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saynotoplutocrats

(40 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:42 PM Jan 2016

The attacks I am seeing on Bernie Sanders are mostly practical in nature.

I love Bernie Sanders’ policies; I just don’t think he has a team that can win in November. Being a good campaign manager is like being a good running back. It requires more than good intentions; it requires a will to win. Tad Devine is a running back that has never scored a touchdown. He has been given the ball on the one yard line twice (2000 and 2004), and he fumbled both times. I don’t think any Democrat who wants to win in November is going to give him the ball again.

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The attacks I am seeing on Bernie Sanders are mostly practical in nature. (Original Post) saynotoplutocrats Jan 2016 OP
Lol. cali Jan 2016 #1
no kidding..... virtualobserver Jan 2016 #3
So who fumbled in 2008? daleanime Jan 2016 #2
Hey, you're in the first round of SOTD. Ron Green Jan 2016 #4
It's not Sanders LWolf Jan 2016 #5
Haha ... Trajan Jan 2016 #6
This is the new member battle cry of the day. "Tad Devine is the worst person ever in the history Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #7
no no that goes ypsfonos Jan 2016 #10
So many old accounts with low post counts coming out to poo-poo sanders. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #8
Part-time accounts usually go back into hibernation after after the primaries. nt Snotcicles Jan 2016 #19
OMG a Hillary supporter linking to a nasty site that calls Hillary Autumn Jan 2016 #20
Do you know ANYTHING of Bernie's history of running against the machine? pangaia Jan 2016 #9
Thanks for your concern... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #11
. The attacks I am seeing on Bernie Sanders are mostly anti people in nature. Old Codger Jan 2016 #12
got to be satire whether you meant it to be or not rurallib Jan 2016 #13
Well shit. 99Forever Jan 2016 #14
Don't take them off! saynotoplutocrats Jan 2016 #16
Yeah, sure. 99Forever Jan 2016 #17
i see the saturday meme is out.... restorefreedom Jan 2016 #15
The (R)s have an uphill battle in the General. Demographics are with us. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #18
That’s what all the political pundits said in 2000 saynotoplutocrats Feb 2016 #21

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
5. It's not Sanders
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

that has a record of fumbling.

Polls consistently show him beating all Republicans with a higher percentage than his opponent.

I'm not at all worried about him beating the R in the general election. He gets way more respect, and has way more support, from independent and moderate R voters than his opponent does. His biggest challenge is right now, in the primary, with the neo-liberal Democratic establishment.

If he wins the nomination, he will be the next POTUS.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
7. This is the new member battle cry of the day. "Tad Devine is the worst person ever in the history
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jan 2016

of bad people." Hitler, Tad, Mao.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. So many old accounts with low post counts coming out to poo-poo sanders.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

Here, let me show you the "practical nature" of attacks on sanders.

"Far from being an "outsider", Sanders is a dyed-in-the-wool pro-Fed and pro-Israel Marxist from Ben & Jerry's commie-pinko-hippie Vermont. Sander's fake "populism" is that of the Jewish rabble-rouser on a soap box, a la Leon Trotsky (Russia), Emma Goldman (United States), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany) and Bela Kun (Hungary)."


That's from a neo-nazi site being used to attack sanders in this thread.

Tell me about how practical that is, and we'll continue.

Autumn

(48,869 posts)
20. OMG a Hillary supporter linking to a nasty site that calls Hillary
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jan 2016
"Killary Rotten Clintscum"
just to trash Bernie is the most disgusting thing I have ever seem.
Kudos to the Hillary supporters who called him out on that thread.
 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
12. . The attacks I am seeing on Bernie Sanders are mostly anti people in nature.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

As opposed to anything relevant including your post...

rurallib

(64,616 posts)
13. got to be satire whether you meant it to be or not
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jan 2016

very humorous.

And the reference to Tad Devine? Who the fuck is he or she? Must be a deep football reference for real he men?

 
16. Don't take them off!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jan 2016

Just put "Vote Democratic" stickers over the top of them. You know, Democrats, the folks who beat the Socialist Party and Liberty Union Party Presidential candidate to win the White House in 2008 and 2012.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
17. Yeah, sure.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jan 2016

Just toss my ethics and morals into the trash so I can say...


"Yay fer meee... I voted fer da winnnna!" (Who won't win the GE anyway, smartguy.)

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
18. The (R)s have an uphill battle in the General. Demographics are with us.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jan 2016

Running someone who could implode, like Hillary, is the real danger. If we run someone who is smart enough to not cause his/her own problems then we should be able to win fairly easily.

(Yes, this is from Redstate because even they know they are in trouble, this is not some idealistic liberal analysis)

http://www.redstate.com/diary/6755mm/2015/09/04/gop-nominee-needs-64-percent-white-vote-30-percent-non-white-vote-win-16/

^snip^

GOP Nominee Needs 64 percent of the White Vote and 30 percent of the Non-White Vote to Win in ’16

Does Presidential Racial Group Voting Data Since 1976 Spell Doom for Republicans?



For example, a recent Real Clear Politics interactive turn-out calculator shows that for the Republican nominee to win the White House, he or she must capture at least 64 percent of the white vote. (This assumes the white and non-white voter turn-out numbers remain historically consistent.)

The need to achieve 64 percent of the white vote should be extremely disconcerting for the GOP because since 1976 there have only been two presidential elections where the Republican nominees won over 60 percent of the white vote and that was in 1984 and 1988.

On the non-white vote side of the equation, respected Republican pollster Whit Ayres predicts that the Republican nominee must win at least 30 percent of the total non-white vote in order to win the White House.

Republicans must not sugarcoat these numbers because the party is swimming against strong tides of presidential election voting data dating back to 1976.





 
21. That’s what all the political pundits said in 2000
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:39 AM
Feb 2016

And then Tad Devine managed to fumble the ball on the one yard line. Are we really going to hand the ball off to Tad again?

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