Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:32 AM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

Washington Post calls Bernie's health care plan "half-baked"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-sanderss-ideas-are-not-too-bold-they-are-too-facile/2016/01/28/e7125bca-c60a-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html

Personally I think that's being generous but whatever...

“Their savings numbers are — well, politely said — simply wrong,” Emory University health-care expert Kenneth E. Thorpe told Vox. Mr. Thorpe, who is not hostile to single-payer systems of the type Mr. Sanders favors and has even advanced single-payer plans of his own, released an analysis Wednesday finding that Mr. Sanders’s proposal would cost $1 trillion more than the candidate estimated. That is not over a 10-year budget window. That is every year.

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15 replies	Author	Time	Post
Washington Post calls Bernie's health care plan "half-baked" (Original post)	hill2016	Jan 2016	OP
The ACA is half-baked	gyroscope	Jan 2016	#1
Hmm.	bvf	Jan 2016	#2
Mr. Torpe was also a member of Bill Clinton's Administration	Todays_Illusion	Jan 2016	#3
Someone at the WP is paying attention.	NurseJackie	Jan 2016	#4
Too bad they weren't paying attention in 2002-2003	Fumesucker	Jan 2016	#6
to who pays their salaries!	ypsfonos	Jan 2016	#7
to maths	hill2016	Jan 2016	#8
Eleven Years On: How ‘The Washington Post’ Helped Give Us the Iraq War	Fumesucker	Jan 2016	#5
The half that isn't "cooked up" is really good.	NCTraveler	Jan 2016	#9
I prefer Hillary's practical and rational approach to such things.	NurseJackie	Jan 2016	#11
I do as well.	NCTraveler	Jan 2016	#12
The Washington Post is a rag after their latest stunt	pinebox	Jan 2016	#10
Aren't you the guy that flooded DU with right wing links and said the source didn't matter?	JTFrog	Jan 2016	#13
ZOMG! The glass is half empty!	Bernin4U	Jan 2016	#14
WaPo represents scared billionaire interests, Big Pharma, Huge Health Industry Insurers; nt	amborin	Jan 2016	#15

Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:37 AM

gyroscope (1,443 posts)

1. The ACA is half-baked

and despite the name isn't affordable

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:47 AM

bvf (6,604 posts)

2. Hmm.

Thorpe was Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health Policy during the Clinton administration.

No mention of this in the article. Wonder why?

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:59 AM

Todays_Illusion (1,209 posts)

3. Mr. Torpe was also a member of Bill Clinton's Administration

Dr. Thorpe was Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health Policy in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services from 1993 to 1995. In this capacity, he coordinated all financial estimates and program impacts of President Clinton’s health care reform proposals for the White House.

That doesn't mean he is wrong, but it is necessary information.

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:08 AM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

4. Someone at the WP is paying attention.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:12 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

6. Too bad they weren't paying attention in 2002-2003

http://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/

In the months before the war, The Washington Post ran more than 140 stories on its front page promoting the war.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:11 AM

ypsfonos (144 posts)

7. to who pays their salaries!

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:14 AM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

8. to maths

actually

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:11 AM

Fumesucker (45,851 posts)

5. Eleven Years On: How ‘The Washington Post’ Helped Give Us the Iraq War

http://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/

In the months before the war, The Washington Post ran more than 140 stories on its front page promoting the war.

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:21 AM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

9. The half that isn't "cooked up" is really good.

Not that it's his plan to start, but still something excellent to promote. One would have thought he would have had his ducks in a row on this one considering how long I'm told he has been fighting for it. Ends up, with poor thought in what he released, he gave them ammunition. Really should have been more thorough and thoughtful with his plan. We need to move in that direction and we need people promoting it with deep thought.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:25 AM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

11. I prefer Hillary's practical and rational approach to such things.

The pie in the sky looks pretty and tasty, but when gravity finally brings it back down to earth, it makes a big ol' mess.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:28 AM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

12. I do as well.

At the same time, when people with depth discuss healthcare as a right, it makes society more comfortable with the thought. It's how grassroots movements work. I believe a Sanders is setting that effort back.

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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:22 AM

pinebox (5,761 posts)