawyer, State Representative Justin T. Bamberg of South Carolina, said he is switching sides because he believes Mrs. Clinton embodies establishment politics, while Mr. Sanders offers a bolder platform that will improve the lives of people in the South and across the country. The endorsement could help Mr. Sanders as he tries to win more support from black voters — especially in South Carolina — in the series of southern states that hold contests after Iowa and New Hampshire, where he is well positioned.

“Hillary Clinton is more a representation of the status quo when I think about politics or about what it means to be a Democrat,” said Mr. Bamberg, who initially endorsed Mrs. Clinton in December. “Bernie Sanders on the other hand is bold. He doesn’t think like everyone else. He is not afraid to call things as they are.”


In April in North Charleston, a police officer, Michael T. Slager, fatally shot Mr. Scott, 50, as he ran from the officer. Video of the shooting went viral and a grand jury in June indicted Mr. Slager on a murder charge. Mr. Bamberg represents Mr. Scott’s four children, two brothers, as well as his mother and father. The lawmaker said the family has not endorsed a presidential candidate, but Mr. Bamberg said he has spoken with several other South Carolina lawmakers about possibly supporting Mr. Sanders. Symone Sanders, a spokeswoman for Mr. Sanders’s campaign, said she and other staff members are trying to persuade other officials to endorse Mr. Sanders. She said the campaign plans to enlist the help of Mr. Bamberg to make their case to voters to coalesce around the Vermont senator.


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http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/south-carolina-lawmaker-switches-sides-to-endorse-bernie-sanders/
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South Carolina Lawmaker SWITCHES Sides to ENDORSE Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Segami Jan 2016 OP
now THAT is powerful! peacebird Jan 2016 #1
Go Bernie! JRLeft Jan 2016 #2
Clinton endorsers feeling the BERN of a revolutionary FIRE! berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #3
No, it's just a pleasant warming... jmowreader Jan 2016 #36
“..What I got from him.. Segami Jan 2016 #4
Because when you talk to Hillary about things she's passionate about cui bono Jan 2016 #52
I know this shouldn't enter into it, but Bamberg is quite handsome. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #5
All are welcomed in Bernie's home... Segami Jan 2016 #6
LOL SoapBox Jan 2016 #12
Hmmmm, I'll have to google Bamberg, Fawke Em! Duval Jan 2016 #10
Yes he is, and I'm not afraid to say it either. Brilliant lawyer, especially, too! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #18
Great news! Punkingal Jan 2016 #7
A fair shake Cartoonist Jan 2016 #8
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #9
Big K&R!! Duval Jan 2016 #11
Woo hoo! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #13
To the point. SoapBox Jan 2016 #14
Now he's voting with his head! pengu Jan 2016 #15
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #16
Holy Momentum!! This is way-awesome, better than an outright endorsement actually 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #17
YOU BETCHA, Holy Momentum... This Is Bigger Than Many ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #19
I guess I don't get just how big this is...care to elaborate? n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #51
Really? If You Don't Understand I'm Not Sure I Can Explain... ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #60
I suspect this is not as huge as you'd like to pretend nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #61
It reminds me of 2008, when the switch over started happening. nt artislife Jan 2016 #33
I didn't expect the first 'defection' to happen this fast. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #20
Nina Turner also switched her support from Clinton to Bernie. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #24
That would begin to negate the "superdelegate firewall" that Clinton supposedly has. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #27
Although she describes it as 'helping out while she decided'. Kentonio Jan 2016 #37
The first of many! Proserpina Jan 2016 #34
An important switch Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2016 #21
Expect this to happen all over this country! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #22
Nightmare dpatbrown Jan 2016 #23
South Carolina needs to wake up and go blue Hulk Jan 2016 #25
What has the Democratic establishment done for them? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #28
Thank you, Betty, for setting the record straight. saidsimplesimon Jan 2016 #32
That's a good question for every state and person inside the Democratic party... MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #53
Like this: cui bono Jan 2016 #54
That's a wonderful illustration of what I was trying to say. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #62
Yeah!I took that at the pre-Rose Parade area while we were getting ready to go march! cui bono Jan 2016 #64
Not a majority ISUGRADIA Jan 2016 #30
I stand corrected. Hulk Jan 2016 #50
SC Is not majority black. they do have a large black population JI7 Jan 2016 #45
K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #26
K & R AzDar Jan 2016 #29
After NH we're going to be reading a lot of stories like this, especially Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #31
Love your sig line! Proserpina Jan 2016 #35
Ready for Bernie! merrily Jan 2016 #38
There will be more of this... kenfrequed Jan 2016 #39
I think there will be a lot of this. nt silvershadow Jan 2016 #40
I'm getting really tired... CSStrowbridge Jan 2016 #41
What fantasy is that? blackspade Jan 2016 #43
Splitting hairs CSStrowbridge Jan 2016 #66
This is a deliciously ironic question. blackspade Jan 2016 #68
Wow. That is a switch! blackspade Jan 2016 #42
this is what you call the tide beginning to turn tomm2thumbs Jan 2016 #44
Wake up and smell the revolution! nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #46
+1 Go Vols Jan 2016 #48
Interesting. Now that's 114 state LEGISLATORS who HAVE endorsed Sanders. Just think.... George II Jan 2016 #47
Apparently he's not afraid the imaginary coersion, blowback, or threats. Sheepshank Jan 2016 #49
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #55
Fantastic! I see more and more of this happening as Sanders continues to rise. cui bono Jan 2016 #56
K&R stage left Jan 2016 #57
The Endorsement Primary Gothmog Jan 2016 #58
The avalanche is starting RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #59
No hiding place either :) Babel_17 Jan 2016 #63
Big K & R farleftlib Jan 2016 #65
K & R LWolf Jan 2016 #67
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
4. “..What I got from him..
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jan 2016
"....was not a presidential candidate talking to a state representative, or an old white man talking to a young black guy,” Mr. Bamberg said. “What I got from him was a man talking to a man about things that they are passionate about, and that was the tipping point for me...”

