Hillary Clinton's FIREWALL Starts To Crumble

[Segami]

Chris Covert @ckcovert1

South Carolina Lawmaker Switches Sides to Endorse Bernie Sanders.

#SCforBernie Must read:

http://www.nytimes.com/

Lawyer for Walter Scott Family Switches Sides to Endorse Bernie Sanders

The lawyer for the family of Walter L. Scott, who was fatally shot by a police officer in South Carolina, is withdrawing his support from Hillary Clinton and endorsing Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont on Monday afternoon. The lawyer, State Representative Justin T. Bamberg of South Carolina, said he is switching sides because he believes Mrs. Clinton embodies establishment politics, while Mr. Sanders offers a bolder platform that will improve the lives of people in the South and across the country.

....

“Hillary Clinton is more a representation of the status quo when I think about politics or about what it means to be a Democrat,” said Mr. Bamberg, who initially endorsed Mrs. Clinton in December. “Bernie Sanders on the other hand is bold. He doesn’t think like everyone else. He is not afraid to call things as they are.”


Mr. Bamberg said he eventually decided to support Mr. Sanders after the two men spoke for 20 minutes last week on Martin Luther King’s Birthday about the shooting death of Mr. Scott. They also discussed Mr. Sanders’s plans for criminal justice reform, for creating new policies for police departments and about the struggles of working-class people. “What I got from him was not a presidential candidate talking to a state representative, or an old white man talking to a young black guy,” Mr. Bamberg said. “What I got from him was a man talking to a man about things that they are passionate about, and that was the tipping point for me.”

And so it begins...


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/lawyer-for-walter-scott-family-switches-sides-to-endorse-bernie-sanders/

[Wilms]

1. Sandblasted. n/t

[Dawson Leery]

2. The only firewall I’m aware of the Sanders Campaign breaking...

The only firewall I’m aware of the Sanders Campaign breaking is the one at the DNC that held Hillary’s voter data.

[Motown_Johnny]

8. Another dishonest post from a Clinton supporter. Why am I not Shocked?

The company that was supposed to have the firewall up didn't. The Sanders campaign did not break a firewall.


Sad how dishonesty seems to be the first thing one side goes to in order to try and make a point. Also sad that it has nothing to do with someone who had endorsed Hillary withdrawing that endorsement and now supporting Bernie.

Just sad, on so many levels.

[bvar22]

150. That poster KNOWS it is a Lie.

He has been informed by several members, myself included, that no one on Bernie's campaign
"hacked through a firewall" or "Broke through the firewall".
At the time, there was NO firewall.

Best to let this one die on his own fabricated hook.

[John Poet]

9. Good thing it wasn't Hillary's illegal private email server.

It probably HAD no firewall.

[libdem4life]

21. Right. We're discovering that it had many work arounds known to just a few.

And they are still pondering Pagliani...the Server Guy...and a couple of other close staffers that routinely used these pathways to be hacked into. They did get the next shoe to wait to drop until after the first 2-3 primaries. Can't have these things mucking up the Penny Lane to the Nomination

[Fawke Em]

52. If there were work arounds, trust me, any competent hacker could get through.

I work in cyber security. I see it every day.

[libdem4life]

55. Very true. Thus, the issue may be very much bigger than we can imagine. I believe

that other than the article I read, the FBI knows a great deal more. Why is it postponed conveniently for a month until the day before Super Tuesday?

They are "just now" looking into her IT person, Pagliani...just now? Oh, his servers were scrubbed as were most of her close aids. Why?

I know, Bernie absolved her of guilt...but he bought the MSM version...nothing to see here. The FBI does not agree. So, we shall see.

[questionseverything]

96. he did not absolve her, he said there is an ongoing investigation that will go where it goes

only that he wanted to discuss policy ideas

[libdem4life]

97. In their political battle for Presidency he DID. He said, enough about the emails.

He was a gentleman. She smiled graciously. We haven't heard from him again. EOS

The FBI is still on it, to be sure. No announcement has been made, but it will have to be some time.

[questionseverything]

100. during the debate he did say..enough of the e-mails but

in the interview after the debate he mentioned the fbi investigaton

if bernie has a fault it seems to be he is too nice but i will take that fault over others

[libdem4life]

104. I didn't see that, but it's not like everybody doesn't know and if it's conveniently put off

until the day before Super Tuesday, it kind of stinks.

