Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:32 AM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
Washington Post calls Bernie's health care plan "half-baked"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-sanderss-ideas-are-not-too-bold-they-are-too-facile/2016/01/28/e7125bca-c60a-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html
Personally I think that's being generous but whatever... “Their savings numbers are — well, politely said — simply wrong,” Emory University health-care expert Kenneth E. Thorpe told Vox. Mr. Thorpe, who is not hostile to single-payer systems of the type Mr. Sanders favors and has even advanced single-payer plans of his own, released an analysis Wednesday finding that Mr. Sanders’s proposal would cost $1 trillion more than the candidate estimated. That is not over a 10-year budget window. That is every year.
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hill2016 | Jan 2016 | OP |
gyroscope | Jan 2016 | #1 | |
bvf | Jan 2016 | #2 | |
Todays_Illusion | Jan 2016 | #3 | |
NurseJackie | Jan 2016 | #4 | |
Fumesucker | Jan 2016 | #6 | |
ypsfonos | Jan 2016 | #7 | |
hill2016 | Jan 2016 | #8 | |
Fumesucker | Jan 2016 | #5 | |
NCTraveler | Jan 2016 | #9 | |
NurseJackie | Jan 2016 | #11 | |
NCTraveler | Jan 2016 | #12 | |
pinebox | Jan 2016 | #10 | |
JTFrog | Jan 2016 | #13 | |
Bernin4U | Jan 2016 | #14 | |
amborin | Jan 2016 | #15 |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:37 AM
gyroscope (1,443 posts)
1. The ACA is half-baked
and despite the name isn't affordable
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:47 AM
bvf (6,604 posts)
2. Hmm.
Thorpe was Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health Policy during the Clinton administration.
No mention of this in the article. Wonder why? |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:59 AM
Todays_Illusion (1,209 posts)
3. Mr. Torpe was also a member of Bill Clinton's Administration
Dr. Thorpe was Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health Policy in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services from 1993 to 1995. In this capacity, he coordinated all financial estimates and program impacts of President Clinton’s health care reform proposals for the White House.
That doesn't mean he is wrong, but it is necessary information. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:08 AM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
4. Someone at the WP is paying attention.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:12 AM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
6. Too bad they weren't paying attention in 2002-2003
http://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/
In the months before the war, The Washington Post ran more than 140 stories on its front page promoting the war. |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:11 AM
ypsfonos (144 posts)
7. to who pays their salaries!
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Response to ypsfonos (Reply #7)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:14 AM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
8. to maths
actually
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:11 AM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
5. Eleven Years On: How ‘The Washington Post’ Helped Give Us the Iraq War
http://www.thenation.com/article/eleven-years-how-washington-post-helped-give-us-iraq-war/
In the months before the war, The Washington Post ran more than 140 stories on its front page promoting the war. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:21 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
9. The half that isn't "cooked up" is really good.
Not that it's his plan to start, but still something excellent to promote. One would have thought he would have had his ducks in a row on this one considering how long I'm told he has been fighting for it. Ends up, with poor thought in what he released, he gave them ammunition. Really should have been more thorough and thoughtful with his plan. We need to move in that direction and we need people promoting it with deep thought.
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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #9)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:25 AM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
11. I prefer Hillary's practical and rational approach to such things.
The pie in the sky looks pretty and tasty, but when gravity finally brings it back down to earth, it makes a big ol' mess.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:28 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
12. I do as well.
At the same time, when people with depth discuss healthcare as a right, it makes society more comfortable with the thought. It's how grassroots movements work. I believe a Sanders is setting that effort back.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:22 AM
pinebox (5,761 posts)
10. The Washington Post is a rag after their latest stunt
Response to pinebox (Reply #10)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:51 PM
JTFrog (14,274 posts)
13. Aren't you the guy that flooded DU with right wing links and said the source didn't matter?
I had a feeling you wouldn't feel the same if it you didn't like a source used against your candidate. Thanks for proving it.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:56 PM
Bernin4U (812 posts)
14. ZOMG! The glass is half empty!
No matter that Bernie put 10 more glasses on the table.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:00 PM
amborin (16,631 posts)