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[redstateblues]

1. Nothing like that goes on here. Just move along.

[comradebillyboy]

2. You forgot the sarcasm tag

[RobertEarl]

5. No sarcasm here

I and others have been called racists, misogynists, and labeled as republicans.

[betsuni]

11. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[RobertEarl]

14. Bernie's cooking

Feel the Bern!

[still_one]

55. He said not thing about not standing the heat. All he was doing was

relating his personal experience, and your response actually confirms its validity along with the OPs

[betsuni]

68. No, look at comment #8

[still_one]

54. Yup

[uponit7771]

3. What'll they turn into if Sanders loses IA or NH?!?!?

[RobertEarl]

6. Not gonna lose.

Hell, already won. He's come so far it is incredible. And against the rich and powerful who have been stealing from us for years!

[JonLeibowitz]

7. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over that possibility. Of course, maybe *you* should.

[betsuni]

4. "Some say Sanders is the symptom, not the cause" -- old trolls with new names.

I agree with this.

[RobertEarl]

8. Can't stand the heat?

Stay out of the kitchen.

[betsuni]

9. Don't know how to cook? Stay out of the kitchen.

[RobertEarl]

10. Bernie is cooking!

[Art_from_Ark]

40. I don't know why you support Hillary

Being in Japan and all, you should know that her TPP is going to totally screw the small-time Japanese producers. Hell, it's so bad that Japanese politicians have to take bribes to shill for it.

[betsuni]

59. I'm not a Hillary-only supporter. I've always said I liked Hillary and Bernie together.

I don't care which one is the president or VP. O'Malley is fine, too. The first DU poll after Bernie announced, I chose Bernie as the president I'd like. Then things happened and I didn't want to be associated with Bernie supporters. "Her" TPP -- I don't know what that means. Does she have a personal TPP? By the way, Japanese politicians ALWAYS take bribes. Everyone does. Japanese businesses screws everyone. Americans think their "oligarchs" are so corrupt -- HA!

[Art_from_Ark]

83. Hillary was essentially the carnival barker for the TPP

She went around to different countries telling their leaders how it would be the "gold standard" of trade agreements. She's on record doing that at least 45 times. But the people at the TPP rally I attended in Tokyo last May told a much different story. One of the people there was a Cabinet minister when Hillary was Secretary of State, and he said it was a terrible agreement when he was in office. There was also a current member of parliament there who also said it was awful.

And having seen what Hillary had done in Arkansas, that is, working as a corporate lawyer against the interests of ordinary Arkansans, getting campaign funding from the state's richest Republicans, introducing a prototype of "No Child Left Behind" in the state's education system that really pissed off a teacher I highly respected, doing little to serve the interests of Walmart's workers while she sat on its board...

And then there was her shilling for Bush's war in the Senate, and her hawkishness about Middle East wars in general, reminiscent of her mentor, Henry Kissinger...

And she really does not like to mingle with "common folk".

[Number23]

12. I said something similar a few days ago and got a "cool story bro" from someone who could be the

the poster child for the kind of idiotic, pointless behavior this article is talking about. Like they say, a hit dog will holler.

I noted that Coates and Walsh just this week felt compelled to type responses to the abuse they got from some Sanders supporters. They join a very long line of people who have had to deal with this.

[RobertEarl]

15. Cool story, bro

[Number23]

20. LOL! Scored a hit, huh? lololol

I know it's been a really hard day for you guys.

[AtomicKitten]

13. It's propaganda promoted by you-know-who's supporters.

Sniveling raised to an art form.

[merrily]

17. Not sniveling.

Dog whistling.

AFAIK, all the supposedly "bad behavior" has been on the internet. And it's not as though people online can't lie about who they are or whom they are supporting (or working for)/

[AtomicKitten]

21. Yes, there's that. But there's also purposeful mischaracterization of comments online.

Characterizations of "slamming" public figures are more often than not straightforward expressions of difference of opinion not anywhere in the ballpark of inappropriate or nasty. They simply dare to disagree and some just are not having that.

[merrily]

22. I never said they were one trick phonies.

[AtomicKitten]

23. *snrk*

[frylock]

25. I can't imagine how disfunctional their family lives must be if mild disagreements..

are characterized as vicious attacks.

[AtomicKitten]

30. They must be Monty Python fans.

[frylock]

32. Who isn't?!

I LOVE that scene! Spot on!

[still_one]

56. so they control the BBC.

