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Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:47 PM

 

There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why?

I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

JFK

Bernie will change our future, for the better.

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Reply There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why? (Original post)
ypsfonos Jan 2016 OP
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DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #2
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ypsfonos Jan 2016 #4
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Response to ypsfonos (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:50 PM

1. The change has already begun

 

and it's picking up speed!

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Response to ypsfonos (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:50 PM

2. It was RFK

There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why?
I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

JFK

Bernie will change our future, for the better.



It was RFK and he was quoting George Bernard Shaw.


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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:51 PM

3. Good thing, cuz JFK made Bernie want to puke

or so he said.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:54 PM

4. Sorry your're wrong

 

This phrase was first used by his brother John F. Kennedy in 1963 (June 28th), during his visit to Ireland, in his address to the Irish Dail (Government): "George Bernard Shaw, speaking as an Irishman, summed up an approach to life, 'Other people, he said, see things and say why? But I dream things that never were and I say, why not?"

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Response to ypsfonos (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:07 PM

5. Res ipsa loquitur

Ted Kennedy’s only surviving brother Robert was shot and killed on June 5, 1968. Three days later, the 36-year-old Senator from Massachusetts gave a memorable eulogy, excerpted below, for his older brother at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City.

On behalf of Mrs. Kennedy, her children, and the parents and sisters of Robert Kennedy, I want to express what we feel to those who mourn with us today in this Cathedral and around the world. We loved him as a brother and as a father and as a son. From his parents, and from his older brothers and sisters — Joe and Kathleen, and Jack — he received an inspiration which he passed on to all of us. He gave us strength in time of trouble, wisdom in time of uncertainty, and sharing in time of happiness. He will always be by our side.

Love is not an easy feeling to put into words. Nor is loyalty, or trust or joy. But he was all of these. He loved life completely and he lived it intensely….

...My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will someday come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/kennedys-teds-eulogy/

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:11 PM

7. Thank you for getting whose quote it is correct.

I remember reading a book about RFK's last campaign by one of his campaign aides who said RFK used that quote so much that as soon as he said "As George Bernard Shaw said...", the press, the aides and even RFK's dog knew it was time to head for the campaign bus.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:13 PM

8. What gave the quote such resonance is when Ted Kennedy used it in his eulogy of him./nt

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