2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe attacks I am seeing on Bernie Sanders are mostly practical in nature.
I love Bernie Sanders policies; I just dont think he has a team that can win in November. Being a good campaign manager is like being a good running back. It requires more than good intentions; it requires a will to win. Tad Devine is a running back that has never scored a touchdown. He has been given the ball on the one yard line twice (2000 and 2004), and he fumbled both times. I dont think any Democrat who wants to win in November is going to give him the ball again.
cali
(114,904 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)saynotoplutocrats? and then that?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Might not be a good idea to give them the 'ball'.
Ron Green
(9,867 posts)Let's see how this thread develops and maybe you'll get the tip of the hat!
LWolf
(46,179 posts)that has a record of fumbling.
Polls consistently show him beating all Republicans with a higher percentage than his opponent.
I'm not at all worried about him beating the R in the general election. He gets way more respect, and has way more support, from independent and moderate R voters than his opponent does. His biggest challenge is right now, in the primary, with the neo-liberal Democratic establishment.
If he wins the nomination, he will be the next POTUS.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Byebye
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)of bad people." Hitler, Tad, Mao.
ypsfonos
(144 posts)Tad the antichrist and Hitler in that order...
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Here, let me show you the "practical nature" of attacks on sanders.
"Far from being an "outsider", Sanders is a dyed-in-the-wool pro-Fed and pro-Israel Marxist from Ben & Jerry's commie-pinko-hippie Vermont. Sander's fake "populism" is that of the Jewish rabble-rouser on a soap box, a la Leon Trotsky (Russia), Emma Goldman (United States), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany) and Bela Kun (Hungary)."
That's from a neo-nazi site being used to attack sanders in this thread.
Tell me about how practical that is, and we'll continue.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Autumn
(48,869 posts)Kudos to the Hillary supporters who called him out on that thread.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)As opposed to anything relevant including your post...
rurallib
(64,616 posts)very humorous.
And the reference to Tad Devine? Who the fuck is he or she? Must be a deep football reference for real he men?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)How will I ever get those Bernie stickers off my bumper?
You done gave me a sadz.
saynotoplutocrats
(40 posts)Just put "Vote Democratic" stickers over the top of them. You know, Democrats, the folks who beat the Socialist Party and Liberty Union Party Presidential candidate to win the White House in 2008 and 2012.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Just toss my ethics and morals into the trash so I can say...
"Yay fer meee... I voted fer da winnnna!" (Who won't win the GE anyway, smartguy.)
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)man, i am going to have to get a meme calendar...
hard to keep track!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Running someone who could implode, like Hillary, is the real danger. If we run someone who is smart enough to not cause his/her own problems then we should be able to win fairly easily.
(Yes, this is from Redstate because even they know they are in trouble, this is not some idealistic liberal analysis)
http://www.redstate.com/diary/6755mm/2015/09/04/gop-nominee-needs-64-percent-white-vote-30-percent-non-white-vote-win-16/
^snip^
GOP Nominee Needs 64 percent of the White Vote and 30 percent of the Non-White Vote to Win in 16
Does Presidential Racial Group Voting Data Since 1976 Spell Doom for Republicans?
For example, a recent Real Clear Politics interactive turn-out calculator shows that for the Republican nominee to win the White House, he or she must capture at least 64 percent of the white vote. (This assumes the white and non-white voter turn-out numbers remain historically consistent.)
The need to achieve 64 percent of the white vote should be extremely disconcerting for the GOP because since 1976 there have only been two presidential elections where the Republican nominees won over 60 percent of the white vote and that was in 1984 and 1988.
On the non-white vote side of the equation, respected Republican pollster Whit Ayres predicts that the Republican nominee must win at least 30 percent of the total non-white vote in order to win the White House.
Republicans must not sugarcoat these numbers because the party is swimming against strong tides of presidential election voting data dating back to 1976.
saynotoplutocrats
(40 posts)And then Tad Devine managed to fumble the ball on the one yard line. Are we really going to hand the ball off to Tad again?