[questionseverything]

106. it is definitely on going mess for the dems

IT guys do not plead the 5th for nothing

[libdem4life]

107. and try to wipe their own and other's servers...not a chance.

[Champion Jack]

86. badda boom! badda Bing!

[VulgarPoet]

91. And it was Special Access Program stuff found too

if I'd done some shit like that with my clearance, do you know how fast my ass would be warming a bench in Leavenworth? I'd have been turnin' big rocks to small rocks no less than a week after that news broke.

[hrmjustin]

11. Well played!

[billhicks76]

35. You're Misinformed...Again

Can't hide the truth forever though.

[hrmjustin]

38. How so?

[Fawke Em]

53. Bernie's staff didn't hack through the firewall.

The company that was supposed to be maintaining it dropped it.

Therefore, the poster's comeback wasn't well played. It was wrong.

[hrmjustin]

54. That's right they did not hack it.

They just took proprietary information.

[George II]

58. And coincidentally just days after the "breach" Sanders started gaining in NH, Iowa, and....

....a couple of other early states. How come is that?

[hrmjustin]

60. But they said they did not download the information.

They wouldn't lie.

[beam me up scottie]

62. LMAO!

[George II]

79. That's all you've got?

[bvf]

92. "How come is that?"?

Is that a regionalism of some sort, or is someone channeling Sarah Palin?

[beam me up scottie]

93. I laughed at that ridiculous conspiracy theory the first time they floated it here.

And it's even funnier this time around.

[bvf]

94. Truly.

It's as if I had written a personal letter to the board of Goldman Sachs, asking them not to support Clinton, and they were like, "OK," and then Hillary dropped out of the race.

[George II]

112. If you're referring to the data breach by the Sanders campaign, it's not a "conspiracy theory".....

....it's been well documented.

Although the Sanders people claimed they were only in the database for "a few minutes" to see "how bad the exposure was", in fact they had FOUR people snooping around for about 4-1/2 hours. And although they claimed they "never downloaded anything", in fact they downloaded and saved targeted Clinton data from all four of the early states as well as a number of other states.

The logs have been posted here and on the internet. Check them out. If you do so objectively you'll be amazed at what Uretsky, "csmith_bernie", "csanchez_mernie", "anikseresht", and "rdrapkinNH" actually accessed on the DNC and Hillary databases.

[Mnpaul]

123. It's a bus load of fail

going round and round in a circle. None of it gets them anywhere but they keep trying. You would think they would try something new but no.

[beam me up scottie]

124. Grasping at straws, they just can't believe Bernie is THAT popular.

They've been screaming "WHATS HAPPENING???" since last summer.

[George II]

109. You seem to be full of questions. Interesting.

[bvf]

116. Yes, questions are bad

and only serve to enrich the guy who copyrighted the question mark.

[bvar22]

101. ...and NOW the "excuses" for Hillary's Big Fail start to appear.

Doesn't matter if they are true or not.
A Hillary supporter can tell a Big Lie,
and get Kudos and "well played" from the other fans for whom TRUTH means nothing.

[beam me up scottie]

103. Just like 2008.

The dog whistles were applauded.

[George II]

110. Dog whistle? You throw that term around a lot. What in your frame of reference is a........

...."dog whistle"?

[beam me up scottie]

111. lmgtfy.com

[George II]

113. Once again, that's all you've got?

[beam me up scottie]

114. You mean once again your attempt to get someone to post a link that will result in a hide failed?

Yes, it did.

The dog whistles used by Team Clinton in 2008 are a matter of record and the anti-Semitic posts by Hillary supporters here and elsewhere are also a matter of record.

If anyone wants to see the posts/screenshots they can pm me.

[George II]

118. Ah, here we go again dwelling on something taken OUT OF CONTEXT from another site. And....

....you've been asked a dozen times what is "anti-Semitic" about what you claim people said. You have yet to answer, most likely because you can't. Sadly you make up your "dog whistles" as you go along to suit the discussion.

Cue the screen shot in 3-2-1......

