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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:08 AM Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton’s DESULTORY Campaign Is SINKING



~snip~

The campaign is beset by four woes that don’t seem to have any quick remedy. The only way forward for the Democratic front-runner is to hunker down, slog it out and win ugly. Since “malaise” is an overused word in politics, I’ll categorize Clinton’s campaign as “desultory” – or, “lacking a plan or enthusiasm.” Clinton’s four problems are obvious: Her performance as a candidate, her opponent’s viability, a growing scandal that could lead to the indictment of the former first lady and possibly a few of her closest aides, and the rejection of her legitimacy as a feminist leader.



First, her performance as a candidate is weak and not getting stronger. Nothing about her is fresh, exciting or appealing. President Obama called it early — she just doesn’t have that “new-car smell.” Clinton’s style is stuck in the ’80s, when “message discipline” was all about delivering talking points no matter what. Sticking to the script was considered artful. Repeating yourself and having a high word count but low content was considered clever. Those days are over. Either Clinton doesn’t know that or she can’t change her style. To watch her on TV can be toe-curling. To listen to her rehearsed lines, and, recently, to hear her force Obama’s name into her answers is so contrived it lends itself to parody for SNL.

Clinton’s second problem is the viability of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Among the things I have gotten wrong so far in the 2016 cycle is the fact that Sanders has people who are affirmatively supporting him. I thought he would be the gadfly candidate — the anti-Clinton candidate and nothing more. Instead, he is building a legitimate following. It not only says something about the Democratic Party’s move to the left, but it also says something about him as a candidate that I did not anticipate. He seems to be getting better as a candidate, while Clinton seems to have plateaued. The emotional appeal of Sanders is vividly entrenched within the Democratic Party and is forcing Clinton to limp to the left, which will make it harder for her during the general election if she is the Democrats’ eventual nominee. The excitement surrounding Sanders is only making Clinton look even more stale‎.

Third, Clinton’s email scandal has receded in the news, but it’s growing more dangerous every day. It is an iceberg that cannot be avoided. As I always say, in politics, being innocent is only an advantage, and likewise, being guilty is only a disadvantage. Neither is necessarily determinative. But it appears that Clinton mishandled classified information, and that she didn’t do it alone. Others on her staff appear to have been part of a regular practice of sending now-classified information over Clinton’s secret server located at her home in New York. Legal experts around town that I have spoken to are matter-of-fact about this prima facie case. There is no question among the experts I talked to about whether she is guilty; there is only a question of whether the Justice Department will indict, slow-walk the case or stiff-arm the FBI. And you routinely hear that the frustrated FBI is not going to be willing to go quietly in the face of the clear evidence it has collected.

And finally, if Donald Trump has done one good thing for the American body politic, it is how he has stepped on Clinton’s hypocritical, sanctimonious effort to present herself as a feminist icon. While other Republicans are mostly intimidated about bringing up her role in enabling Bill Clinton’s harassment of women and destroying his victims, Trump doesn’t play along, and the inconvenient truth of what he says about her actions and hypocrisy has hobbled her effort to create a feminist wave of support. Some of the usual suspects on the left mumble about her leadership on women’s issues, but younger voters aren’t buying it.



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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/01/27/hillary-clintons-desultory-campaign-is-sinking/
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Hillary Clinton’s DESULTORY Campaign Is SINKING (Original Post) Segami Jan 2016 OP
Interesting article, Segami Samantha Jan 2016 #1
Yes, it is....Samantha. Segami Jan 2016 #2
And finally this last thought... Segami Jan 2016 #3
She needs a break? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #10
Hmm... kenfrequed Jan 2016 #4
Well,.... Segami Jan 2016 #6
Hmm... kenfrequed Jan 2016 #9
Sure...and if I were Bernie Segami Jan 2016 #11
gotta love these hard core right winger opinion pieces touted by the sanders crowd... msongs Jan 2016 #5
Sounds like a real winner KingFlorez Jan 2016 #7
Do you have a point to make on the content of the article? Segami Jan 2016 #8
a prison guy is a HRC advisor. Among others roguevalley Jan 2016 #15
At the end of the link, there is a short biography as well: Tortmaster Jan 2016 #17
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #12
comments there show that many WP readers think... grasswire Jan 2016 #13
From the beginning... Segami Jan 2016 #14
some on WaPo say that her reason for runnning... grasswire Jan 2016 #16
That's a stretch. Next thing they'll say is the charges will go away if she drops out of the race... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #18
Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders nationally by 15 points (RCP average). NT Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #19
And that 15 pt advantage is down from what... tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #21
Yep. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #20
I posted this yesterday as well Lorien Jan 2016 #22
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
3. And finally this last thought...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jan 2016
"..I’ve gone from thinking Clinton would be invincible in November to being worried that she might not be the Democratic nominee. I think her odds of winning the nomination are still better than 50-50, but that’s down from 70-30 just a few months ago. The trend lines are not good, and I’m not sure her abilities as a candidate or the strength of her campaign can win it. Clinton is nearing the point where she needs more than just good execution; she needs a lucky break..."
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
10. She needs a break?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jan 2016

Break denied, as far as I'm concerned.

