2016 Postmortem
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Sanders has become the cool uncle and Clinton has become the cold aunt.
From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511082086
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Bernie haze. It's a good sign that it kicks in so soon.
quickesst
(6,309 posts)...a +1
WillyT
(72,631 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Save your phony outrage.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)And you knew hou would catch hell for it.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)No googling...
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Better?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)With certain exceptions such as Sen. Warren, Paul Wellstone and others who have worked to break the corporate hammerlock on the Democratic Party over the years.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)seems to be worse, the older people are...
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)and if your not a conservative by 40 you have no brain
amiright?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Where does the time go?
Paulie
(8,464 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Mr. Evil
(3,472 posts)
On both counts.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)dsc
(53,443 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)BainsBane
(57,780 posts)means less than than of younger people? Here I thought everyone had one vote, no more no less.
Yet here we see the celebration of a capitalist cult of youth. Now, I know for a fact I am younger than the majority of DUers since I've seen plenty of polls where people select their ages. Yet somehow the age demographic is now deemed inferior, less than cool.
I don't vote or make any decisions in life based on what is cool. It's a vapid standard. I make decisions based on reason and what is right.
They key advantage to support among older voters is that they vote in far greater numbers.
There are many ways to look at voting demographics. Clinton's support is far higher among women and people of color. If only white men were allowed to vote, Sanders would fare far better. I guess being female or a person of color just isn't cool.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)On the surface, of course you are correct.
One person, one vote... No matter what.
But this time it's interesting...
We have the future of our political system, and the future of the planet, inextricably linked.
And... most of us are soon to shuffle off this mortal coil.
And I wonder if maybe we might let them take the helm now.
After all... it is their future.
As I said... I wonder...
BainsBane
(57,780 posts)A movement that is about one man isn't a movement at all. It does nothing to advance any future goals or organization. In fact, it works against civic engagement by surrendering critical thinking in favor of reverence for a great man. No social movement or social revolution can be built upon such notions.
For me the question of equality is not difficult at all. It is a basic principle, core to my being: all human beings are equal. Any ideology, organization, person, or approach to politics that advances a hierarchy of human worth is wrong. It also exposes as empty rhetoric about equality. If people, as you suggest, believe some human beings to be inherently more valuable than others, they ought not pretend that their political goal is about promoting equality when it clearly is not.
From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511082851
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Don't generalize too much, and don't count on your generalizations.
I attended a telephone party for Bernie this afternoon, and most of us were older women.
All depends.
The Nurses Union is for Bernie. Lots of older women.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)BainsBane
(57,780 posts)"cold aunt" you felt compelled to post it twice. Yeah, we women worrying about our pesky "establishment" rights to be equal citizens is so uncool.
Unions, uncool. NARAL, uncool. The Human Rights Council, uncool. The mothers of Tamir Rice, Trayvon, Martin, and Eric Garner, uncool. Social justice and equality is just so uncool. Sexist slurs are totally cool. Racial profiling at campaign events, that's even cooler. http://www.citypages.com/news/racial-profiling-alleged-at-bernie-sanders-rally-in-st-paul-8000955
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)There is nothing sexist about Bernie. Allegations are not always true?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)My guess is that you mean 'Human Rights Campaign' known as HRC, the DC based mainstream LGBT advocacy group.
Council:
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Pages/Home.aspx
Campaign:
http://www.hrc.org/
The Human Rights Campaign is seen as uncool by many in the LGBT community for endorsing anti choice candidates, candidates opposed to affirmative action, for endorsing Republicans over pro gay Democrats. But most of all for betraying the transgender community by supporting the non-inclusive form of ENDA.
I'm strongly prochoice and the transgender community has my loyalty. I am also a Democrat. For those reasons the Human Rights Campaign does not get my financial support nor my presence. There are many other, older and more proactive LGBT support organizations in need of my time and money. Shelters for LGBT homeless youth for example are more important to me than Gala Dinners and hobnobbing with the DC elite.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)For who is gonna win?
Why is Bernie so much more popular here?
Ever think about it?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)And one of these days, I might meet one of them.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,364 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)They'll all be high-fiving you for the button there.
LOL
stopwastingmymoney
(2,364 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,631 posts)the age bias in this election is easily explained. People my age (60+) are almost desperate to see a woman president in our lives. So the older one is, the more attractive Hillary might seem to be. At my age, I may not see the next election, time is promised to no one.
Frankly, I find it kind of disappointing that Hillary is the only woman up this cycle (no, Fiorina doesn't count). She is far from my favorite choice to be 'first woman' pres because I think there must be better options we are not getting to pick from.
Oh well. This go-around, I will swallow all of that and support Bernie through the primary season as the best option, gender neutral.
If Hillary wins the primary race, I will switch support to her, because the Repub options are simply unacceptable in just about every way I can think of.
a 55 yo woman and I don't consider HRC an attractive candidate. I'd love to see a woman president in my lifetime...the right woman. Hillary is not she.
randome
(34,845 posts)
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