Bernie Sanders Is ‘Disappointed’ by CLINTON ATTACKS

[Segami]

PRESS RELEASE


Sanders is ‘Disappointed’ by Clinton Attacks



JANUARY 27TH, 2016



MASON CITY, Iowa – While professing concern about a negative turn in the White House campaign, Hillary Clinton launched a new television commercial on Thursday that distorts Bernie Sanders’ record with not-so-veiled insinuations and fails to offer her own positive vision for the future.

“Clinton has stepped up the attacks on Sanders in the last two weeks,” as CNN said in a report Thursday on her new TV commercial.

“We were disappointed but not surprised that Secretary Clinton has decided to broadcast a television ad in Iowa that completely distorts my record,” Sanders said.

The new Clinton ad insinuates that Sanders’ Medicare-for-all proposal would undo the Affordable Care Act. In fact, Sanders helped write the Affordable Care Act but says more remains to be done to provide better health care at less cost for all Americans, including the 29 million Americans still without health insurance and millions more who are underinsured. Sanders’ proposal would save the typical family more than $5,000 a year.

Her ad claims she would “break through the gridlock, not add to it.” In fact, Sanders has worked with Republicans in Congress to pass major legislation. He worked with Sen. John McCain, for example, to pass a $15 billion bill to improve health care for veterans. McCain praised Sanders’ “record of advocacy for veterans,” but added, “I don’t see how any veteran … could possibly have any good things, nor could support, her quest for being commander in chief.”

Clinton insinuated that Sanders attacked Planned Parenthood. In fact, Sanders has a 100 percent lifetime voting record for Planned Parenthood and defended the group against Republican attempts to cut its budget.

Clinton’s ad says she would “stand up to the gun lobby, not protect it.” Sanders has a D- lifetime rating by the National Rifle Association, supports President Barack Obama’s gun safety initiatives. Sanders’ advocacy for gun safety dates back to his 1988 congressional campaign, which he lost by 3 points after calling for a ban on assault weapons. Clinton has flip-flopped on gun issues throughout her career. Once an advocate for registering handguns, she became a gun-friendly candidate in 2008 when she tried to portray Obama as too hard on gun owners.

In another dig at Sanders, her ad suggests that she would “lead on foreign policy, not ignore it.” On the major foreign policy issue of the era, however, she voted for the war in Iraq. Sanders opposed it. He supported President Obama’s overture to Iran which resulted in an agreement with world powers to stop Iran from developing a nuclear arsenal. She called President Barack Obama “naïve” for even talking to Tehran. She wants a no-fly zone in Syria. He disagrees and instead wants Middle East nations to take the lead in fighting the Islamic State to prevent U.S. forces from being drawn into a perpetual conflict.

Clinton’s new ad does not offer any proposals for the future. She doesn’t say how she would strengthen Social Security. She doesn’t detail a way to combat climate change. She doesn’t say why she won’t support the leading bills by Democrats in Congress to provide paid family and medical leave. She doesn’t detail her own plan to expand health care for Americans.

“Secretary Clinton is spending a lot of time saying what she’s not going to do. Bernie is spending his time telling Iowa voters and people across the country where he intends to lead the nation as president,” said Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager. “Bernie Sanders will build on the achievements President Obama has made and build for the future.”




https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-is-disappointed-by-clinton-attacks/

[beam me up scottie]

1. "Secretary Clinton is spending a lot of time saying what she’s not going to do"

The NO WE CAN'T! campaign.

Bernie is spending his time telling Iowa voters and people across the country where he intends to lead the nation as president,”

Versus the WE CAN DO THIS! campaign.

She's just starting to play dirty, if this is anything like 2008 buckle up.

[roguevalley]

32. she does this and still they expect us to vote for her.

[grasswire]

2. don't let them swiftboat you, Bernie!

Rapid reply. Keep it up.

[uponit7771]

3. But implies she wont be impartial with Wall Street hourly. Sanders, AGAIN, shows how he's not

... 100% different from HRC or any other politician.

[Iggy Knorr]

6. Nobody forced her to give those speeches

[beam me up scottie]

7. And take those millions of dollars.

If Bernie had racked up millions speaking to the gun industry we'd never hear the end of it.

As it is he's never taken a dime from the NRA and they still call him a shill.

[Iggy Knorr]

10. exactly, if she did not want to be open to attacks

she should have just been content with her book money, instead of accepting millions to talk about who-knows-what to you-know-who.

[beam me up scottie]

14. Or she could have gone on to do good like Jimmy Carter.

Instead she decided to pad her bank account.

And we're not supposed to believe there's a conflict of interest?

[Iggy Knorr]

20. We are supposed to pretend bringing it up is an unfair attack

Maybe all the banks liked what they were hearing? maybe not, but to wonder is clearly a punishable berniebro thoughtcrime.