[beam me up scottie]

119. Explain how accusing Bernie of being funded by Israel isn't anti-Semitic?

I've asked you repeatedly and still no answer. Are you actually defending that claim?

I posted two separate ops explaining anti-Semitism, why don't you read them?

And do you really need me to spell out WHY accusing Jewish Americans of disloyalty to America is anti-Semitic?

[George II]

121. The fact is that the statement you're referring to (which is what, about six months old now?)....

....NEVER accused Sanders of being funded by Israel. NEVER!

If you want to spell it out, be my guest, but make sure you include the ACTUAL statement that you just referred to AND the context in which it was stated. And if it doesn't explicitly say "Sanders is funded by Israel", please explain how you came to that conclusion.

You've done this countless times, and you've been asked each and every time what specifically was said about Sanders being "funded by Israel", and you've failed to do so each and every time.

So, now you've offered, finally, let's see you "spell it out"! But be clear about that spelling, please.

[beam me up scottie]

122. Don't be coy, they accused him of having a "nest egg" in Israel.

And I've posted the screnshot many times - the comments outraged DUers who were disgusted by them, it's known as an anti-Semitic site for good reason, not just based on my word.

The only people who seem to think that kind of bigotry is acceptable are its members.

You keep trying to get me to post the screenshot but both cali and I have learned not to let you "prod" us into hides.

Anyone who wants to know what I'm referring to can pm me although I'm fairly certain most of the board already knows.

[George II]

125. No "they" didn't. No one accused Sanders of having a "nest egg" in Israel. NO ONE!

The fact is it NEVER was said. So, if it really WAS said, why are you unable to present it here? I can answer that - it would belie your false accusations. And yet you still refuse to explain how you arrived at that bogus conclusion.

Now, you offered to "spell it out", why not do so?

[merrily]

127. What? Many DUers (and Manny DUers) saw it, including me.

And other anti-Semitic posts.

Excluding the public from the forums didn't give us amnesia.

[beam me up scottie]

128. Then what were all of those DUers so angry about?

Did they all have a group hallucination and just imagine those screenshots?

Your repeated attempts to get me to post the it are hilarious.

[George II]

130. Why are you asking me? I don't know, ask them.

I repeat, your claim that Sanders was accused of having a "nestegg in Israel" is 100% false. The fact that you can't (or won't) elaborate is proof that what you've complaining about never happened.

Sorry, until you "spell it out" as you offered, that claim lacks credibility.

Have a good evening.

[beam me up scottie]

131. Woopsie! There it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1073256

[polly7]

129. Riiiiiight George.

[George II]

132. So where is the accusation that he's got a nest egg in Israel? HUH? Nowhere!

[polly7]

133. Can't you read ?? nt.

[George II]

135. I read perfectly, you?

[polly7]

136. Yeah, I read just fine.

That ignorant bit in the screenshot regarding his 'nest egg' (in Israel) jumped out at me. Why are you missing it?

[beam me up scottie]

139. Right here:

I knew there has to be a connect between Israel and Sanders. Deductive reasoning told me that's the only thing that would motivate a 73 year old man to step out from his quiet role for 25 years and take on someone like Hillary clinton. Bet Bernie's got a nice retirement nest egg waiting for him and it's not in a bank in Vermont. Chime in here please. I know some of US/Israel ties but much I also do not understand. Thanks hillshouse.

[George II]

134. As I asked Polly, where is the accusation that Sanders has a nest egg in Israel? NOWHERE!

[polly7]

137. I am Polly. I answered you. nt.

[beam me up scottie]

140. "I knew there has to be a connect between israel and Sanders"

Bet Bernie's got a nice retirement nest egg waiting for him and it's not in a bank in Vermont.

[beam me up scottie]

138. Let me transcribe that:

I knew there has to be a connect between israel and Sanders. Deductive reasoning told me that's the only thing that would motivate a 73 year old man to step out from his quiet role for 25 years and take on someone like Hillary clinton. Bet Bernie's got a nice retirement nest egg waiting for him and it's not in a bank in Vermont. Chime in here please. I know some of US/Israel ties but much I also do not understand. Thanks hillshouse.

Yep that's an accusation of having a nest egg in Israel/being disloyal to America.

Classic anti-Semitism.