[Lorien]

16. I've seen some name calling online, but mostly issue based disagreements

which are usually met with great hostility from the Hillary crowd. "SO YOU WOULD RATHER VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!!???" is almost alway the response to "I disagree with her on Fracking, Monsanto, for-profit prisons, Walmart's policies, Wall Street regulation, banking regulation, support for arms manufacturers, and her hawkish desire for more conflict in the Mideast." They don't want to discuss the issues, so it's a nonstop game of "attack the messenger" *again* (we saw the same in 2008). All that projection does lead to a lot of "Bernie supporters are SO MEAN" gripes. Been there, done that!

[frylock]

27. And it just escalates from there until a berniebro finally says fuck off..

and then Oh!! there's your evidence of those awful, AWFUL Sanders supporters.

[zappaman]

18. Replace the word "get" with the word "earn"

And the headline would be a lot more honest.

[joshcryer]

33. Yeah, I thought this was a special interest piece defending Sanders supporters.

Like "they get a bad rap online, but..."

What sucks is I've tried to quell this shit but I've gotten a hide for it here, and then get mocked myself. And some of the nastiest* people I've ever met on the internet are Sanders supporters and it shows.

(* to the point where their comments about me verge on libel and I've seriously considered hiring a lawyer)

[NurseJackie]

37. Exactly.

[Cali_Democrat]

19. The story of Bernie supporters online has gone international. It's spot on

Finally the media is noticing.

I was called the n-word right here on DU a few hours ago. The poster is gone now, but I gave him a kiss before he was banned:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=37678

[joshcryer]

35. Sorry you got called that here.

I know that at least one poster here got a letter in the mail with such vile shit, too. I really feel for DU's black posters. It sucks. And there's nothing you can do about it as a Sanders supporter because they're in denial and they mock you and cut you down over it. The site that will remain unnamed openly calls Clinton a "bitch." Fuck that noise. I wouldn't want to be associated with such vile people if my life depended on it.

[Skidmore]

85. Sanders supporters are driving

people away from him. I was one who stopped considering him because of the overwhelming nastiness of his supporters. Who a candidate attracts and what is tolerated by the candidate is important. I don't trust Sanders because his tolerance of bad behavior and abusive treatment of people by his supporters make his written words of tolerance and inclusion ring hollow. I recall a candidate Obama very publically instructing campaign volunteers and supporters on what was interable from them. The excuse I have seen about overly enthusiastic twenty somethings does not fly either.

The bottom line for me is that behavior and words need to have consistency. Otherwise, I have no reason to believe Sanders really is on my side. His followers do him harm.

[SunSeeker]

24. Yep. nt

[artislife]

26. Meanwhile, h supporters' candidate gets a bad reputation online. nt

[frylock]

29. Heyyyyooo!

[frylock]

28. Oh noes!!

[jfern]

31. I see plenty of rabid Hillary supporters, but no one is waging a campaign against them

Spending several months bashing Bernie supporters will be epic fail if Hillary is the nominee.

[Renew Deal]

34. Just ask Al Franken

[still_one]

60. dont recall any Hillary supporters spamming a persons FB page because they endorse Bernie

Behavior like that is infantile at best, and abusive at worst

Great reelection on their candidate

[Renew Deal]

75. It's intimidation and harassment

And it's not isolated. Sanders supporters rage is directed at anyone including reporters, union members, trusted elected officials, or anyone that doesn't see the infallibility of Bernie. I think this behavior is the biggest obstacle for those thinking about joining Sanders campaign. But the people doing it don't care about that. They want to make sure not a single negative word is spoken or expressed by the apostates.

[still_one]

84. I agree

[betsuni]

36. Does the BBC have to go under the bus now, too?

[still_one]

62. Looks like it. Within this thread some are implying "the Hillary camp is

behind it"

[workinclasszero]

67. The BBC is just another arm of the Hillary Clinton machine

Didn't you know?

Get under the Bernie bus BBC!

[Vinca]

38. Apparently Jessica is living in cave. Bernie supporters are treated to the very same thing.

It's politics in America and it's not tea and crumpets.

[Skwmom]

39. Not like anyone would engage in a political dirty tricks to smear Sander supporters. (sarcasm)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511080319

[Fumesucker]

41. At least Bernie has supporters online

There are nasty Clinton supporters online just like there are nasty Berniebros but her online support is so damn weak they are mostly invisible.

[Warren DeMontague]

49. There is genuine bullying, and then there are people who can't put together logical arguments

And as such, couldn't debate their way out of a paper bag, who have decided they're entitled to bloviate (and attack) profusely on the internets themselves, but never have to actually encounter any dissenting opinions.

So they reflexively open the "I'm being picked on!" Spigot.

Too many people confuse being called on their nonsense, or having people disagree with whatever self-validating axiomatic gibberish they're peddling, with "abuse". Which is unfortunate, because like I said, real abuse and bullying is out there, but it sure as shit isnt limited to any group or candidate.

