Obama just tried to undercut Sanders...how big of a bus do we need?

[hill2016]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/01/25/make-no-mistake-obama-just-tried-to-undercut-bernie-sanders/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

THRUSH: I mean, when you watch this, what do you — do you see any elements of what you were able to accomplish in what Sanders is doing?

OBAMA: Well, there’s no doubt that Bernie has tapped into a running thread in Democratic politics that says: Why are we still constrained by the terms of the debate that were set by Ronald Reagan 30 years ago? You know, why is it that we should be scared to challenge conventional wisdom and talk bluntly about inequality and, you know, be full-throated in our progressivism? And, you know, that has an appeal and I understand that.

I think that what Hillary presents is a recognition that translating values into governance and delivering the goods is ultimately the job of politics, making a real-life difference to people in their day-to-day lives. I don’t want to exaggerate those differences, though, because Hillary is really idealistic and progressive. You’d have to be to be in, you know, the position she’s in now, having fought all the battles she’s fought and, you know, taken so many, you know, slings and arrows from the other side. And Bernie, you know, is somebody who was a senator and served on the Veterans’ Committee and got bills done. And so the—

THRUSH: But it sounds like you’re not buying the — you’re not buying the sort of, the easy popular dichotomy people are talking about, where he’s an analog for you and she is herself?

OBAMA: No. No.

[LondonReign2]

1. Can you go back to posting how Bernie just wants to give everyone something for free?

That was fun

[hill2016]

4. my biggest problem with Bernie

isn't necessarily that he wants to give out free things but he isn't honest about who is paying and how much.

[LondonReign2]

5. Thanks for your thoughts Speaker Ryan

[Tarc]

13. You're welcome, Senator Cruz

[LondonReign2]

24. As the OP was blantently espousing right wing views, I think the comparison

to Mr. Ryan is pretty accurate if not even mild. I kinda thought right wing drivel was frowned on at DU. Does having an H avatar change that?

[Autumn]

19. hill, here it is. JFK: "Let's go to the moon!". Sanders: "free college free health care!"

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JFK: "Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."
Sanders: "Ask what you can get from your country!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511061225

Nothing there about your concern as to who's paying for it. Sounds a lot like Rubioand other pukes after the Democratic debate though.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/256880-rubio-dem-debate-about-free-stuff

"Free college education, free college education for people illegally in this country, free healthcare, free everything."

And at another link there is Trump, I won't post that one but it's easy to find.

Frontrunner Donald Trump agreed with Rubio, separately live tweeting about how Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb, and Lincoln Chafee spent the entire night discussing all the free stuff they were going to give away, including ObamaCare benefits and tuition breaks for illegal immigrants.

[newfie11]

21. Germany has free college

Even for non Germans. My Grandson could go to college there and no tuition.

[hill2016]

25. sorry

isn't this Sanders' platform? Free health care and free college?

[Autumn]

27. No, that's just two things that will help lower income Americans. But you knew that before

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you spouted off like a republican using the same phrases Trump and Rubio use. You should be proud, you are a real Hillary supporter. And a bit ignorant when it comes to taxes. Tax dollars funded your JFK's "Let's go to the moon!"

JFK: "Let's go to the moon!". Sanders: "free college free health care!"

JFK: "Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."
Sanders: "Ask what you can get from your country!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511061225

[2pooped2pop]

26. Lol

The majority of their posts are direct attacks on Bernie supporters. I guess that's wheat one has to do when the candidate opposing their candidate has so little negative bits to find.

[ram2008]

2. I don't see anything wrong with that statement

Nor do I see it as an endorsement of Hillary.

[liberal N proud]

3. He didn't pick your guy

[Autumn]

6. Pretty big because of all the people who want" free stuff", you know the takers are already there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511061225

However I don't know of any Bernie supporters who even remotely thinks Bernie is an analog for Obama.

[Schema Thing]

7. *You* just tried to undercut Bernie, using words from the POTUS that are pointedly NOT

undercutting Bernie.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. Subautobus Obamaque

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. A bunch of BULLSHIT! Anything to attack this great president. Sit down!

[Vattel]

10. No, he emphaiszed both Hillary's idealism and Bernie's pragmaticism

after talking about Bernie's idealism and Hillary's pragmatism. He is just being nice to both.

[Android3.14]

11. Oh looky, more unquestioning obedience from the right

Some people should just go jump in the lake.

[KingFlorez]

12. They won't attack Obama

That is a bridge too far that would actually cause damage to Sanders.

[Fumesucker]

16. Attacking Obama was for Hillary to do...

[Autumn]

20. How bad does it damage Hillary? You must have missed some of her actions in 08 and recent ones.

[brooklynite]

14. But two weeks ago we were told that Obama was practically "hinting" at endorsing Sanders...

...boy, this election is complicated.

[Armstead]

18. One thing we agree on

"...boy, this election is complicated."

That's an understatement. One of the most complicated I've seen on all sides and in both parties.

[nc4bo]

15. What's the BFD here........am I missing something?

POTUS also flew that full throated populist flag way back when......(or have we forgotten that?) Then did the classic new-Dem crab walk to the right later on and continued it after he was in office.

I'm not mad at POTUS, it's his style and he's a really good man AND he is the FIRST BLACK POTUS - but just how far did that bipartisan bullshit get us?

I'm glad he has the superhuman ability to regrow fingers and hands, I'm sure he's pulled back a stump several times attempting to make deals with that Congressional zoo.

Clinton isn't much different than Obama except she squealed left after she took that right and is now straddling a fence on which way to go next.

Bernie? Bernie is Bernie.

At least that's my twisted way of seeing things. YMMV

[Betty Karlson]

17. Ask Obama if you may borrow the bus he used in 2010:

it had so many folks under it. Proponents of Single Payer, the LGBT community, the entire left wing of the Democratic Party, anyone else whom Rahm (Protect-The-Killers,-Not-The-Victims) Emmanuel deemed to be "f*cking retarded" pony-wanters...

[cali]

22. No bus at all, hill fan

[stonecutter357]

23. K&R!