[George II]

142. Not at all. How you arrive at "not in a bank in Vermont" means Israel is subjective projection.

The fact is, YOU are the one drawing that conclusion, not the writer you're quoting.

[beam me up scottie]

144. Because he specifically said TIES TO ISRAEL.

You think he was referring to another Israel?

[Autumn]

141. Yes George. Sanders was accused of having a "nest egg" in Israel. A screen shot was taken

before the site was closed up. As to presenting it here, the last time it was posted it was hidden. Plenty of people saw it.

[George II]

143. No, totally false, and the screen shot has been posted here, it says nothing of the kind!

[beam me up scottie]

145. TIES TO ISRAEL/NEST EGG/I KNEW THERE HAD TO BE A CONNECT

What do you think he was referring to, a man named Israel?

[polly7]

146. Did you read it from top to bottom?

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[Autumn]

147. You don't see "Bernie's got a nice retirement nest egg waiting for him & it's not in a bank in VT?

The screen shot in post# 129 in this very thread?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511064357#post129

[polly7]

148. George?

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

Where you at?

[Kalidurga]

76. Cuz Bernie is so awesome all he needs is 45 minutes worth of data to take down HHS Hillary

Now if Bernie had been fighting with the cold war it would have been over in a week. He would hack the Russians and bam war is over.

[George II]

78. He had FOUR guys trolling Clinton's data for a total of four hours and 26 minutes.

The logs are out there.

[Kalidurga]

81. Well this is still pretty impressive.

If his canvassers have used that info to take down Hillary. I want them on national security issues. Oh and send some to hack ISIS they will be gone in a month.

[George II]

83. Sorry, they "haven't taken down Hillary", she's still standing proudly and will STILL get....

....the Presidential nomination of the Democratic Party. Despite the Sanders campaign shenanigans.

[Kalidurga]

85. Well you have a few more days to hold onto the dream.

[bvar22]

149. How come is that?

The better candidate with the better position on the issues usually does better in Iowa and NH.
Hillary's slide to the bottom started well before the firwall non-issue.

If anything, American people who own computers KNOW what a Firewall is,
and know haw to turn it off....so this lie about "hacking through a Firewall is just plain laughable.
...but keep going wit that non-issue. It seems to be working.......for Bernie.
Hillary is still sliding into the bottomless pit.
Keep up the good work!!!

[Fawke Em]

59. Actually, they were handed it.

When the company in charge of protecting it doesn't do their due process in securing the information, the onus is on the company.

When your health information is stolen from your hospital's server because of negligence, the Office for Civil Rights puts your hospital's name on the "Wall of Shame" for being remiss.

[hrmjustin]

61. Lol handed it!

That is a kind interpretation.

[Fawke Em]

64. No -that's the only interpretation.

It was quite obvious they gathered the info doing routine searches and then tested it. They even gave it obvious names, like "NOT Sanders." Yeah - that's what I'd call something I was trying to hide.

The fact is that stability of the firewall was up to NGP VAN and they failed.

[hrmjustin]

67. Really? The only interpretation?

Again you are being too kind.

I call it theft.

[Fawke Em]

69. Good luck with that.

I work in cyber security. It's hard to "steal" what was essentially given to you by the company that is supposed to be keeping it from you.

For it to be theft, they would have had to literally hack it. They didn't. They were doing searches and saw the information because NGP VAN was negligent.

[hrmjustin]

70. Then why did he apologize and fire his staffers?

[LanternWaste]

95. Dogmatic myopia often compels us to deny additional possibilities.

Dogmatic myopia often compels us to deny additional possibilities, and rationalize data theft as little more than an "oops".

Not that you would deny possibilities or rationalize data theft... that would lead me to believe your dogmatic and myopic, and we certainly can't allege that.

[George II]

80. Yeah, "they were handed it". Sorry, that's not how it works.

[billhicks76]

82. That CEO Is A Close Family Friend Of The Clintons

And look into his other ties. Works well with defense and intelligence.

[George II]

120. Yeah, if a bank manager forgets to lock the front door of the branch at night and...

....somebody walks in and steals their cash, the robber isn't a criminal, it's the bank manager's fault.

Bizarre interpretation of the situation.

As for your ill-advised analogy, maybe the hospital's name goes on some "wall of shame", but the one who STOLE the health information goes to jail.