[beam me up scottie]

23. It's part of her record.

She accused him of doing the gun industry's bidding and he didn't take money from them.

[uponit7771]

8. Yeap, Sanders negative implications on another candidate are all someone else's fault :rolleyes:

Sanders; THEY MADE ME DO IT!!

[beam me up scottie]

9. Facts have negative implications now?

[uponit7771]

16. Sanders implications aren't even facts, someone asked him to explain what she's done for

... Wall Street for her speaking fees and he was dumbfounded and didn't have an answer.

Sanders; "... I'm JUST like those guys, just doing it a different way..." would be more honest

[beam me up scottie]

19. It's not what she's done it's what she would or wouldn't do if elected.

She took millions from them, of course they're going to expect something in return.

Are you new to politics?

[uponit7771]

24. Hell, he could've given that answer and be honest with it but he's more of the same, just go negativ

... negative and hope it pulls her down.

She was underpaid relative to her influence and should've charged more...


You got anything else but weak positions?

[beam me up scottie]

27. Again with the spin, facts aren't negative, bringing up her history isn't negative.

She was underpaid???

[uponit7771]

35. Again, with low comprehension...Sanders was ASKED facts in this context and couldn't answer...

... just look dumbfounded

[beam me up scottie]

37. I'm supposed to just take your word for that?

You don't have the best track record when it comes to backing up your claims.

Take the one you just made about Bernie taking money from the gun industry, still waiting for you to back that up.

If that's what really happened it sounds like he refused to accuse her of corruption - which means he didn't go negative after all.

[uponit7771]

40. Yes I do, some don't have a good track record on simple reading comprehension or keeping

... from putting up strawmen.

It was a debate, he was asked about what she would do for wall street

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/11/watch-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-wall-street

Sanders had no answer, just him impugning her character and guesses at what Clinton would do

Dickerson pressed Sanders on what specifically he believed Wall Street would get for the industry's campaign contributions to his opponent. Sanders explained:

I have never heard a candidate—never—who's received huge amounts of money from oil, from coal, from Wall Street from the military-industrial complex, not one candidate, who doesn't say, 'Oh, these contributions will not influence me, I'm going to be independent.' But why do they make millions of dollars of campaign contributions? They expect to get something. Everybody knows that. Once again, I am running a campaign differently than any other candidate. We are relying on small campaign donors, 750,000 of them, thirty bucks apiece. That's who am I indebted to.

Sanders, "... not THAT different from those other guys..."

[beam me up scottie]

42. So he refused to accuse her of corruption and you call that going negative?

This what you're complaining about?

He stated a fact, corporations expect that their money will buy them influence and it usually does. That's the truth.

You just accused Hillary of selling influence on Wall Street so you went one step further than Bernie, he didn't go negative but you did.

So not only did you fail to back up your claim you insulted your candidate as well.

I'd call it a night if I were you before more Hillary supporters switch to Bernie.

[uponit7771]

72. WOW!!! Did you even read the quote? He implied, in summation, that she'd pay them back in some way

... and doesn't know any politician that has taken millions of dollars from a sector and hasn't given anything back (except Obama)

[beam me up scottie]

83. He stated a fact and again facts aren't negative.

You actually admitted she was underpaid for her "influence" so it must be true.

[SusanCalvin]

61. His reply basically boiled down to

"They get access." And they do. Anybody knows that. They don't give money for nothin'. So I have no idea where you're getting this "dumbfounded" from.

[uponit7771]

73. His reply is wrong, he doesn't have any idea whatsoever and couldn't proffer anything concrete

... and its not like people aren't going to get access to him!!!

He's going to give access too!!

He lives in a glass house and throws different shaped stones... so what

[SusanCalvin]

89. With any luck,

The decisions on access won't depend on campaign contributions or speaking fees.

[beam me up scottie]

33. Wait, did you just accuse her of peddling influence?

She was underpaid relative to her influence and should've charged more...

See now you understand why we don't trust her.

Bravo!

[uponit7771]

36. Yes, I do understand why republicans don't trust her

[beam me up scottie]

38. I'm not the one voting for a person you just accused of peddling influence on Wall Street.

So I don't think it's my liberal cred that's in question here.

[frylock]

60. Well played, ma'am!

[beam me up scottie]

65. Why thank you, sir!

[Major Nikon]

44. Results...

On Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:42 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Yes, I do understand why republicans don't trust her
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1079301

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Personal attack. Sparring is fine but accusing someone of being a republican goes too far.

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[Kentonio]

79. So directly calling another poster a Republican isn't hide worthy now?

Says a lot.

[frylock]

59. You just admitted that she's peddling influence!

[Fumesucker]

13. Traditionally Presidents don't cash in until *after* they leave office

Hillary sort of reversed the normal way of doing things and preemptively cashed in, now it's causing her problems.

