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I'm trying to be gracious but watching her makes my teeth hurt (Original Post) Armstead Feb 2016 OP
If you watch Cruz first it's really not that bad BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #1
Rubio made my brain explode Armstead Feb 2016 #2
Had the sound off for Rubio BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #3
Between Rubio and Criue I actually prefer Cruz Armstead Feb 2016 #4
Cruz has a hard time holding in the laughter sometimes BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #13
One might be a permanently unplugged Television set Armstead Feb 2016 #21
In all fairness... Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #51
LOL Matariki Feb 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #6
I think that is a really stupid thing to say. Darb Feb 2016 #9
You'll notice she got the hell out of there ASAP. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #7
she says "I" all the time and Bernie says 'We' roguevalley Feb 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #33
Excellent observation shanti Feb 2016 #49
She should have NEVER declared victory! CountAllVotes Feb 2016 #29
it was outrageous and unacceptable amborin Feb 2016 #48
I wonder who will get yelled at tonight? 840high Feb 2016 #46
Stop it. Let's keep it real. If she takes the primaries, we'll be voting for her in November. AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #8
Not really. jeff47 Feb 2016 #11
Even though I know that, part of me just doesn't want Cruz to even get near the GE AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #14
Good luck with that sentiment. Darb Feb 2016 #12
Yes. Probably true. But this isn't new. If it makes you feel any better, AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #16
This place gets more and more unreadable by the day. Darb Feb 2016 #17
Sometimes you gotta take a breather. Hang in there! It's going to be a bumpy ride. AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #23
"Che works hard for the money." Darb Feb 2016 #34
Your Whatamallonness. Lol. One of my favorite characters AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #37
Bye Felicia notadmblnd Feb 2016 #32
I got your goodbye. Darb Feb 2016 #35
I bet you do. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #36
Oh I do. Darb Feb 2016 #39
I suspect there's no here there. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #40
Tease. Darb Feb 2016 #41
get a clue. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #42
Come on. Darb Feb 2016 #43
..... notadmblnd Feb 2016 #44
Thanks. Darb Feb 2016 #45
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Don't be part of the we. That's fine too. But I will speak however I wish. AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #28
You can start now? You are a little sensitive, aren't you? Hope that made you feel better AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #31
Ain't they sweet. Darb Feb 2016 #38
You're right. Irony is that I AM a Bernie supporter. AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #50
I like him too. A lot. Darb Feb 2016 #52
I feel the same way. I have always felt that she got a raw deal from AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #55
I don't have a lot of confidence in someone who cannot master email. n/t dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #27
The truth is, I don't have a whole lot of confidence in a whole lot AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #47
she is a helluva lot better than a rabid batshit crazy right wing evangelical lunatic dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #56
I think there are plenty of bad choices out there, but I don't think Hillary is one of them. AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #57
I agree 100% renate Feb 2016 #53
Meh..Trump didnt need it the way Cruz did--- Volaris Feb 2016 #54
Things go better with MUTE which I did after her nose suddenly stretched out HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #10
You need to work a little harder on that "gracious" thing Beaverhausen Feb 2016 #18
I know Armstead Feb 2016 #20
huh? nt ecstatic Feb 2016 #22
well I"m sure Sanders will have free Dental care for all..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #24
Actually to tell the truth, I wear dentures Armstead Feb 2016 #26
My gosh, those speeches were torture to watch. Thank God Bernie was last. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #30
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
2. Rubio made my brain explode
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:37 AM
Feb 2016

Cruz made my....oh I won't go there.

At least Clinton didn't invoke the support of the Almighty God in her speech

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
4. Between Rubio and Criue I actually prefer Cruz
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:41 AM
Feb 2016

He at least has kind of a sense of humor

Rubio is a charmless, vapid automoton, programmed with hateful bile

But they're both truly awful

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
13. Cruz has a hard time holding in the laughter sometimes
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016

Wouldn't he be something to watch for the next four years in the White House? I'd have to come up with previously unexplored coping strategies.

Response to Armstead (Original post)

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
9. I think that is a really stupid thing to say.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:44 AM
Feb 2016

Considering it helps the Repugnants. I wonder sometimes.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. You'll notice she got the hell out of there ASAP.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:42 AM
Feb 2016

She knows she's got nothing to gloat about tonight.

Response to roguevalley (Reply #15)

CountAllVotes

(22,215 posts)
29. She should have NEVER declared victory!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:26 AM
Feb 2016

and it has been said that whoever told her to do that was going to "probably be in a lot of trouble" ... thanks Bill!

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
8. Stop it. Let's keep it real. If she takes the primaries, we'll be voting for her in November.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:43 AM
Feb 2016

We are all in this together. Cruz took Iowa from Trump. Now THAT'S painful!!!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. Not really.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:45 AM
Feb 2016

The last time, IA voted for Santorum. The time before, IA voted for Huckabee.

The Republican side is utterly dominated by evangelicals. And they chose candidates who go on to lose everywhere else.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
14. Even though I know that, part of me just doesn't want Cruz to even get near the GE
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:54 AM
Feb 2016

Too many what is pop into my head

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
12. Good luck with that sentiment.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:46 AM
Feb 2016

Some of these "Bernie supporters" act very much like they would rather have President Cruz than President Clinton. It is fucking nuts.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
16. Yes. Probably true. But this isn't new. If it makes you feel any better,
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

This happens every election year. Democrats tearing each other from limb to limb. And then the vast majority will refocus in the general election to get down to business. I have faith this year will be no different. No one wants a fucking Cruz anything because that is just too horrific to even contemplate. Not even in jest, my friend. Not even in jest. Just seeing Cruz's face gives me orbital tics.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
17. This place gets more and more unreadable by the day.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:14 AM
Feb 2016

Gotta bail. Can't take it. Hoping for the best.