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
52. Because when you talk to Hillary about things she's passionate about
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jan 2016

it gets tiring hearing only about her becoming the first woman president.



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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
5. I know this shouldn't enter into it, but Bamberg is quite handsome.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jan 2016


In any case, glad to hear this!
 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
10. Hmmmm, I'll have to google Bamberg, Fawke Em!
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jan 2016

You are fun, did you know that?

All aside, this is good news for Sanders.

Cartoonist

(7,579 posts)
8. A fair shake
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think that was what Hillary meant.

Good to see that as people get to know Bernie, they join the parade. If it wasn't for name recognition, Hillary wouldn't have a chance. She'd be polling O'M numbers.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
14. To the point.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

"he believes Mrs. Clinton embodies establishment politics, while Mr. Sanders offers a bolder platform that will improve the lives of people in the South and across the country."

Not to mention his comment that she is "status quo".

I say, no more "status quo".

Welcome to being a Berner, Mr. Bamberg!

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. Holy Momentum!! This is way-awesome, better than an outright endorsement actually
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jan 2016

I love this!! Because it's a very valuable endorsement in it's own right AND, having switched
from Clinton to Sanders is even better, because it's emblematic of how the more people learn
about Bernie, the more support he gets,

Plus, the timing couldn't be better, with SC primary coming up after Iowa and NH.

Great news indeed!

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
19. YOU BETCHA, Holy Momentum... This Is Bigger Than Many
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jan 2016

realize! And the more who know, the BETTER it may get!

Let's keep rolling FORWARD! ONWARD, UPWARD! Awaaaaaaay we go!

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
60. Really? If You Don't Understand I'm Not Sure I Can Explain...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jan 2016

I'm NOT going to go tit for tat over an issue that SHOULD be obvious. Has something to do with the potential voters Bernie is able to attract.

I really think you know.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
20. I didn't expect the first 'defection' to happen this fast.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jan 2016

I guess it shows just how much momentum Sanders has been building.

My guess is that the number of changed endorsements will go the way of Sanders' polling numbers: up, up, and further up, with no plateau in sight.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
24. Nina Turner also switched her support from Clinton to Bernie.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016


I expect a LOT of people to switch. Especially after Bernie wins Iowa, NH and NEVADA.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
27. That would begin to negate the "superdelegate firewall" that Clinton supposedly has.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

I like that thought.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
22. Expect this to happen all over this country!
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jan 2016

One person at a time...Bernie's Building Blocks of a Political Revolution.