[uponit7771]

18. Sanders negative implications of Clinton's speaking fees makes him not too much like any other

... politician, not willing to take a chance on more of the same (just doing it different)

[Fumesucker]

22. Greed trips a lot of people up, Hill wanted the big bucks *and* the Oval Office at the same time

Poor Hill, poor Hill, poor Hill

[beam me up scottie]

25. STOP PICKING ON HILLARY!

[uponit7771]

28. Kinda like what Sanders did with his gun immunity and Brady Bill votes? Again, Sanders is the same

... coin different side.

Only a relative few democrats are willing to scream he's 100% different

[Fumesucker]

29. I missed the part where Sanders got a multimillion dollar payoff

Do you have links for that part?

[Segami]

34. Excuse me...

[Oilwellian]

50. I was thinking more along this line

[uponit7771]

70. Another strawman champ

[Fumesucker]

75. Where is the payoff?

This entire subthread is about Hillary's greed.

[beam me up scottie]

30. How much money did Bernie get from the gun industry?

[uponit7771]

69. King of strawman, no one said anything about money

[beam me up scottie]

84. You said: "Kinda like what Sanders did with his gun immunity and Brady Bill votes?"

Kinda like what Sanders did with his gun immunity and Brady Bill votes? Again, Sanders is the same
... coin different side.

Which was in response to this post:

Greed trips a lot of people up, Hill wanted the big bucks *and* the Oval Office at the same time

So yes, you were in fact referring to money.

Unless you expect us to believe that by "big bucks" you meant large male deer.

[concreteblue]

48. Dude, are you really this lame?

Is there nobody else over there at the shillary hive? Your twisting and spinning is entertaining in a train-wreck kinda way.....
More proof the Clinton campaign is imploding: THe quality of the shilling is going down FAST!

[uponit7771]

68. Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position

[concreteblue]

92. Of course.

And that is why there are no Ad Hominem fallacies in my post.
Perhaps you need a refresher:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

P.S. Thank you for proving my point.

[SusanCalvin]

64. OMG.

Research any Sanders vote you care to. There will be a clear rationale. You may not agree with it. I may not agree with it. But it will be based on reason, not political considerations.

[uponit7771]

71. His votes against the Brady Bill were not clear at all

[SusanCalvin]

90. .

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/10/generation-forward-pac/did-bernie-sanders-vote-against-background-checks-/

[libdem4life]

97. His NRA rating is ... D- by their rules.

[uponit7771]

98. The NRA isn't a credible organization for anything including water being wet

[SusanCalvin]

62. Negative *implications*??

I'll come right out and say that these big-buck, big-corporation speeches are inappropriate for anyone running for any public office. Period. Let her go get a job with her corporate buds.

[uponit7771]

95. That would be true if she was still getting them but that was post SoS and she was underpaid

... for her level of access and influence.

Also, it's a poor argument... someone making 40 million a year isn't going to be influenced by someone paying them 1 million or less in this case over 10 years.

Its a good sound bite but poor position when details are looked at

[SusanCalvin]

99. OMG.

Poor underpaid thing with influence and access.

And "small" contributions and payments certainly do buy access and influence. Take a look at the relatively paltry amount big corporations pay for what they get back.

Your reply is an excellent illustration of what's wrong with our system.

[uponit7771]

100. Yes, we agree... small contributions by access and influence... they'll do the same with Sanders

... and if Sanders was pure as snow he'd agree with Trumps position on public funding for this election.

He's not, cause he's not as pure as snow..

I'm "slightly" better isn't a good selling point

[SusanCalvin]

101. As far as I know, he's always been for public funding.

I have no idea what Trump's specific position is, as I don't consider Trump a person worth listening to. I'm surprised someone on this board does, but the world is full of a number of things.....

[uponit7771]

102. oooooookay and the reason he's not going public funding this year?! tia

[SusanCalvin]

103. Do you mean he's not taking matching funds?

If not, I'd guess it's because he figures people like me are good for a lot more. And I am. But my few hundreds won't buy me access. Fine. All I want for my money is for Bernie to win.

[uponit7771]

104. Yeah, so..... slightly better right?

[SusanCalvin]

105. Good grief.

You haven't even told me what Trump's position is, not that I care, nor exactly what you mean about Bernie. And he's certainly not just "slightly better" than anyone else in the field. So I've already put more time than I care to into this pointless conversation. Bye.

[libdem4life]

94. This is beyond the pale. Almost Palin-like.

[Voice for Peace]

52. He raises a legitimate question for voters to decide.

He does not distort facts or misrepresent truth.

Her attack would be comparable to him saying:

"what she is planning to do is (this lie that distortion) and that will cause (this disaster that gridlock this deadly consequence)."

She is a fearmongerer in this regard.
Big difference. Try and see it.

