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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:18 PM Feb 2016

Oh Boy... #coingate, #coinspiracy and #coinghazi...

Sanders’ supporters cry foul over “Coingate”: Controversy over coin tosses that made Clinton “winner” in Iowa
The suspicious circumstances in which Clinton edged Sanders has critics demanding answers over bizarre coin flips VIDEO

Ben Norton - Salon
Tuesday, Feb 2, 2016 09:50 AM PST

Salon reached out to John Allen Paulos, the prominent mathematician and author of “Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences,” requesting a comment on the controversy. “It does arouse a little suspicion — about the six consecutive wins for Clinton, about the way the flips took place, and about the 60 missing attendees. Can’t say more now,” he said.

In Ames, Clinton was awarded county delegates based on a coin toss only after 60 caucus participants suddenly disappeared, for unknown reasons.

Moreover, a widely circulated video uploaded to C-SPAN alleges that Clinton supporters committed voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa. The post claims that the video shows the caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain not conducting an actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately misleading the caucus.

Mere hours after being uploaded, the C-SPAN post had hundreds of thousands of views.

These circumstances led critics on social media to use the hashtags #coingate, #coinspiracy and #coinghazi.


Link: http://www.salon.com/2016/02/02/critics_cry_foul_over_coingate_hillary_clinton_had_1_6_chance_of_winning_6_coin_tosses_that_made_her_winner_in_iowa/






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Oh Boy... #coingate, #coinspiracy and #coinghazi... (Original Post) WillyT Feb 2016 OP
The people crying conspiracy over coin flips are an embarrassment Capt. Obvious Feb 2016 #1
The 'rule 28' ones certainly are. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #7
+1... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #18
Coin flips . . . period . . . are an embarrassment. Vinca Feb 2016 #23
The headline itself deserves a k&R. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #2
Why is it wherever the Clinton's go, controversy follows pinebox Feb 2016 #3
Cuz people make up shit, like the "victory speech" , the 6/6 coin flips (ignoring Bernie won some) bettyellen Feb 2016 #13
Honduras isn't made up pinebox Feb 2016 #15
VIDEO: Polk County (from CSPAN) ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #4
What kind of primitive clusterfuck method is this? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #9
They really don't seem all that bright LOL. How about, you get the supporters on each side, snooper2 Feb 2016 #14
I know whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #16
LOL nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #17
As if HC needed another thing to make people doubt her NowSam Feb 2016 #5
. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #6
Math impaired Provasek Feb 2016 #8
"falling for the crap put out by the right to frame Hillary" all day, every day. bettyellen Feb 2016 #12
Willy, see Skinners post which clarifies the coin tosses emulatorloo Feb 2016 #10
CT forum maybe? Did you miss Skinner's thread or do you imagine he is "in on it" too? bettyellen Feb 2016 #11
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT! n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #19
You're into double digits now. randome Feb 2016 #20
Coin-flip democracy.....you got to love it... avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #21
Loving this today. Too funny. Is this the onion? nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #22
Snopes reports it's SANDERS who won the 6 coin tosses! Mistwell Feb 2016 #24

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
1. The people crying conspiracy over coin flips are an embarrassment
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

If Bernie had won them all he would have lost by about the exact same margin.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
7. The 'rule 28' ones certainly are.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:27 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, the rule is poorly worded, but I think it's pretty improbable that whoever wrote it truly intended for the 'winner' of a coin flip to 'lose' a delegate.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
23. Coin flips . . . period . . . are an embarrassment.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

This is how we pick our leaders?????? Why not draw straws or throw darts at the beginning of the cycle so candidates would save money?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
3. Why is it wherever the Clinton's go, controversy follows
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

I for one am sick and tired of it

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. Cuz people make up shit, like the "victory speech" , the 6/6 coin flips (ignoring Bernie won some)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:41 PM
Feb 2016

it's shameless.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
9. What kind of primitive clusterfuck method is this?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

I admit being ignorant to the process, but is this the best the most technically advanced country in the world can do?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
14. They really don't seem all that bright LOL. How about, you get the supporters on each side,
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

And file them through a line to be counted, then stay on that side...

Or, give everybody one card and have them put a H, B, Or M on it...

Or...

Oh, we'll just run around and randomly count hands in air

Provasek

(2 posts)
8. Math impaired
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

Jeezus Christ people, you are falling for the crap put out by the right to frame Hillary as a criminal. The Des Moines Register news report said Hillary won by a coin toss in six precincts. It did NOT say there were six coin tosses and she won all six of them. But that's become the right wing meme of the day. Bernie won at least two.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. CT forum maybe? Did you miss Skinner's thread or do you imagine he is "in on it" too?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

:headslap:

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. You're into double digits now.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016
You have selected option #10. Please confirm.
1. The MSM is conspiring against Sanders.
2. Planned Parenthood is conspiring against Sanders.
3. The DNC is conspiring against Sanders.
4. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is conspiring against Sanders.
5. The IT company that works for the DNC is conspiring against Sanders.
6. The polling companies are conspiring against Sanders.
7. And, of course, those of us on DU who support the eventual nominee (Clinton or Sanders) are conspiring against Sanders.
8. Human Rights Campaign is conspiring against Sanders.
9. Iowa Chairwoman Dr. Andy McGuire is conspiring against Sanders.
10. The six coins in six different locations are conspiring against Sanders.
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Mistwell

(569 posts)
24. Snopes reports it's SANDERS who won the 6 coin tosses!
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

And also it's over fractions of delegates (how to round) not full delegates.

http://www.snopes.com/iowa-caucus-coin-toss/

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