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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:33 PM Feb 2016

Sanders Won't Debate Thursday Unless Clinton Agrees To Future Debates - TheHill

Sanders won't debate Thursday unless Clinton agrees to future debates
By Rebecca Savransky - TheHill
February 02, 2016, 04:54 pm

<snip>

Bernie Sanders' campaign says he won't participate in Thursday's planned Democratic presidential debate unless Hillary Clinton agrees to the Sanders campaign's conditions on future debates.

"We are continuing to negotiate with them not just about the debate Thursday night, but about the other debates that we have said need to be agreed to in order to put the whole package of debates together," Tad Devine, a top Sanders campaign official, told The Hill.

"They have not agreed to at least one aspect of it, which is we've asked for a debate in New York, and they do not want to have a debate in New York."

Clinton is urging Sanders to debate her in New Hampshire this week, saying the campaign has met the conditions.

“I sure hope — we’re in Bernie Sanders’ backyard here in New Hampshire — I sure hope he intends to show up in his neighboring state,” Clinton told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Tuesday. “Let the people of New Hampshire see us both on the debate stage.”

Devine told The Hill that Clinton's comments are a mischaracterization of Sanders' position.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) and MSNBC came to a tentative agreement for the debate to be held at 9 p.m. on Thursday. It would be moderated by Chuck Todd and Rachel Maddow, Politico reported.

But the DNC has not yet officially sanctioned the debate, saying negotiations will continue Tuesday...

<snip>

Link: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/267942-sanders-wont-debate-thursday-unless-clinton-agrees-to-future


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Sanders Won't Debate Thursday Unless Clinton Agrees To Future Debates - TheHill (Original Post) WillyT Feb 2016 OP
Oh boy. This did not work for trump yeoman6987 Feb 2016 #1
I was going to say, this reminds me of Trump. Metric System Feb 2016 #3
LOL the agreement was... HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #8
I do, why is Hillary afraid to debate in New York? Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #31
I'm sure Clint Eastwood could lend her a chair. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #30
LOL. Clinton is now reduced to begging Sanders to debate her. mhatrw Feb 2016 #33
It has nothing to do with Trump MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #37
Still no DNC sanction? daleanime Feb 2016 #2
It won't help Bernie if MSNBC holds the event and only Hillary shows up book_worm Feb 2016 #4
Pulling a Trump? Lose Iowa. Skip debate. Hmm DanTex Feb 2016 #5
My god. You're actually funny. cyberswede Feb 2016 #10
Good for Bernie... I for one am sick and tired of Hillary dictating terms as if she's the supreme leader. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #6
That is for sure... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #38
Seriously... I thought I had seen it all. Hillary knows no bounds when it comes to sheer gall. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #42
If Senator Sanders agrees to an unsanctioned debate DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #7
She only wanted 4 debates to begin with. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #12
Why don't they want to debat in New York? Hillary was elected there, wasn't she? cyberswede Feb 2016 #9
Not most of the New Yorkers I know (upper west side). Divernan Feb 2016 #11
That's right. It's her home turf, so she should be well-loved there. kath Feb 2016 #14
For many still living on her 'home turf' Karma13612 Feb 2016 #20
Oh, I figured as much. was being a bit sarcastic. kath Feb 2016 #22
+10 Karma13612 Feb 2016 #35
Do you think the carpet bagging had anything to do with it? libdem4life Feb 2016 #26
Lol,+10 Karma13612 Feb 2016 #36
NY will bring huge media and ratings and viewers. morningfog Feb 2016 #45
heck, she backed Wall Street to piss off AQ after 9-11, or so I hear tell MisterP Feb 2016 #23
She represented Wall Street as a Senator Oilwellian Feb 2016 #32
It's called "Fear the Bern". InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #43
I know he would backout. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #13
Did you also know that Hillary would move her goal posts....again Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #17
Bingo. earthside Feb 2016 #29
THIS Bingo^^^ MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #40
understandable . . . Rachel can be brutal DrDan Feb 2016 #15
bernie likes debates. he doesn't like duplicitous DWS. Who does. roguevalley Feb 2016 #24
it's quite confusing - he wants more, he has a petition on his website asking for more, DrDan Feb 2016 #34
It's only confusing to those who want to side step the real issue... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #41
Smart move... speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #16
Exactly !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #18
Exactly. Like the Sanders Campaign stated when asked for more debates: 'Not right to only have AzDar Feb 2016 #19
Ha! He's negotiating from a position of strength and they have no clue geek tragedy Feb 2016 #21
Good!! The original debate schedule was bullshit & he's not going to let them push him around. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #25
Bernie just using a poker face...he will debate and they will sanction more.. INdemo Feb 2016 #27
I'm good with Bernie's Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #28
umm. Is Bernie going to pull a Trump?? riversedge Feb 2016 #39
This morning on MSNBC, Bernie says he'll show up tomorrow. brooklynite Feb 2016 #44
She thinks she can set the agenda. Uh, no. Even though she likes to think it, she's NOT the Queen in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #46
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. Oh boy. This did not work for trump
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary at the debate by herself? It would be a night where she could discuss a lot of issues. I think she'd like that.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
8. LOL the agreement was...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie would debate in NH so long as Clinton agreed to 3 further debates. Apparently this arrangement has not yet been finalized. Trump ducked out because he didn't like the moderator. Just a bit of a difference don't you think?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
33. LOL. Clinton is now reduced to begging Sanders to debate her.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 04:38 AM
Feb 2016
Clinton is a landline. Sanders is a smartphone.

