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NOT TOP SECRET AT THE TIME THEY WERE SENT period! (Original Post) liberal N proud Jan 2016 OP
who cares about her damn emails virtualobserver Jan 2016 #1
Dumbest thing for a SoS to do ever. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #2
Does not make any difference for many people sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #3
It wasn't exactly a brilliant undertaking DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #4
not MARKED secret restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #9
Like Bill said, "it depends what the meaning of 'is' is." JudyM Jan 2016 #15
yup. she knows exactly what she is saying restorefreedom Jan 2016 #16
Based on what I'm seeing around here from many posters SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #17
i think they are on board no matter what. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #20
How Does Something Not Top Secret Become Top Secret global1 Jan 2016 #6
In a Republican world, anything is possible liberal N proud Jan 2016 #7
Not being marked Top Secret SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #8
Because it was on a non-outward facing server that is VERY protected and watched 24/7. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #12
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #13
unfortunately for her, people are starting to figure it out. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #19
Thank you for that farleftlib Jan 2016 #14
She is such damaged goods farleftlib Jan 2016 #10
How many e-mails in total numbers were classifed "after" they were sent? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #11
If the information was taken from the secure net ... kristopher Jan 2016 #18

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
3. Does not make any difference for many people
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

and especially not to the scheming repugs.

The issue will be driven home that she makes
terrible decisions. Therefore her judgement
cannot be trusted.

It hit the front page in my lousy paper as well
as the editorials. Yes, I know it is a conservative paper,
but it is the major paper in the state.


I wished it only appeared on page18, but no
such luck.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
4. It wasn't exactly a brilliant undertaking
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think she intended to do wrong and I don't think she broke any laws. Still, the nature of the job would suggest that the lack of security for a private server would have doomed that plan from the start.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
5. not MARKED secret
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

the content dictates the marking whether or not its there
the marking does not dictate the content

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
9. Exactly
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:46 PM
Jan 2016

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

It's very telling to me that Hillary repeatedly says that she never sent or received anything that was marked as classified.

JudyM

(29,185 posts)
15. Like Bill said, "it depends what the meaning of 'is' is."
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jan 2016

Parsing meaning to squirm out of responsibility for clearly inappropriate actions.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. yup. she knows exactly what she is saying
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

if it wasn't classified she could just say i never sent anything classified. she knows that the classified designation exists whether or not it is marked. but she is hoping the voters are too stupid to see through her parsing. i think she is gonna be disappointed.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
20. i think they are on board no matter what.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jan 2016

outside the echo chamber its a different story. i hear people talking about it in the world, out of du. they get it.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
8. Not being marked Top Secret
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jan 2016

is completely different than not being Top Secret.

Undoubtedly the emails weren't marked Top Secret, but that doesn't mean they weren't Top Secret.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
12. Because it was on a non-outward facing server that is VERY protected and watched 24/7.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jan 2016

What is alleged to have happened is that her staff, with clearance, saw it and typed it out in emails to send to her. You're not ALLOWED to do that.

And, top that off with the fact that her email wasn't on protected government servers, either, then you have the crime.

Yes, I know some government servers were hacked, but all of those had outward facing servers. SIPERnet and JWICS don't.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
13. Exactly
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jan 2016

I'm dumbfounded by the notion that some people have, which is that if wasn't marked as classified, then it wasn't classified.

Classification markings don't dictate the classification of the content, the content dictates the markings.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
14. Thank you for that
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jan 2016

I'm glad somebody here understands the ins and outs of secure servers. Every time I read one of your posts I feel like I have a better understanding of this issue.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
10. She is such damaged goods
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jan 2016

National Security and immigration are the only two things republicans care about and this is not going away, no matter how she tries to spin it. It may not have been illegal (I think it was), but it was definitely handled very badly. The republicans loathe her and the Dems are split about her. With a scandal of this nature that will be going on for many more months, Hillary needs to step down.

Uncle Joe

(58,272 posts)
11. How many e-mails in total numbers were classifed "after" they were sent?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016

Thanks for the thread, liberal N proud.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
18. If the information was taken from the secure net ...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jan 2016

... they were probably classified before being copied.

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