[Segami]

14. You're the only one left whispering such tripe...

If Hillary had anything they could pin on Bernie, she would be calling a breaking news press conference equipped with evidentiary PowerPoint presentations scheduled on primetime. .....But, you seem to think you know more than they do.......really?

[KingFlorez]

15. Indeed

[beam me up scottie]

16. Psst! Probably not a good idea to bring up internet security when discussing Hillary.

[pangaia]

39. I love how quick your mind is.

[beam me up scottie]

40. Hey back atcha!

[scscholar]

49. There's nothing wrong...

with a nonsensical response to a nonsensical question.

[beam me up scottie]

51. Nonsensical?

That post was a complete fabrication, no one from Bernie's campaign broke down any firewalls.

If I posted what I really thought it would get hidden so I went with a little humour.

[Fawke Em]

63. The hipocracy is mind-numbing.

They're arguing above about how "awful" it was that Bernie's team viewed Clinton's "proprietary" information after NGP VAN dropped the security ball, but don't seem a bit concerned that Clinton's negligence may have allowed hackers to view NATIONAL SECURITY SECRETS.



The onus for the Sanders/Clinton data leak is on NGP VAN for failure to secure the info and the DNC for hiring them. The onus for any security breach of Clinton's computer is on her and the company she hired to service it.

Ugh.

[beam me up scottie]

65. Right? And they're still blaming Hillary's loss in the polls on the BREACH!

They need to take that to creative speculation.

[Fawke Em]

68. I'll tell you this, if that increase in his poll numbers is as a result

of seeing a few names of hard-core Clinton supporters on a server, then they should just give up because, apparently, Bernie's canvassers have persuasive abilities beyond the average human to make those people flip!

[Kalidurga]

77. Ha ha that's what I told the first conspiracy theorist I saw.

And someone in this thread too.

[Ivan Kaputski]

89. LMAO Perfect.

[libdem4life]

24. Not to worry...you will be aware soon. It got postponed conveniently for a month.

A number of internet "work arounds" kept the insecure server able to receive whatever was needed.

It's the things in the rear view mirror concept...and it's not Bernie who is seen...it's the FBI.

[Fawke Em]

56. You know what really bothers me (besides the obvious unconcern for security)?

That Huma Abedin is involved. I always liked her, despite who she works for.

[libdem4life]

57. Me, too. She has a delightful energy about her...only saw her once.

[Fawke Em]

66. My first husband is Palestinian and a non-practicing Muslim.

My son is half Arabic.

My husband now is a non-practicing Jew.

My daughter is half Jewish.

That she and Anthony Weiner fell in love and married was so sweet to me, given my background.

[libdem4life]

71. You're a regular United Nations there...LOL...yes, I thought so too.

My major was Sociology/Anthropology and grad work in Theology so all this is right up my alley. You got yours from marriage and life, and I got mine from University. We're of straight German ancestry. The more diverse, the more we learn about others and ourselves.

Peace.

[INdemo]

26. You sound very

Angry..

Are you a campaign operative sent here by Clara McCassshill?

[billhicks76]

34. BS

We all know what happened now. Clinton refused to fix and so did her old friends who created software because she was stealing data.

[billhicks76]

37. More Clintonite Dishonesty

It will lose her another election.

[ashling]

41. Not so fast

Cute remark and all, but that whole incident stemmed from the DNC contractor's firewall being down in the first place - not breached.

but a cute - though slightly disingenuous -remark nonetheless

[NurseJackie]

43. Thank you!!

[asuhornets]

50. Good one!!!

Had that been the other way around and it was Clinton folks who breached Sander's voter data, It would still be trending in Gen Disc: Prim.

[jillan]

88. Oh I think that went both ways! All of the sudden in Dec I started getting email & mail from Hillary

I never signed up! How did she get my email address AND my home address? I sure didn't give it to them.

[PatrynXX]

90. you let me know who stole his info first

other than the Hillary Plant who knew how to break it...

[KingFlorez]

3. Sure it is

[Jefferson23]

4. Very nice.

*He is not afraid to call things as they are.”

Voters seem to be increasingly aware that Clinton's message is
essentially saying the lobby groups are more powerful than she is.