If she cannot win the primaries against a civil and courteous opponent like Sanders, she certainly won't win the GE against the unrelenting GOP garbage-peddlers.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
4. Hmm...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jan 2016

I only solidly agree with the first one. The second I am somewhat in agreement with because I always considered Sanders legit. The third and fourth are highly questionable in my mind.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
6. Well,....
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:45 AM
Jan 2016

...on number four, Trump has already neutralized Hillary. Trump recently called Megyn Kelly a bimbo and lightweight.....As a defender of women's issues, did Hillary come to Megan's defense and call out Trump's sexist comments? NO. Will Hillary respond to Trump's sexist remarks? I doubt it....she has been neutralized by Trump's warning of 'not to go there' with him.......I could be very wrong on this

"...I refuse to call Megyn Kelly a bimbo, because that would not be politically correct," he wrote on Twitter. "Instead I will only call her a lightweight reporter!..."
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. Sure...and if I were Bernie
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:14 AM
Jan 2016

I would be jumping all over Trump's sexist comment......Bernie doesn't fear Trump's threats and would gain favor with many women for calling out Trump.

Can Hillary do the same without unleashing the Trump Kraken?....I doubt it.

msongs

(73,239 posts)
5. gotta love these hard core right winger opinion pieces touted by the sanders crowd...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:38 AM
Jan 2016

Who exactly is Ed Rogers?

From Wikipedia -

BGR Group is a lobbying firm based in Washington DC, three blocks from the White House, and also has an office in London.[1] The firm was founded in 1991 by Ed Rogers and Haley Barbour.[2]

In 2013 the firm was paid $13.7 million for lobbying and its three largest clients were the Republic of India, Chevron Corp. and the State of Kazakhstan.[3] The firm employs various former political figures including Ambassador Kurt Volker, Jeffrey Birnbaum, and Gov. Haley Barbour.[4] Rick Kessler, a lobbyist working for BGR Group was running for a seat in the Maryland House of Delegates in May, 2014.[5]

In 2014 Huffington Post reported that BGR Group was "at the center of [a] lobbyist network" supporting Republican Senator Thad Cochran, while he fought a tight primary election race against Tea Party candidate, Chris McDaniel.[6]

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
7. Sounds like a real winner
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jan 2016

Right-wingers suddenly become credible when they are against Clinton. Sad state of affairs

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
8. Do you have a point to make on the content of the article?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:50 AM
Jan 2016

Yes or no?

I don't need pointers from a camp who employs a smear-rodent like David Brock....



Tortmaster

(382 posts)
17. At the end of the link, there is a short biography as well:
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jan 2016
"Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, a political consultant and a veteran of the White House and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in 1991."


This story would be about Senator Sanders if the Republicans thought he had a chance to win. Nate Silver gives the Senator only about a 26% chance of winning in Iowa, which is, you have to admit, his demographic heaven.

But, carry on pasting the Republican-inspired talking points on democraticunderground. It only makes her stronger.
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
14. From the beginning...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:56 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton resisted (through denials) and being upfront with the public about her server and further mocked reporters who questioned her erased server as being 'wiped with a cloth'..........but the FBI, for some reason, are still investigating her server breach while an employee has already pled the 5th.

We are in the middle of a presidential primary and this FBI investigation is still ongoing......why haven't they wrapped this up and submitted their findings or non-findings? Is damaging information being leaked to republicans by those close to the investigation?







grasswire

(50,130 posts)
16. some on WaPo say that her reason for runnning...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:20 AM
Jan 2016

.....is to shield herself from prosecution. Harder to prosecute someone running for POTUS than a private citizen.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. That's a stretch. Next thing they'll say is the charges will go away if she drops out of the race...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:40 AM
Jan 2016

These people watch too much TV.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
22. I posted this yesterday as well
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:05 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary fans acted as if I had written it myself or was part of some right wing conspiracy (oh, THE IRONY), and went on the attack. Pitiful; attacking the messenger instead of countering the message point by point? That's when you know that a nerve has been struck, and they have no substantial answers.

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