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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:47 PM Jan 2016

Gold standard poll in Iowa: Clinton 45% Bernie 42%

Looking good for Clinton!!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/01/30/clinton-keeps-slim-edge-over-sanders-latest-iowa-poll/79537020/

Some other things going for Clinton:
- she has the better organizational machinery
- her voters are more committed
- her voters are much more likely to have gone to the caucuses before
- she has the better demographics map (a lot of Bernie's supporters are concentrated in a few college towns)

"Clinton's voters are more certain and much more likely to have caucused before," Axelrod said. "Bernie's organizational task, counting so heavily on first-time caucusgoers — many of them young — is greater."
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Gold standard poll in Iowa: Clinton 45% Bernie 42% (Original Post) hill2016 Jan 2016 OP
Within the MOE. It all comes down to turnout. Looking good for Clinton though! JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #1
Sounds close. We'll have to see saltpoint Jan 2016 #2
A statistical tie TSIAS Jan 2016 #3
Looking like she's going to win LittleBlue Jan 2016 #4
Have to get out the vote in the rural areas!!! JudyM Jan 2016 #20
The numbers for first time Caucus goers is particularly bad for Sanders alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #5
3 point difference is good? RiverLover Jan 2016 #6
We'd be celebrating if we won the poll. Now it is all about turnout. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #7
Probably so, but only because Bernie is the underdog. 3 points seems close to me. RiverLover Jan 2016 #18
I'll say this: shows Clinton has pretty big electability problems if Sanders can nearly edge her out JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #21
not considering the demography of Iowa redstateblues Jan 2016 #26
Actually pretty bad for Clinton basselope Jan 2016 #8
They are likely to split comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #22
History suggests otherwise. basselope Jan 2016 #25
Interesting about kcjohn1 Jan 2016 #9
Agreed alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #13
But where did Hillary start? How far ahead??n/t tokenlib Jan 2016 #10
Why does it add up to 90 and not 100? (eom) Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #11
Undecided voters TSIAS Jan 2016 #14
Got it. Thanks. Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #23
Woo-hoo! workinclasszero Jan 2016 #12
That is a dead heat. retrowire Jan 2016 #15
looks about even to me JI7 Jan 2016 #16
Any idea which way O'Malley's supporters break if they don't get to 15%? Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #17
How much of the polling took place before the most recent Clinton email revelations? Karmadillo Jan 2016 #19
Good thought. It was 26-29th, pre-news. And how much news coverage is that getting in Iowa? JudyM Jan 2016 #24
42% Like honesty, integrity & a more perfect union NowSam Jan 2016 #27
K&R. YEEESSSS! lunamagica Jan 2016 #28
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
4. Looking like she's going to win
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jan 2016

My only hope for Bernie is the unpredictability of this state. The polls are definitely for Hillary.

Go Bernie

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. The numbers for first time Caucus goers is particularly bad for Sanders
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

I thought Bernie had Iowa in the bag.

It's gonna be close.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
18. Probably so, but only because Bernie is the underdog. 3 points seems close to me.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

Really close.

Here's hoping for a huge turnout!!

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
26. not considering the demography of Iowa
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jan 2016

We'll get a lot more representative primary results in states that are more diverse. If Bernie can't win decisively in Iowa it will spell trouble moving forward. He needs more than a squeaker.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
8. Actually pretty bad for Clinton
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

Since you need a 15% margin to support a candidate, that means the ANTI Hilary vote is at 55%

Where are O Malley people more likely to go?

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
9. Interesting about
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

What the poll says about first time voters. The poll assumes 33% where it was 60% during 08.

She says this is the average number. So it really comes down to turnout. If Sanders can get above average turnout he wins easily.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. Agreed
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

We will see not only the Iowa result, but a pretty good indication of whether Sanders' claims of energizing voters is accurate. If he loses, and the young, independent, first time caucus goers numbers fail him, then the whole argument about a movement starts to crumble. Iowa tells us more than just who won Iowa.

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
23. Got it. Thanks.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jan 2016

O'Malley is actually part of the 90. (45+42+3)

The 10% undecided, if they make it out to the caucus, are a huge factor.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
15. That is a dead heat.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

Both of them gained 3 points and have stayed relative to one another.

Oy vey, this is going to be a fight.

Either way, Bernie has the majority of the youth vote and polls over 20 points higher than Hillary when people are asked "Does this candidate care about people like you?"

And the pundits said that that number is normally very telling when it comes to deciding the winner.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. Any idea which way O'Malley's supporters break if they don't get to 15%?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jan 2016

With only a 3% spread (within the margin of error) Martin's supporters could have a big impact.



NowSam

(1,252 posts)
27. 42% Like honesty, integrity & a more perfect union
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jan 2016

That's pretty good. Ofcourse I'm guessing that most people who don't own a land line (younger voters) so be voting for honesty, integrity and a more perfect union too. So I'd say this looks very good for Bernie.

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