[peacebird]

4. I am not at all suprised that Hillary is lying in her attacks. It goes to her 'character', whatever

it takes she will do or say. Nothing is beneath her. She feels entitled, and that it is her 'turn'.
Heaven help us if she wins the nomination

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. So glad to send this to the Greatest Page! nt

[nc4bo]

11. Bern-up her ugly, sleazy lies! Go Bernie! nt

[floriduck]

12. Meanwhile, Tweety says Bernie is

going negative, complaining how Bernie's debate comment, "You can draw your own conclusions" about Hillary's Wall Street record.

My how Corporatist owned media is backing their sugar momma. It can't get any more transparent than that.

[senz]

53. + 100 Very well said.

[mhatrw]

66. +top 1%

[Broward]

15. She has to resort to lies, misrepresentations and distortions.

Otherwise, she has no shot. She can't win on the issues.

[Chezboo]

41. Just like republicans... what a surprise. NT

[Uncle Joe]

17. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Segami.

[Le Taz Hot]

21. She can make all the negative ads she wants.

The fact is that, aside from her blind followers, NOBODY believes a word she says.

[AtomicKitten]

26. That's how she rolls. Zero to ugly when she feels threatened.

[senz]

55. Just like 2008. Déjà vu all over again.

[HassleCat]

31. "Oh, I didn't mean him!"

I guess the next Clinton campaign statement will be something to the effect that Sanders must have a big ego if he thought the ads were directed at him. What he should have said was, "She must be talking about the Republicans, because that's not me."

[DemocraticWing]

57. "You're So Vain, You Probably Think This Attack Ad Is About You"

More hits from the Hillary crew...

[libdem4life]

96. Too true.

[draa]

39. K+R!!!

[Nanjeanne]

43. Standard play

It's so like her failed campaign in 2008. And why i believe the results will be the same.

[99th_Monkey]

45. K&R - Stop Lying Hillary, it's worsening your 'trustworthiness" ratings even further. b/t

[mindwalker_i]

46. With Hillary changing her positions faster than the clock on a modern microprocessor

It's no wonder her supporters have shaken baby syndrome.

[SammyWinstonJack]

47. She's vile. Bernie because fuck this shit.

[SoapBox]

49. She thrives on the negative and campaign of, No...We Can't.

America has had enough of these old, tired negative and nasty dirty politics.

Over...it!

[Voice for Peace]

51. That's how she and her spokespeople campaign

With distortions and discouragement.
Bleh. No way she could win the general.

[Segami]

54. Welcome to Clinton Theater.....

In Clinton Theater, the Clintons 'twist and turn' as the wind blows projecting the necessary theater needed for that moment. As the old saying goes 'Jack Of All Trades, Master Of None'.....they are whatever the moment dictates for them to become....they have perfected this act like Vaudeville quick-change-artists.......It has become a Clinton trait to operate under the public radar until someone points it out to you...

Here is just one small capture of Clinton theater......

[Voice for Peace]

56. Can't see video here

[Ino]

82. A description...

Bill Clinton is walking along chatting and smiling, gesturing. He looks over and sees the camera pointed at him. He immediately loses the smile, drops his head, wipes his eyes like he's crying.

It was totally awkward and phony.

[Voice for Peace]

87. Aha thanks

[senz]

58. Comes naturally to them, doesn't it?

The camera, of course, is us, the public, the American people, the voters.

There's a sucker born every minute.

I hope her campaign of lies meets with failure.

[frylock]

63. Wow! Had not ever seen that before.

Goddamned phonies.

[bunnies]

85. .

[Z_California]

67. Interesting way to work on her "dishonest" rap

Pack a bunch of lies into a negative ad. Brilliant!!

[99Forever]

74. Dirty,corrupted campaigners gotta smear with lies.

It's how they roll. It's why they are unfit for office.

[Vinca]

76. For Hillary it's deja vu all over again.

It seems she reaches the end of the campaigning and switches on a "make them hate me" button. If she's the nominee, she will suddenly want Bernie supporters as her new BFFs because she can't win without them. She should keep that in mind.

[DrDan]

77. wow - reading this just minutes after watching him attack her for fundraising while he

is in-state campaigning.

What's that word for that . . . . .

[Iggy Knorr]

80. Discouraging?

I hope you find it discouraging.

[DrDan]

81. no . . . . that's not the word

[bunnies]

86. Shes lying. He's not. Big difference. nt

[Yupy]

78. I love Bernie! Be Happy! He will be pur next President, regardless!

[Ivan Kaputski]

88. ‘Disappointed’ ...but not unexpected.

[Babel_17]

91. Drowning people flail about (nt)

[treestar]

93. Wait, wait

Bernie HELPED WRITE the ACA? Why have his supporters not thrown him under the bus for that?

[Live and Learn]

106. Disappointed but not surprised. nt