I wonder why she finds that to be a reason to vote for her.

[closeupready]

6. "I'm a wimp; vote for me" isn't a winning campaign theme?

Who'd a thunk?

[Jefferson23]

10. I interpret her message of realism as a cover for her connections to

lobby money.

[closeupready]

13. Right. She won't bite the hand that feeds her.

No question about it.

[Jefferson23]

27. The choice before voters is a candidate who hasn't gone down that road and

one who has. If he can run a campaign without it, why didn't she?

A question of trust and commitment...that's what is before the voters
to decide.

[Ed Suspicious]

18. It's all very convenient, isn't it. The best candidate money could buy.

[Jefferson23]

29. I don't know if enough voters believe as we do..I have seen enough of the

damage from lobby money, but I remain hopeful for Sanders.

I noticed Obama decided to speak about each candidate. I was
surprised since he said he would refrain..the timing is interesting
too. Yet I am not convinced his argument will be persuasive in
Iowa..but else where it could do great damage to Sanders.

In solidarity for the win, Ed.

[book_worm]

5. So will this endorsement be enough to win SC for Bernie?

[senz]

7. Plus, Sandra Bland's family are Bernie supporters.

It's a very moving read that tells so much about Bernie: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251684857

[FloridaBlues]

17. Hardly is that fire wall cracking only in your minds

Wow one State Rep changes his mind.
When she wins Iowa and poss NH you will need to change your fire wall

[George II]

19. Didn't you already POST this earlier? And from the same ource, too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511062354


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/south-carolina-lawmaker-switches-sides-to-endorse-bernie-sanders/

So little positive to say about Sanders' campaign that you have to make duplicate posts?

[Segami]

20. NO.

[George II]

22. All you did was change the subject line, but the source is the same NYT article and the substance...

....is pretty much the same.

Why?

[Segami]

25. This is NOT the same post

as you claim.....check the link provided.

There is a graphic and Twitter post link absent from the first NYT post.

Does that clarify it for you now?

[Duval]

32. Some seem to have problems reading.

[George II]

84. No, but some seem to have problems with accepting defeat graciously.

[bvar22]

105. Which defeat is that?

I am unaware of any defeat in the Sanders Campaign,
however, Hillary has suffered many loses in the polls,
and big endorsements are switching to Bernie.

So help me out here. What are these "defeats" which you are gloating over.

[George II]

108. "big endorsements are switching to Bernie"

One STATE Representative (not even State Senator!) has switched, and you say "big endorsements are switching to Bernie"!!

By the latest tally, that means Clinton is "down" to 580 endorsements from state Representatives and Senators, and Bernie is up to a whopping 115!! Woo hooo.... "big" endorsements are switching left and right.

So, at this rate by the time the convention rolls around she'll have a mere 579 to Sanders' 116. What a surge!

[cui bono]

46. Why don't you go alert on it?

Isn't that your specialty?

How about saying something of substance?

.

[SCantiGOP]

23. I live in Columbia, SC

I'm active in the State Democratic Party.

This is hardly news here, while it is on par with the Second Coming at DU.
Clinton has the backing of 98%+ of the influential AA leaders in this state, and that community is the major voting bloc in the Primary.

[litlbilly]

48. sounds like you mean 98% of the 1% in SC. Lets see how that works out

[SCantiGOP]

72. Dear litibilly:

Read it again. It is 98% of African Americans. I realize that is an exaggeration, but I think its possible Clinton could get 80-90 of the AA vote. That's not the 1% - it's the majority of Dem primary voters

[litlbilly]

74. Not gonna happen. Hillary will not get that many of the AA vote when it's SC's turn.

[SCantiGOP]

87. As if now she has:

The backing of Cong Jim Clyburn (3rd ranking Dem in Congress) every living ex-Dem governor and US Senator (Hollings) and, according to the last survey, all but 3 of the members of the SC Legislative caucus. Conservative estimates are that she will get at least 80% of the AA vote.

[questionseverything]

98. sc has a terrible voting system so no one will ever really know what the vote count is

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7899

The results appear to be artificial, or 'arti-factual', as some people might say. As we've done our analysis, it just doesn't hold up," said Ludwig.