Time for all the plutorats to jump Clinton's sinking ship. Maybe Rubio's will float?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
37. It has nothing to do with Trump
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:47 AM
Feb 2016

Trump simply didn't want to show. I can't even believe the Democratic issue oriented debate platform is being compared to the circus of Republican name calling sessions. Ain't that something?

When the Democratic Party plays games with crafting when needed a debate, rather than agreeing ON a series of debates, it continues to play a biased game. Either agree to a debate series, LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING, or just admit to having them strategic to an underperforming candidate, which should be apparent after Iowa.

Unfortunately, the cheering sections here don't see the intent of taking the opportunity to debate to suite an under-performing candidate. They just use Trump as needed.

May as well watch the Oscars or go to a football game. This is a series of when candidates talk about the issues, not an opportunity "when needed". Nice move, DWS cheerleaders!

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
2. Still no DNC sanction?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:37 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie better get any agreement in writing, in front of witnesses.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
4. It won't help Bernie if MSNBC holds the event and only Hillary shows up
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

but I believe in the end that they both will be there and should be a lively debate.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
6. Good for Bernie... I for one am sick and tired of Hillary dictating terms as if she's the supreme leader.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
38. That is for sure...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:50 AM
Feb 2016

Prop up the anointed and cry when you can't. Squeak by on a coin toss when there was a 40 point lead, then laud it as a victory while getting more help from your friends at the DLC.

This is the TURD way!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
42. Seriously... I thought I had seen it all. Hillary knows no bounds when it comes to sheer gall.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 08:28 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
7. If Senator Sanders agrees to an unsanctioned debate
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

The minute he does DWS pretends to be furious at both campaigns and as punishment cancels ALL future debates. Hillary pretends to be outraged and then doesn't have to debate Sanders ever again. Pass on it unless it's sanctioned.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
9. Why don't they want to debat in New York? Hillary was elected there, wasn't she?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:47 PM
Feb 2016

New Yorkers should like her.

kath

(10,565 posts)
14. That's right. It's her home turf, so she should be well-loved there.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

So why on earth would she have a problem with a debate there?

Karma13612

(4,981 posts)
20. For many still living on her 'home turf'
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

they do NOT feel the love.

That type of assumption is dangerous.

She was not as well loved here in NY as some would like to think.

kath

(10,565 posts)
22. Oh, I figured as much. was being a bit sarcastic.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:59 PM
Feb 2016

There is usually a "home state advantage", so you'd figure she would like to debate there. BUT, considering what the policies of her and Bill have done to the poor and middle class, well...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
45. NY will bring huge media and ratings and viewers.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:37 AM
Feb 2016

She knows the more people see her the less the like or trust her.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
17. Did you also know that Hillary would move her goal posts....again
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

because that's exactly what it sounds like.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
29. Bingo.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:55 PM
Feb 2016

She's in trouble, so now she wants another debate before New Hampshire.

After she loses in New Hampshire, all of a sudden she will want another debate.

If she wins somewhere, she'll decide that no more debates are necessary.

There are only two major candidates now -- either one of them would be foolish not to have a new debate schedule and rules all laid out for the next two or three months.

Debates can't be an on-the-fly ploy just to suit Hillary's mercurial campaign needs.

Because this new enthusiasm for debating from Mrs. Clinton sure comes off as a 'moving the goal posts' and a slick tactic to me.

Can you say "Slick Hillary"?

Besides, with Hillary's nearly single digit poll ratings on honesty and integrity, Bernie holds the principled upper hand on this point.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
34. it's quite confusing - he wants more, he has a petition on his website asking for more,
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:02 AM
Feb 2016

he gets more . . . . then says he is not going to show

I hope this is not an indication of how he would govern as President

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
41. It's only confusing to those who want to side step the real issue...
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:53 AM
Feb 2016

She had to have a lot of luck to claim victory in the first state, and now she needs more...

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
16. Smart move...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:54 PM
Feb 2016

..even if he draws criticism for it.

Her campaign is otherwise going to be very tempted to ignore him between South Carolina and Super Tuesday.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
19. Exactly. Like the Sanders Campaign stated when asked for more debates: 'Not right to only have
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

debates when Sec. Clinton's campaign is in crisis'... (paraphrasing, of course)


 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
25. Good!! The original debate schedule was bullshit & he's not going to let them push him around.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
27. Bernie just using a poker face...he will debate and they will sanction more..
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:43 PM
Feb 2016

At this point Hillary needs these more than Bernie here in NH.

Part of the agreement should also be a debate in South Carolina

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
39. umm. Is Bernie going to pull a Trump??
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 07:51 AM
Feb 2016


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in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
46. She thinks she can set the agenda. Uh, no. Even though she likes to think it, she's NOT the Queen
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 09:49 AM
Feb 2016

of the United States of America. She can't dictate, goad, insist and nudge Bernie to do anything. She didn't want more debates until she was LOSING to the Socialist who could never be elected president. Now she thinks she can demand debates on a whim and get them. NOPE. NOT HAPPENING.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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