2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum!!!!!! Everyone say it with me now: 3 MILLION DONATIONS for BERNIE !!
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ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)cilla4progress
(24,723 posts)Some day we'll have bragging rights!
burrowowl
(17,636 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Keep it going! k and r.
Uncle Joe
(58,328 posts)Thanks for the thread, JonLeibowitz.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)The legal minimum would be 1,111.11.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)of far. Of course my total falls far short of Hillary's average, but c'est la vie.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)In 2015, I gave a total of $261. The campaign said that put me in the top 88% of donors, which would indicate the average was considerably less than my total (also over several donations).
daleanime
(17,796 posts)I'm one of the poor folks pulling down his average. If we can change things, and keep me a democrat, it will be money and time well spent.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)you'll become a Republican? Or a permanent third party voter?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Not me. Whatever. I get your point.
I'd said before that I think we are entering a period of party realignment.
trillion
(1,859 posts)Anyway, nothing could make me a republican and I never got over the greens throwing the 2000 election so I won't go green(and I found out too much about them -inflexible as libertarians only on the left.)
In a sane race I would not vote at all if it came down to hillary though. But, it looks like that won't be possible no matter who the dems pick this year because it is an insane race. I have to stop cruz, rubio, bush, carson, fiorina, etc. etc. Trump however... heck, I'd vote for all those nasties i just listed if it meant stopping trump from getting a hold of our nuclear arsenal. I think this year takes the cake, worst people running ever! Scariest election ever too.
I can't stand hillary for her record because I've watched her too long and she kept going against the liberals. Right now it's all lies lies lies but that's was her action while in congress, lie lie lie, look good to the liberals, vote with the republicans. She is only better than the republicans because she's not profoundly racist, a christo facist, or homicidally insane.
That said, if we don't get Bernie we're screwed with Hillary. The least of the evils has gotten a lot worse, just like the evils have gotten worse. I wonder how long before the least evil finally sinks to this years republican runners...
trillion
(1,859 posts)Bernie has the record behind him and it's astonishing we get such a good pick and that he has closed in on Hillary in the race.
Kasich(sp) nearly sounds sane on the republican side but I saw a clip of him on democracy now that showed he is very much from the republican party. Hence, Bernie is the only candidate that would try to improve America and I believe he would improve the world. It's like Carter running only I think Bernie is far more savvy - not that I don't have a lot of respect for President Carter and any political opinions he offers now a days.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)Trump is normal scary, Cruz is icky creepy.
The Republican Party is a garbage can.
trillion
(1,859 posts)he must be pretty bad. Creepy does sound like what I've seen so far.
trillion
(1,859 posts)and refuses to yield even when he's dead wrong. I think he's more dangerous with our arsenal. Cruz could be talked to by the department of defense, I don't believe trump could. Trump surrounds himself with yes men and would be firing anyone who tried to say his ideas are bad or so much as didn't agree with him.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)I suppose my fear levels hinge on that, but I don't believe a President Trump would act that way. I think he'd govern like your average center-right Republican (think Bush, Kasich, maybe even Bloomberg is a good comparison). I could be wrong but I don't think so. Cruz on the other hand truly believes the stuff he spews. Especially his disbelief in separation of church and state. That combined with watching his and his father's Dominionist preaching videos (don't have it in me to get into the vile beliefs right now) truly frighten me.
But we don't really need to even waste time discussing it, they're all terrible
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Wash your mouth out. Hillary not losing the primary will greatly increase the chance of me holding my nose, although I had better be careful not to eat the night before. Three simple words, Iraq War Vote. But what I won't do is stay in a party where the leadership not only doesn't hold the same views as me, but actually works against my views. In the mean time I working hard to stay a member of the only party I've had since 1980. Does that give you enough rope?
If not don't worry, the smallest of consequences from Hillary failing to lose the primary will be me leaving on my own. When I disagreed with Clinton(Bill) I've said so, when I've disagree with Obama I say so, and when I disagree with Bernie I say so. Hillary would receive no less and we both know that would not be tolerated in HillaryUnderground. So I hope you have a lovely rest of the evening.
trillion
(1,859 posts)ALL DEMOCRATS that aren't voting for Hillary are not doing it because they want to become republicans. It's because they don't want to vote for a republican - her record.