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
23. Nightmare
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

This is the Clinton campaign's worst nightmare. It will become more and more apparent with candidate supports them. The same man who has been fighting for equal justice since the 60s. The word is getting out in the A.A. community not only in South Carolina, but across the country. Once this happens it will be the beginning of the end for Clinton.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
25. South Carolina needs to wake up and go blue
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jan 2016

If the majority of South Carolinians are black, how the hell can they be voting repuKKKe year after year? They need to wake the fook up! What has the GOP done for the minority or poor vote in the last 35 year So?! Nothing!

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
28. What has the Democratic establishment done for them?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

If you want people to vote, don't give them the lesser of two evils! Give them someone GOOD to vote for.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
32. Thank you, Betty, for setting the record straight.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jan 2016
Give them someone GOOD to vote for.


I support Senator Sanders' platform, nothing but blue skies coming our way.

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MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
53. That's a good question for every state and person inside the Democratic party...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jan 2016

This explains why most people stopped voting, doesn't it?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
64. Yeah!I took that at the pre-Rose Parade area while we were getting ready to go march!
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

That should be a bumper sticker or a yard sign. I cropped the pic and added it to my sig.

.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
50. I stand corrected.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jan 2016

Honestly wasn't sure on that point, but figured I'd be set straight. Then I guess the fact that it's a majority white and repuKKKe explains their plight.

JI7

(93,614 posts)
45. SC Is not majority black. they do have a large black population
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jan 2016

But majority of the state is white and republican

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
31. After NH we're going to be reading a lot of stories like this, especially
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

from super delegates.

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
41. I'm getting really tired...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

I'm getting really tired of linking to facts that go against the Bernie Sanders supporters fantasies.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

It's not even close.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
43. What fantasy is that?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

That 538 can make up it's own grading scale based on the political elites' endorsments?

This chart doesn't even include local/state endorsements. How are those 'graded?'

And I would point this out, oh tired one:

Endorsements aren’t a foolproof predictor. In 2008 , more Democrats initially endorsed Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama (although Obama had some support). Still, a steady flow of endorsements for Obama after his early successes in states like Iowa and South Carolina helped to signal that he was an acceptable choice among party elites and presaged his success in other states.

CSStrowbridge

(267 posts)
66. Splitting hairs
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

You are splitting hairs when one side is beating the other my more than a order of magnitude.

And if you want to compare this year to 2008... Where's Edwards? It was a three-way race going into Iowa, where it is a two-horse race this time around.

Additionally, Obama was in the lead in the polls at this point in 2008.

"And I would point this out, oh tired one:

Endorsements aren’t a foolproof predictor."

THEN WHY THE FUCK DO BERNIE SANDERS FANS KEEP BRINGING THEM UP?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
68. This is a deliciously ironic question.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jan 2016

THEN WHY THE FUCK DO BERNIE SANDERS FANS KEEP BRINGING THEM UP?


tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
44. this is what you call the tide beginning to turn
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jan 2016

and tides cannot be paddled away with words

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. Interesting. Now that's 114 state LEGISLATORS who HAVE endorsed Sanders. Just think....
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jan 2016

.....only 467 more to equal Clinton's list of endorsements by state legislators.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
49. Apparently he's not afraid the imaginary coersion, blowback, or threats.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jan 2016

seems to blow apart that stupid talking point.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
56. Fantastic! I see more and more of this happening as Sanders continues to rise.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

Especially after he takes Iowa and NH.

SANDERSTORM!!!


.

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
58. The Endorsement Primary
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jan 2016

I am amused by Sanders supporters who want to talk about endorsement. Nate Silver's 538 website is keeping track of the endorsements that count http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

In presidential primaries, endorsements have been among the best predictors of which candidates will succeed and which will fail. So we’re keeping track.

Hillary Clinton 459
Bernie Sanders 2
Martin O'Malley 1

Before any votes are cast, presidential candidates compete for the support of influential members of their party, especially elected officials like U.S. representatives, senators and governors. During the period known as the “invisible primary,” these “party elites” seek to coalesce around the candidates they find most acceptable as their party’s nominee. Over the past few decades, when these elites have reached a consensus on the best candidate, rank-and-file voters have usually followed.

Of course, not all endorsements are equally valuable. We use a simple weighting system: 10 points for governors, 5 points for U.S. senators and 1 point for U.S. representatives (there are roughly five times as many representatives as senators and 10 times as many representatives as governors).

These are the endorsements that will matter
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
59. The avalanche is starting
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jan 2016

Pretty soon it will be too late for the pebbles to vote.

(an offside quote from Babylon 5)

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