2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOMG--Live now. Clinton has Iowa rally in a bowling alley. Less than 150 there.
http://www.kcci.com/shared/live-video-trump-campaign-event/27987300If the link doesn't work, go to kcci.com and click on the "Hillary Clinton Live" link.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)You know to be fair, I like what she CLAIMS she wants to do, but I know that she's just parroting things she thinks will get her elected, but once she takes office, everything is up for the highest bidder.
FarPoint
(14,765 posts)In Iowa, this is a very common venue style. It is also a reflection of the actual Caucus style....I worked in De Moises for Howard Dean back in the day....So, this is good.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)It's the small gathering that gave me a chuckle. Yes, it is rural Iowa, but still, if she inspired people or generated enthusiasm, you'd think more would turn up. Cheers.
FarPoint
(14,765 posts)Mirrors the Caucus process of this state.... This is the Iowa style....I like the intimate style with group discussion that the Caucus utilizes.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)This is really surreal.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)You strike me as someone with a great sense of humor. What a turkey!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)I'm gonna go cry in the gutter...
daleanime
(17,796 posts)you're both out of my league.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)
lasttrip
(1,013 posts)Peace
LT
virgogal
(10,178 posts)INdemo
(7,024 posts)probably claim it was just the mid-day bowling league.
cali
(114,904 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)won't attend a rally.
However, rally size is a clear indicator of enthusiasm--which is essential in the Iowa caucuses. Not just for turnout, but for the dynamics that will happen at the caucuses.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)She just needs to hope she's getting the ones who will attend the grueling evening.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)to spent an hour to an hour-and-a-half helping the nation to pick the Democratic nominee.
It's a really good time and it's transparent democracy. Votes are counted by a show of hand.
Iowans are excited about the caucuses.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)through the entire process while wearing Teletubbies costumes.
Oh brother.
DU is getting loony tunes.
I've been to several Iowa caucuses. Never spent more than an hour and a half. And I'm in a very big precinct. 70 percent of Iowa's precincts are in rural areas with smaller populations. Those people will be in and out within an hour; some within a half hour.
But go on...tell us how "grueling" and torturous the entire process is.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)My son asked me why people still caucus this morning. I told him I had no idea. I'm gonna tell him what you said. Thanks!
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...I'm giddy at the thought of all the lazy Sanders voters who will only show up for the actual vote and simply can't be bothered right now... like most of Hillary's supposed supporters.
Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)I watched a couple of minutes and got bored.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thanks for sharing.
Looks like 80 people or so. Talking about trickle down economics, ignoring that her husband has played a huge role in our current trickle down society.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)of these events. This is the same speech that she gave in Des Moines, and it's actually pretty decent.
I really hope that no one wants to bowl though. Bowling is noisy.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)RWR Rhetoric While Running
olddots
(10,237 posts)it would be " Candle Pins For Cash "
demwing
(16,916 posts)what I mean is the crowd seems about as enthusiastic as a rivit
...the whole folksy bowling alley meeting with the working folk sounds like another gutter ball from camp weathervane...
demwing
(16,916 posts)like they couldn't find an actual bowling alley, so they shopped it
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...she certainly seems to be trying to come across as angry at the corporate establishment. Now I see why they chose bowling alley visual... She's just one of us!
She's trying more and more to be like Bernie.
I'm not as worried as I used to be...!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Also:

Sorry. I just couldn't help myself
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)MineralMan
(151,269 posts)Small population, low turnout. They go together.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)and Des Moines is the biggest city in Iowa. Most people who live in Adel, work in Des Moines.
Adel is not an island.
Adel is also surrounded by other small cities. It's ten minutes from Waukee, a very upper-middle class suburb. Hillary has an office in Waukee.
She should have had a bigger audience than 80, especially 5 days before the Iowa caucuses.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Decorah has a population of 8,000--and there were 2,000 people there.
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-iowa-rally-brings-out-2000-people-in-town-of-8000/
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Your theory has failed.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Do the math, she should have gotten around 800 to keep pace
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-iowa-rally-brings-out-2000-people-in-town-of-8000/
^snip^
Bernie Sanders Attracts 2,000 at Rally in Iowa Town of 8,000
Amanda Girard | January 25, 2016
Sunday night, in the small Iowa town of Decorah, Bernie Sanders obliterated the myth that his views are outside the mainstream.
The rally is one of Sanders biggest yet in the Hawkeye State, with just a week to go until the Iowa caucuses. The Vermont senator has been steadily building up his polling numbers since the start of 2016 his campaign announced its first-ever lead in the state earlier this month, and now holds an 8-point lead over his nearest rival, Hillary Clinton, according to CNN/ORC polling numbers.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Adel isn't an island. Hillary has an office 10 minutes away in Waukee, which is a Des Moines suburb that has a population of 20,000.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)progressoid
(53,179 posts)over 150K in that area. My daughters keep track of the candidates coming through the campus. Turn out was dismal.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)OMG...how can she say that with a straight face?
She's on their payroll.
This is fascinating.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)the banksters. My guess...neither.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)them to "cut that out".
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)
Totally hilarious. Is she rolling up her sleeves yet?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Bowling alleys echo and I'm not hearing the thunder you'd expect from a group even as small as that.
Can you say, "No enthusiasm?"
I knew that you could.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)
demwing
(16,916 posts)about how she'll stand up to big money influences.
Yet her suit and haircut together would surely cost what some of these folks make in a month.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)It was fun while it lasted.
It wasn't a bad speech, but oh, the crowd size is painful.
I think it's important for those outside of Iowa to see what's really happening.
Sanders supporters, I think you can feel good about the caucuses on Monday--for a multitude of reasons.
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...there's actually an overflow crowd of thousands who couldn't get in because they had just oiled the lanes...
demwing
(16,916 posts)DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...tells me they won't be needing the usual amount of lysol after this crowd...!
synergie
(1,901 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Are her hair and clothes off-limits? Somebody better tell Hillary!
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Senator, SecState, hair icon, pantsuit aficionado, 2016
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synergie
(1,901 posts)It's no wonder why you rely on the right wing talking points.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Making fun of baldness is .... oh hell, Bernie doesn't care.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Lecturing the middle class that SHE, not Bernie, will be their protector is disingenuous. She's a multimillionaire who got rich from her cozy relationships with the very banks she claims she'll regulate.
If you buy that, you'll buy anything.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Her hair and overpriced tacky suits most certainly are fair game.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)his "disheveled" look, same suit, etc. Heck, that's why people love him...he's just plain old, half-bald Bernie in a department store suit. Maybe he has a couple, three.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Hillary put the hair and the clothes on the table (bad imagery), so who are they to say it's off limits?
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I had to lol