Not voting for Hillary means the person is a LIBERAL democrats.
There is no question this person won't vote for her for the same reason. She is Jeb. She proved it over and over and over, stunning the people with Bernie signs that anyone on a site like this would be supporting her after her record.
Asking if they are a republican because they are saying they won't vote for her means you really really really really really don't get the problem with hillary. It aint cause we like rethugs, it's because we don't.
That said, she'll get my least of evils vote and thats it. I recognize she is really really bought by wallstreet and the insurance companies. She should be in jail just for the TPP.
trillion
(1,859 posts)I should have posted to Bowie.
trillion
(1,859 posts)who have donated 5 times to my one.
(No, not really. Sorry.)
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)Without people getting defensive.
I don't know why you should think there is something wrong with the public knowing something so simple.
Oh, wait. Is this like an anti-math thing? Is math in on anti-Bernie conspiracy along with science, logic, and the MSM?
Is math in on anti-Bernie conspiracy along with science, logic...
Yeah. Good point.
Slow down. You're just making it worse.
trillion
(1,859 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)I seriously doubt it.
jfern
(5,204 posts)BainsBane
(53,026 posts)$3 million donations
$1 million donors (your claim)
$3 mil/$1 mil = $3.00. It makes no sense. There have to be significantly fewer than one million donors.
jfern
(5,204 posts)3 million donations from over 1 million donors
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)my mistake.
Of course he has raised way more than $3 million dollars. I think it's closer to $50-70 million.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)that the average donation is about 31 dollars.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Why don't you do something strategic and actually stop posting on this thread.
I mean, you managed to kick it every time you challenge the three million donations thing so the headline keeps sticking. That and your arguments look like quibbling.
Wait, why am I actually trying to help you since I support Senator Sanders?
Maybe it might be because having observed the style of your usual argumentation you actually seem to be making Hillary LESS appealing in the eyes of Sanders supporters.
Please for the love of gods can I at least beg you not to switch sides and help elect Bernie Sanders, you would do us more harm than good.
BainsBane
(53,026 posts)I wasn't "quibbling." I asked a simple question and engaged in a bit of banter. It's sad that every little thing has become a fight.
I admitted my mistake. And you're right. I lack the winning personality necessary to be a Sanders supporter. I've never even attacked complete strangers on FB. I ask questions. I even admit to being wrong when I make a mistake. Clearly I'm beneath contempt.
Sorry I dared to respond to people clearly so inherently superior to me. I shall try to stay in my place from now on.
Backatcha~
bvf
(6,604 posts)I shall try to stay in my place from now on.
That's all anyone can ask.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Also, Bernie's track and field is showing. When you reach your goal and then say, let's keep going, that's the sign of someone who enjoys endurance racing.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Woot! Woot!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Bernie wins!
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I really can't afford it right now, but I just dug down deep and made another contribution today.
Let's put our money where our mouth is guys!
If you can afford it.
trillion
(1,859 posts)They should have added it to this thread.
Found it:
Donate to DU for Bernie here: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/duforbernie
Okay, I'm in it 2 donations now. I will make sure I get up to 5 donations.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)gave 'em $250 yesterday on top of the monthly donation and felt guilty when they asked for more today to meet the $3 million goal so am relieved they met it because I'm torn between national goals and personal necessity, a hard choice. Candidates like Bernie occur once in a lifetime.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)don't hurt yourself contributing ...there are many ways to help get bernie elected ....if we all do the best we can, i believe it will be enough
thank you for all you are doing!!!!
senz
(11,945 posts)Very good news. The reason I'm giving a bit more than comfortable is that, due to some health issues, I can't, at this time, give the kind of volunteer support I'd like to and firmly believe Bernie's candidacy presents the best chance for America -- and, by extension, the world -- to turn in a healthier direction. Any of the other candidates -- Hillary or the Republicans -- will continue down the corporate controlled path to greater economic suffering for the non-rich and destruction of the natural environment that makes life possible for all species and livable for humans. That is an unequivocally bad direction.
I cannot think of anything more worthwhile, right now, than helping elect Bernie POTUS. If he doesn't get the nomination, I'll probably turn my attention to organizations that are actively working in the right direction.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)btw
senz
(11,945 posts)The only reason I support Bernie is that I can't stand myself.