Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:10 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
Hillary Is A Poor Sport... NO Character Candidate With 90% in TIED 50-50 Declares "victory?
Hillary's action, declaring "victory" when the vote count remains INCOMPLETE with 10% left to be counted demonstrates once again why Hillary should not be the party nominee.
THE AUDACITY OF THE CLINTON INC. PARADE KNOWS NO BOUNDS! Since when is a tie... =VICTORY? The Commentators on ALL Networks are INCREDULOUS at her AUDACITY! In the Tank "Establishment Shill Super Delegates? Fuck NO! Again she exhibits POOR Judgement! No grace from Hillary... With EVERY Advantage, the Corporatist Media behind her, The Candidate of Inevitability! Wall Street CA$$$$$$HHHH! SUPER PACS galore!!!! The setting aside of EVERY mistep, prevarication, wrong vote, poor decision and flip flop that she has ever made... And She CANNOT wait for the votes to be counted? Bernie is the Victor here in every sense of the word at this point...irrespective of what the final number is. 1PERCENT or less... IF Hillary wins the caucus... IF???? In any sense of the word... Hillary LOST tonight...
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CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | OP |
reformist2 | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
spyker29 | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #21 | |
roguevalley | Feb 2016 | #26 | |
ViseGrip | Feb 2016 | #35 | |
book_worm | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
Arugula Latte | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #25 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #30 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #31 | |
Metric System | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
jeff47 | Feb 2016 | #13 | |
Metric System | Feb 2016 | #15 | |
jeff47 | Feb 2016 | #16 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #28 | |
Fuddnik | Feb 2016 | #32 | |
Baitball Blogger | Feb 2016 | #6 | |
tk2kewl | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
HereSince1628 | Feb 2016 | #8 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #29 | |
pinebox | Feb 2016 | #9 | |
MissDeeds | Feb 2016 | #20 | |
Kelvin Mace | Feb 2016 | #10 | |
toshiba783 | Feb 2016 | #11 | |
monmouth4 | Feb 2016 | #12 | |
ChimpersMcSmirkers | Feb 2016 | #14 | |
FrenchieCat | Feb 2016 | #17 | |
CorporatistNation | Feb 2016 | #23 | |
senz | Feb 2016 | #18 | |
GoneFishin | Feb 2016 | #19 | |
ViseGrip | Feb 2016 | #22 | |
ViseGrip | Feb 2016 | #24 | |
ecstatic | Feb 2016 | #27 | |
ViseGrip | Feb 2016 | #33 | |
AgingAmerican | Feb 2016 | #34 | |
NCTraveler | Feb 2016 | #36 |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:11 PM
reformist2 (9,841 posts)
1. Exactly. Any objective person would say that numbers-wise it's a tie. Declaring "victory" is stupid.
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:11 PM
spyker29 (89 posts)
2. CNN reported both camps claiming victory.
Response to spyker29 (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:26 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
21. Hillary... FRANTIC!!! Act of Desperation... Chuck Todd... Beside Himself!
Chuck had to preserve his credibility on this... Chuck, "I cannot understand why Hillary would do this!"
I mean... can you imagine... The candidate of inevitability on the cusp of losing Iowa after she put TONS of resources into the state... Brian Williams, "We don't know what is going on unless you ask the self declared winner..." Pathetic... ![]() The Queen of Poor Sportsmanship! Hillary unable to control her own emotions... ![]() ![]() How would Hillary react in a REAL CRISIS? ![]() BIG bump for Bernie no matter the final number... CONTRIBUTE! Again, I cannot reiterate enough the problem with Hillary forever in every context and situation is her... POOR JUDGEMENT! For Bernie, This is just the beginning... Cannot wait for the next debate... BOOM!!!! |
Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #21)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:57 PM
roguevalley (40,656 posts)
26. It really speaks to something in her soul that must win no matter what. If the final count
goes against her then what? How will she spin that?
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Response to spyker29 (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:55 AM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
35. To go to Iowa, no money, no name rec, no organization, no PAC's. To overcome that to tie IS a win.
She get's no momentum for winning delegates via a coin toss. They are trying to stop any Iowa momentum for Bernie going into New Hampshire, but not fully counting yet, and releasing the popular vote. That person will get the momentum, over a 'coin toss'.
Sanders has asked for the data they are ignoring. In Des Moines, there are precincts not totaled. It will not change the delegate count, but will show who got the popular vote. That is what they are hiding...to not give momentum to Bernie, and let Hillary skate out of town. It's important we have this info before New Hampshire, and voters and caucus goers and candidates have a fucking right to know! |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:12 PM
book_worm (15,951 posts)
3. Maybe, but in NH in 68
McCarthy declared victory losing the state to LBJ 49-42 when McCarthy was on the ballot and LBJ was a write in candidate. In '92 Bill Clinton lost NH to Tsongas and proclaimed himself "The Comeback Kid." It's just politics.
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:13 PM
Arugula Latte (50,566 posts)
4. "That's so Hillary."
Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:44 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
25. Hillary ...Calling Herself A PROGRESSIVE.... HOW SO?
Not a CHANCE!!! CORPORATIST WALLSTREET BOUGHT AND PAID FOR... Her supporters are ... pathetically..UNINFORMED... Bad for America!
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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:29 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
30. Hillary AGAINST Universal Health Care Last Week... NOW She is For Universal Health Care...
Which is it? She says whatever she thinks people want to hear at any given point in time...
