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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:39 PM Jan 2016

So that Culinary Union story...

Where the Bernie staff was sneaking into places and trying to convince union workers to support Sanders.

Odd story.

What's even odder is that the only source seems to be the union. And particularly the head of the Union Geoconda Arguello Kline.

I'm sure it would be purely a coincidence that she's "randomly" campaigned with Hillary?



That's her on the left.

http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2015/oct/12/clinton-joins-union-protest-at-trump-hotel-in-las/

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So that Culinary Union story... (Original Post) EdwardBernays Jan 2016 OP
Yet another Sanders conspiracy. Metric System Jan 2016 #1
Uh huh EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #3
LOL, brilliant minds! nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #4
The entire story originates from one report and the sources in that report remain unnamed. Luminous Animal Jan 2016 #23
CNN? You mean that network that has shown absolutely no bias towards Hillary? cui bono Jan 2016 #29
I thought.... quickesst Jan 2016 #27
There is a conspiracy for everything that doesn't go Sanders way. That train is never late!!!! stevenleser Jan 2016 #2
Please EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #5
Yes, please, exactly. These conspiracy theories are so old. Give it up. nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #11
They are multiplying like Flopsie's Bunnies...like you don't know. libdem4life Jan 2016 #14
Oh I know. I see the nonsense here everyday. There is more conspiracies here lately than stevenleser Jan 2016 #17
But that's not desperation or anything, right? synergie Jan 2016 #20
So no concrete evidence? How odd. n/t cui bono Jan 2016 #28
Do you want me to count up the conspiracies from Bernie fans here and post them as a response stevenleser Jan 2016 #32
So, no evidence? Why don't you, the Fox News frequent guest JimDandy Jan 2016 #35
Your hero Sanders is also a frequent Fox guest. I guess you will have to support Hillary now stevenleser Jan 2016 #36
Seriously, we all need answers to these questions. Are you, a professional JimDandy Jan 2016 #39
Professional?!?! BWahahahaha morningfog Jan 2016 #47
Well, I am giving his implied opinion of himself the benefit of the doubt. JimDandy Jan 2016 #49
Oops... too late to be the investigative hero. JimDandy Jan 2016 #46
You're so Smart, I bet everyone wishes they were like you. Perogie Jan 2016 #52
I remember Hannity saying that to Hitchens to try to dismiss him. stevenleser Jan 2016 #56
So you have no concrete evidence of this happening. I see. cui bono Jan 2016 #41
Why do you think he's on Faux? tazkcmo Jan 2016 #51
Yup, just like Bernie. Guess you can't support him now. Welcome to team Hillary! stevenleser Jan 2016 #58
When all of your replies lack anything of substance and include the rofl smiley cui bono Jan 2016 #60
True. Clearly he has no serious creds. I'm going to have to hold my JimDandy Jan 2016 #61
As to all these issues, culinary, AARP, I dont know who I will be angrier at randys1 Jan 2016 #9
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #6
Conspiracy! DanTex Jan 2016 #7
Yep, vast and right wing Fumesucker Jan 2016 #10
To echo our esteemed original poster: OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #18
I was pointing out that conspiracy theories are not limited to only Berniebros Fumesucker Jan 2016 #21
Did you actually just challenge someone to prove a negative? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #42
Don't worry. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #43
Honest question, Dude, who spilled the proverbial beans? n/t libdem4life Jan 2016 #13
So who spread the rumor...I mean told the story? libdem4life Jan 2016 #8
I'm running out of tin foiled hats. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #12
No, please, you must stay and help clear this abomination up. What are you? libdem4life Jan 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #15
So is this a conspiracy in your opinion? hrmjustin Jan 2016 #19
This version of Hillary is even sneakier treestar Jan 2016 #22
But just as sneaky as the 2008 version of Hillary. morningfog Jan 2016 #48
She looks really stoked to campaign with Clinton. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #24
Ugh. farleftlib Jan 2016 #25
Who cooked up that story? JonathanRackham Jan 2016 #26
called it AtomicKitten Jan 2016 #30
That picture shows extremely enthusiastic people, I must say. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #31
Are those poor sad people being forced against their will to be on stage? Autumn Jan 2016 #33
Wow. Color me unsurprised. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #34
Ah, yes. The evil unions BainsBane Jan 2016 #37
K&R! Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Jan 2016 #40
Good research. I'm so not surprised. Nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Jan 2016 #45
NOT intentionally misleading. Corporate wiki lists her as President JimDandy Jan 2016 #50
Under the bus they go! ecstatic Jan 2016 #53
This 2016 campaign cycle is full of dirty tricksters especially against Democratic. Todays_Illusion Jan 2016 #54
It's been reported that they resolved their differences jfern Jan 2016 #55
Knock me over with a feather. Vinca Jan 2016 #57
I said this yesterday as a complete joke. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #59

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
23. The entire story originates from one report and the sources in that report remain unnamed.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016

There are no pictures. There are no videos.