that's priceless.
Segami
(14,923 posts)
synergie
(1,901 posts)in very small towns where you come from?
The breathless hysteria over numbers with zero context is kind of amusing.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)because the bowling alley was at capacity. If that's the case she probably should have chosen a bigger venue, but you and I both know that that is not the case.
synergie
(1,901 posts)turned away, in a tiny town with a population of 4,000 on a Wednesday afternoon?
I don't know what you "know", since most of it seems to be based on assumptions and no actual knowledge.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)I simply pointed out that the capacity of the venue would only be relevant to the size of the crowd if, in fact, they were turning people away at the door. I've seen no evidence that that is the case.
synergie
(1,901 posts)when there isn't anything to back up the 150 and bowling alleys aren't exactly built for large capacities.
Since you brought up the whole "turning people" away thing, what do you have to back that up? I've seen no evidence to support either scenario, but you seem to be convinced that your assumption is correct, upon which do you base you conclusion, when you admit you've seen no evidence, but still cling to your assertion?
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)is that if, in fact, the campaign was turning people away at the door that would have been reported. The fact that it was not leads me to believe they were not. I never claimed to have "evidence". To the contrary, the lack of evidence leads me to believe that people were not turned away. And, yet again, unless they were turning people away your argument about the capacity of the building is pointless.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)that she is holding events in such small venues and drawing crowds of less than 100.
This is the week before the caucuses. It's unusual.
synergie
(1,901 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)that have bigger capacity. And Adel isn't a standalone town surrounded by nothing for miles. Des Moines, the biggest city in Iowa is within 20 minutes. Hillary has an office ten minutes down the road in Waukee, that has a population of just under 20,000. Lots of small towns/suburbs right there.
It is unusual, five days before the caucuses, to have a rally that has under 100 attending. After I posted there was a good shot of the audience. As someone else said, maybe 80 people were there.
Who knows...maybe this is the strategy that she is taking in the final days.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Your hyperbole is equally as amusing.
synergie
(1,901 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)the "OMG" was mocking, not breathless.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)
blue neen
(12,465 posts)It seems that you are implying something that is very rude and disrespectful, no matter who the candidate.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)blue neen
(12,465 posts).
blue neen
(12,465 posts)"ALTOONA, Pa. While Democrats increasingly worry about winning ugly, Barack Obama was losing gracefully at a bowling lane in this central Pennsylvania city. He had better luck Sunday during a visit to a dairy farm, winning over a month-old calf with a fresh bottle of milk."
"My economic plan is better than my bowling," Obama told fellow bowlers Saturday evening at the Pleasant Valley Recreation Center."
"It has to be," a man called out."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/30/obama-bowling-for-voters-_n_94097.html
As I recall, the bowling trip was well-received at the time.
Yupy
(154 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)I'm glad to see her work small crowds, too.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)And Bernie in a venue with 20,000...TWENTY THOUSAND! Did the corrupt corporate owned MSM show Bernie's rally last night?
Go Bernie!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)bout pee'd my pants when I saw this

libdem4life
(13,877 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,668 posts)Seriously ...don't worry about it
she does smaller venues and guess what people actually get one on on time with the future president.
Standing and shouting at a larger groups isn't her thing no big deal.
Bernblu
(441 posts)She's Hillary Clinton, former first lady and possibly the first woman president. You would think just out of curiosity she would be a draw. It makes me wonder what kind of a turnout she will get. I guess we'll see on Monday.