So which Hillary is it this week? And Next Week? and The week after? WHAT does Hillary stand for solidly and without remission? Bernie is consistent... Bernie is for Universal health care and has not and will NOT change his position or his rhetoric to please anyone... He just tells the TRUTH! |
Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #30)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:09 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
31. Hillary Calling Herself A "Progressive" Again... Is Patently Outrageous!
As a card carrying Wall Street Representative, she is no more "progressive" than George Bush. She keeps saying things that are counter to her positions...
Why does she continue to do THIS? Her "explanation" on emails... Trust is a BIG problem for her... |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:14 PM
Metric System (6,048 posts)
5. So why is Sanders planning on declaring victory?
Response to Metric System (Reply #5)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
13. Planning?
So you're now attacking Sanders based on your travels in a time machine?
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Response to jeff47 (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:19 PM
Metric System (6,048 posts)
15. It was reported on CNN.
Response to Metric System (Reply #15)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:20 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
16. Reported that he was planning. You don't notice the difference?
Planning might include writing a speech for if you win. That's quite a bit different than actually declaring your victory.
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Response to Metric System (Reply #5)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:15 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
28. The BIG Man Spoke And Did Not Declare Victory... The Man Of Character and Truth..
Declared a TIE in the face of unimaginable odds...
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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #28)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:39 AM
Fuddnik (8,846 posts)
32. Actually, she declared victory with 84% of returns in.
And that was about an hour before they reported the coin toss business.
I haven't seen the final numbers yet, but I went to bed w/99% results in and 3 precincts separating them. I'm Feelin' the Bern this morning! |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:14 PM
Baitball Blogger (44,795 posts)
6. Bush did it too.
Assumed victory. But that election was heavily contested.
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:15 PM
tk2kewl (18,133 posts)
7. I hate to say it, but...
It's Bush league
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:15 PM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
8. I mostly agree based on 2008.
Last edited Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:17 PM - Edit history (1) And I'd question if Clinton can live the lesson taught to kids participating in sports: "Modest in victory, Gracious in defeat" 2008 didn't provide evidence that Hillary can abide that.
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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #8)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:20 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
29. Mrs Alan Greenspan Looking Hagard And Spent... Described A "MELTDOWN" In The Hillary Camp!
Hillary just barged out onto the stage without telling anybody to the surprise of all. Hillary OUT of CONTROL... i.e.
"The Meltdown!" Bernie plays the magnanimous candidate ... Thanking Martin O'Malley as well as Senator Clinton... So much more mature emotionally is Bernie Sanders! Did anyone hear Hillary ... Thank ANYONE for ANYTHING except Iowa? NOPE! Who has character and Integrity? If you are honest... You know... You know. |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:15 PM
pinebox (5,761 posts)
9. Arogance
and nothing but.
Says it all why people hate her. |
Response to pinebox (Reply #9)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:24 PM
MissDeeds (7,499 posts)
20. Yep
It's going to hurt her and alienate voters.
I thought we were the party of "Count all the votes", yet she declared herself the winner before all the votes were in. What say you, Hillary? |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:16 PM
Kelvin Mace (17,469 posts)
10. Hey, it worked for Bush in 2000
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:16 PM
toshiba783 (74 posts)
11. Sanders aids also claimed victory
Both campaigns are being boasting to reporters - what's new?
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
monmouth4 (8,861 posts)
12. Chuck Todd said she made a mistake doing it and created a "todo" that was unnecessary. This will
hurt her..
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:18 PM
ChimpersMcSmirkers (3,328 posts)
14. Nah, a winner does.
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:21 PM
FrenchieCat (68,867 posts)
17. Media wants to take down Hillary Clinton....
So Marco Rubio can be the next President.
That's why they don't care to report that Sanders' camp also declared victory..... That's the Corporate media for ya! Good luck with them when it's ya'll's turn! |
Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #17)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:41 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
23. WHAT effing Media Have You been Exposed to!
EVERY Advantage... EVERY PUMP! FOR HILLARY! EVERY DISS MSM can muster of Bernie!
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:22 PM
senz (11,945 posts)
18. A friend called it "cheezy"
He was right.
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:23 PM
GoneFishin (5,217 posts)
19. Everything with her camp is about manipulation and head games. Giving people what they need
and want, and winning an election honestly because people would see that her policies would make their lives better never seems to cross her goddamned mind.
Instead, with her, everything is scam to be run on the little people. With all of her Wall Street money, and all the smears against Bernie, a complicit DNC leadership, and a complicit media calling Bernie socialist, unrealistic, unelectable, and worse, the best she could do was a tie. Without the cheating, lying, and smearing by her supporters and the media she would have been sent packing. |
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:26 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
22. It is awful that she has done this. OP is corect, bad judgment once again. Finish vote counting!
Who in the hell made this decision that it would be better to come out in front like this?
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:42 PM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
24. How awful, the Clinton family is taking the stage, and the populous counties count has slowed
to a crawl. This is not how you win with grace. The other side has come just as far.....and would love to get on a stage too, but the votes are still being counted.
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:09 AM
ecstatic (30,607 posts)
27. Except she didn't declare victory in that speech. nt
Response to ecstatic (Reply #27)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:06 AM
ViseGrip (3,133 posts)
33. No not the speech, just when she went up on TV and even the pundits asked what she was doing
declaring 'victory'. Did you miss that?
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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:10 AM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
34. No class
Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:56 AM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
36. She won.
It's messed up that she can't claim victory when she won.
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