CNN seems to be the only news organization that actually visited a casino and talked with at least one union member, a shop steward, who said that when Bernie supporters were onsite, they were clear about their affiliation.

Even the Vegas papers seem to be unwilling to actually do any sort of investigation. They just reword or quote the original report and throw in some extra words.

quickesst

(6,309 posts)
27. I thought....
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

... conspiracy threads were supposed be in the Creative Speculation Forum........ where they belong. If not, then it is only fair the 9/11, chemtrails, no moon landing conspiracies etc be allowed in general discussion.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
2. There is a conspiracy for everything that doesn't go Sanders way. That train is never late!!!!
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jan 2016

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
5. Please
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jan 2016

Show any proof aside from that woman who campaigned with Hillary that the story is true.

Or do you just believe anything you read online?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Oh I know. I see the nonsense here everyday. There is more conspiracies here lately than
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

on an Alex Jones fan site. All from Sanders supporters.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. Do you want me to count up the conspiracies from Bernie fans here and post them as a response
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jan 2016

Or OP?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
35. So, no evidence? Why don't you, the Fox News frequent guest
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jan 2016

do a little investigative reporting on this to get all the facts:

Let me get you started:
1. Did Bernie supporters actually hand out Bernie literature in a union dining hall?
2. If, so, what are their names?
3. Were they actually "staffers" or simply volunteers?
4. Were they union members or family/friends of union members?
5. Did they identify themselves as Bernie supporters or did they explicitly misrepresent who they were and their purpose for being on site?
6. Did a union member knowingly give them access to these dining halls?
7. Did a union member provide them with the union buttons?
8. What exactly are the rules for who is allowed/not allowed in those dining halls?
9. What access security was in place at those halls?
10. What rules if any, are there against campaigning in those dining halls?
11. When did this take place?

The press release put out by one of the top union people was incredibly meger, so help us all out here and get some real facts. Thanks...

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
36. Your hero Sanders is also a frequent Fox guest. I guess you will have to support Hillary now
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016

Welcome to team Hillary!!!

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
39. Seriously, we all need answers to these questions. Are you, a professional
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jan 2016

up to it or not?

And the "hero" business is not only false, it's pathetic as a response. You can do better for the Democrats than that. Pick up the phone, get on a plane, do what you're supposed to do to get the facts.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
49. Well, I am giving his implied opinion of himself the benefit of the doubt.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:14 AM
Jan 2016

Dems need more investigative journalists who can work to uncover/discover problems. He appears to be pretty conservative in his views, but hey, he could step up to the plate. It is within the realm of possibilities...

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
46. Oops... too late to be the investigative hero.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:00 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie and the Culinary Union have resolved their differences. No legs to it and....no story now. Bye.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
41. So you have no concrete evidence of this happening. I see.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jan 2016

So you resort to deflection. I see.

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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
60. When all of your replies lack anything of substance and include the rofl smiley
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jan 2016

you have lost the argument. Sad that someone who is supposed to be a political pundit lowers themselves to the trademarked BOGGER level of discussion.

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JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
61. True. Clearly he has no serious creds. I'm going to have to hold my
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jan 2016

nose and hunt around for a Fox News clip of him now. How he responds in text makes it hard to believe he is a bona fide Dem political pundit of any stripe, conservative or otherwise.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. As to all these issues, culinary, AARP, I dont know who I will be angrier at
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jan 2016

if I cant get healthcare without going bankrupt, i.e. medicare for all, and this is the reason why, I dont know who I will be angrier at

The idiot staffers who did it, or the people who made such a big deal out of it they blew Bernie's chances

We are losing sight here folks

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. So who spread the rumor...I mean told the story?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jan 2016

ETA: If that's her to the left of HRC...OMG...she's not a happy camper. Looks more like a Union, uh, whateveah.

Response to EdwardBernays (Original post)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. This version of Hillary is even sneakier
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016

and contriving than the right wing version of Obama.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
37. Ah, yes. The evil unions
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016

Let's add the union to the enemies list that includes PP, NARAL, the Human Rights Council, and the mothers of Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice and Eric Garner (plus Al Franken and countless others).

It's amazing how many working-class and civil rights organizations are in on the anti-Bernie conspiracy. I wonder how they are able to get so many secret decoder rings?

Response to EdwardBernays (Original post)

Response to stevenleser (Reply #44)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
50. NOT intentionally misleading. Corporate wiki lists her as President
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:05 AM
Jan 2016

of the union. The union's web site currently lists her as Secretary-Treasurer, but, oddly enough, positions her info before that of their current president, Ted Pappageorge!

She appears to be the real power behind the throne, so to speak. And SHE is the one who signed that low-info press release that turns out to have had no legs to it.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
55. It's been reported that they resolved their differences
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:45 AM
Jan 2016

Probably other union members reminded her that she's not the dictator of the union.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
59. I said this yesterday as a complete joke.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jan 2016

I literally tried to make it so absurd that I wouldn't have to use the sarcasm smilie. Lol

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