Peace.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
37. Your Whatamallonness. Lol. One of my favorite characters
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:39 AM
Feb 2016

In one of my absolute favorite movies. So damn funny!!

Response to AgadorSparticus (Reply #8)

Response to AgadorSparticus (Reply #25)

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
31. You can start now? You are a little sensitive, aren't you? Hope that made you feel better
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:29 AM
Feb 2016

Sounds like you want to pick a fight. Apparently, it is a real grievance to suggest we are all in this together. Such blasphemy!

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
50. You're right. Irony is that I AM a Bernie supporter.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:31 AM
Feb 2016

Perhaps it is because I didn't feel ENOUGH of the Bern to meet comfort levels? it is almost kind of funny, actually.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
52. I like him too. A lot.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:37 AM
Feb 2016

You won't ever catch me talkin' shit about Bernie that is for sure. I am just on Hillary's bus. She gets a raw deal and it isn't accurate how she is portrayed, by the rabid right who has been lying about her for years, and some Bernie folks who repeat those lies and throw some fresh shit on top of it.

Yeah, she is a powerful, well connected woman. No doubt. So?

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
55. I feel the same way. I have always felt that she got a raw deal from
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:18 AM
Feb 2016

A lot of people i.e. Benghazi. She is a very intelligent and driven woman so I can see why she is targeted. Capable, driven women don't sit well with the ol boys club. When you look into her history (I have) she has always been a champion for certain vulnerable populations. I have no doubt she would make a great POTUS. And if she gets the nomination, I would support her in a heartbeat.

But i am feeling the Bern. The more I see him, the more I hear him speak, the more compelled I am to vote for him. He is different and has so much integrity. As much as I would LOVE to see a woman in office right now (trust me, strong pull for me), I am gravitating to someone with the integrity in their core and see what that would look like in the white house. I feel like he is different.

But either way, I do feel that the next potus will be a Democrat and will be instrumental in marked changes to society to improve the human Condition. I was really excited to see gay rights come to fruition. It marks a big change in our society and very exciting to witness. I hope we see more barriers brought down and I think we will with the next president.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
47. The truth is, I don't have a whole lot of confidence in a whole lot
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:14 AM
Feb 2016

Of people. Especially in Washington. You know why I am voting Bernie? Because not only is he different, but he proved he can win the general election. That was a clencher for me.

But Hillary is a great candidate too. And while we may not like everything she does, she is a helluva lot better than a rabid batshit crazy right wing evangelical lunatic. It seems to me, politics has moved to a new arena. Mainly that the right is so fucking crazy. And we shouldn't forget that. I don't come on to DU too often anymore, so i don't know all the in's and out's of who is on what team. I don't care. I won't engage in the Hillary v. Bernie bullshit, either. I will vote for both and I will defend both.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
56. she is a helluva lot better than a rabid batshit crazy right wing evangelical lunatic
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:47 AM
Feb 2016

See, that's the thing.
We are all too often forced to choose between bad and worse.
Meanwhile, our Dem party has become Republican Lite, and only looks "not too bad" because the nutz like Cruz are so starkly Hitler II.

As a result, I get torn between Emma Goldman's quote: "if voting changed anything, it would be illegal"
to
All ballots should have an option for..."none of the above".

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
57. I think there are plenty of bad choices out there, but I don't think Hillary is one of them.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:18 AM
Feb 2016

I know what you are saying about the overall tilt to the right, but it is what it is. I personally will always vote for the more progressive candidate that has the BEST chances of winning. I won't throw my vote for just idealogue. There's too much at stake. I am not one who will vote for idealogue while Rome is burning down. Just turn your head to the right. It's a god damn circus.

And, for once, I am glad that a candidate like Bernie Sanders is getting the traction that we haven't seen in the past and is truly a viable candidate. I truly think he will take it all the way and I am excited about it. But just because I am voting for Bernie does not mean I am going to excoriate the next most progressive person out there.

Volaris

(11,705 posts)
54. Meh..Trump didnt need it the way Cruz did---
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:49 AM
Feb 2016

Cruz NEEDED a win in Iowa to show that he has the backing of the Evangelical Base, or he would be about done. Trump can still clean house in NH (a more prescice indicator of who takes the nomination on their side anyway), and so the first 2 contests are essentially a wash.

the REAL knife fight for them is going to be in SC, mark my words. Get the popcorn its going to be very bloody.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
10. Things go better with MUTE which I did after her nose suddenly stretched out
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:44 AM
Feb 2016

and broke some ceiling lights.

Hillary is back to Universal Healthcare. The only way I can makes sense of that is to think she's planning to build on Obamacare by using federal marshals to reach out and enforce the mandate.

FrenchieCat

(68,868 posts)
24. well I"m sure Sanders will have free Dental care for all.....
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

maybe in 2025! That will be cool! Know I will love that!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
30. My gosh, those speeches were torture to watch. Thank God Bernie was last.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:27 AM
Feb 2016

Now I won't have nightmares.

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