What is actually going on here is, Sanders supporters are supposed to shut up .... just like sanders was never supposed to run in the first place. Certainly not to pose an actual challenge.

make no mistake, that is the great offense being committed here- winning.

[DanTex]

42. It's amazing to me the Bernie fans keep trying to deny this.

[seaglass]

48. Especially since the tweet to Elon James inferring he was a shill was from one of our very own DUers

[Armstead]

61. Pot meet kettle.....Glass house meet stone

[DanTex]

64. That's always the excuse, but people are catching on to the fact that it's mainly one-sided.

[Armstead]

65. Yeah it's one sided. Okay.

[Renew Deal]

76. When at the same time they brag about making themselves heard by the apostates.

[stevenleser]

43. The bad reputation is well earned. And yes, they're much worse than supporters of all

other candidates such that it's being noticed globally.

[Armstead]

66. I'm a Berniebro and I just ate a kitten for breakfast

I was a nice person until Bernie started running.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. Bullying disturbs me.

[stevenleser]

45. There are posters here who like to post a picture of LBJ bullying a colleague when

he was in congress and they tout that as a good thing to do to get progressive policies enacted so this is no surprise to me really.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. When a person...

When a person convinces himself or herself that his or cause is more noble and important than everybody else's cause there is little they can not justify doing in their own minds. That, my friend, is the genesis of a lot of human misery.

[Armstead]

69. Then I assume you are disturbed by the bullying by Wall St. and Corporate America

That's a little more significant than some 20 year old with overheated testerone too much enthusiasm and a keyboard

[Le Taz Hot]

47. Another anti-Bernie post

by a new DUer. Again. There seems to be a lot of these lately. Just in case anyone is interested, the BBC fought hard against Corbyn as well but he still won -- much to the Establishment's chagrin.

Oh yeah, and ANOTHER hit and run. Notice that? I did.

[bunnies]

86. Yep.

They join the board and bash Bernie and his supporters like its their job. I wish we could increase the threshold for starting OPs during primary season.

[blackspade]

50. This recycled bullshit...again?

This is like round 10 for this crap.

Talk about a worn out meme.

[liberal N proud]

51. DU - lies in evidence of that claim

I will testify to that conviction, they are obnoxious and do nothing but drive me the other direction.

[Armstead]

70. Driving you right into the arms of the GOP?

[liberal N proud]

71. How is that?

[Armstead]

73. If you own positions are driven by the obnoxiousness of others....

"but drive me the other direction."


then it is a logical conclusion that they are pushing you from the left to the right. And .....next stop GOP.

[liberal N proud]

74. I was referring to going with Hillary

But you can have that deranged misconception in your head if you want.

[Armstead]

78. Just a stop on the way to true conservatism

after all that Bernie guy wants to ruin our wonderful private insurance corporatocracy and eventually replace it with -- horror of horrors -- a socialistic commie healthcare and raise taxes to do it.

[liberal N proud]

79. Hope you enjoy your stay in fantasyland.

[Armstead]

81. It's a fantasy to think that some keyboard warriors determine your politics

If you'd like to be honest and acknowledge that you decided to support Clinton because you prefer her own qualifications and you share her vision (whatever it is) then I'll get back to reality.

But the notion that some keyboard warriors influence your political views in the opposite direction is either an admission of a lack of a solid foundation of beliefs that can be swayed by irrelevant nonsense...or its fantasy.

I will give you more credit, and say that it is fantasy.

[Zynx]

52. I did literally get accused of a being a heartless corporate shill for supporting a $12/hr minimum

wage and boosting transfer payments significantly instead of supporting a $15/hr minimum wage. Apparently a 65% increase is pure fascism.

[VulgarPoet]

63. ...for 12$/hr.

Shit, that's a damn sight better than my home state. I'd take that over a 7.50$/hr minimum.

[notadmblnd]

53. I couldn't leave the house this morning without reading the daily

"Sanders supporters are so mean" thread.


All the way to the UK for the article today. What, you couldn't find anything local? You're not trying hard enough.

[DrDan]

57. "I think they're doing harm to the cause" --- bingo

[book_worm]

58. there are excesses by both sides, but I do think the Sanders partisans

push the limits more so.

[hrmjustin]

72. Huge K&R!

[Bobbie Jo]

77. Yep

Every time this subject comes up, folks will show up to give a real time demonstration.

Without fail...

Yeah, this has become a real thing and it's disturbing.

[Armstead]

80. Vote for Jeb Bush. I hear his supporters are so very polite.

[Trajan]

82. Some say ....

Some say - Hitler was a good man ...

Some say that ....