Speaking to the oft-cited fallacy being forwarded in the media that both candidates were equally unknown entities, who each did little or no campaigning, Ludwig re-iterated what Rawl has been saying in his recent media appearances. "There is an inherent presumption that these were equivalent campaigns. We campaigned, the other guy just simply didn't."

Rawl has said he'd raised hundreds of thousands of dollars during the campaign, appeared at some 80 campaign events all across the state since March 1st, and had hundreds of campaign volunteers. By way of contrast, Greene didn't have a campaign website, had no volunteers, no campaign literature, and doesn't even own a computer or a cell phone.

I pointed Ludwig to a number of academic findings in regard to the state's Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, usually touch-screen) voting systems which he hadn't yet known of, and discussed my concerns about the sensitive memory cards used in those systems for both programming the ballot and recording votes.

As manipulation of the memory cards are one of the direct ways to potentially manipulate the machines, I've been very troubled by reports received by the campaign that some pollworkers were said to have been repeatedly accessing and swapping out memory cards throughout Election Day. Ludwig says that the cards have yet to be examined or quarantined. I strongly advised, as I have since first reporting this story, that someone get a court order for that immediately.

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////

so yes the vote count could be anything

[SCantiGOP]

115. Oh, I'm sure you are right

But, the vote is still going to count isn't it?

[questionseverything]

117. if alvin greene a homeless guy without a cell phone can beat

a popular retired democratic judge with a huge campaign, volunteers & offices.....and the democratic party if sc did nothing about it......then yea i would say hc could "win" there too

so since you said you worked closely with the sc dems...were you part of the bunch that did not back rawl?

[madokie]

30. And so it goes

“What I got from him was not a presidential candidate talking to a state representative, or an old white man talking to a young black guy,” Mr. Bamberg said. “What I got from him was a man talking to a man about things that they are passionate about, and that was the tipping point for me.”

We're going to win this one and its about time we the people started to win some of these elections.

[Helen Borg]

31. Hillary is crumbling!

[99th_Monkey]

33. K&R _ Love this endorsement. Woot.! n/t

[Victor_c3]

36. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care who endorses either

Well, that might not be true if say NAMBLA endorsed a candidate. I'd be worried about that endorsement, but I like to think I can make my own informed decision on who to vote for.

Am I missing something? Why do endorsements matter?

[Hiraeth]

42. " ... a man talking to a man ... " let that resonate.

[Gothmog]

44. The Endorsement Primary

I am amused by Sanders supporters who want to talk about endorsement. Nate Silver's 538 website is keeping track of the endorsements that count http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

In presidential primaries, endorsements have been among the best predictors of which candidates will succeed and which will fail. So we’re keeping track.

Hillary Clinton 459
Bernie Sanders 2
Martin O'Malley 1

Before any votes are cast, presidential candidates compete for the support of influential members of their party, especially elected officials like U.S. representatives, senators and governors. During the period known as the “invisible primary,” these “party elites” seek to coalesce around the candidates they find most acceptable as their party’s nominee. Over the past few decades, when these elites have reached a consensus on the best candidate, rank-and-file voters have usually followed.

Of course, not all endorsements are equally valuable. We use a simple weighting system: 10 points for governors, 5 points for U.S. senators and 1 point for U.S. representatives (there are roughly five times as many representatives as senators and 10 times as many representatives as governors).

These are the endorsements that will matter

[SCantiGOP]

73. Gothmog:

Several thumbs up.

[Gothmog]

75. Thanks

[jalan48]

45. It's sad that the woman with the best chance of becoming the first female POTUS

is on the wrong side of historical change.

[cui bono]

47. and of ethics and morality.

[Beacool]

152. Yes, because electing an elderly white guy screams "historical change".

[jalan48]

153. Yes-an elderly white woman will make all the difference. Not.

[Tarc]

99. Well, if there's one area in which Camp Sanders has a proven track record...

...it is the ability to breach firewalls.

[merrily]

102. South Carolina is not the be all and end all, either of early states or of the primary.

It would be lovely if Bernie won it. If not, shrug.

[Empowerer]

126. Y'all have been saying that for months

That must be the slowest falling wall on earth. The Great Wall of China wouldn't take this long to come down one brick at a time.

[Yupy]

151. Starts?