Is Hillary Clinton a "progressive who gets things done"?

[ElliotCarver]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=15563

Jeff Cohen makes a pretty persuasive argument against her self-styling. What say DU?

[merrily]

1. She is a self-described moderate who lists among her credentials

having told Wall Street to cut it out and not needing a tour of the WH.

Clap louder. I can't hear you.

[ElliotCarver]

5. "Moderate, kind of center... I plead guilty"

[merrily]

8. As to accomplishments...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1081881

[ElliotCarver]

11. Thank you nt

[cali]

2. There is little evidence to support her claim

What were her progressive achievements as senator? Or as SoS?

[ElliotCarver]

7. I guess it was a progressive idea to sell Saudi Arabia 1.3b worth of arms

As in progressively worse than not doing so?

I'm reaching here I know

[merrily]

10. Libya?

[Avalux]

3. No! It's a goddamn lie. n/t

[daleanime]

4. I don't know if I would call her a progressive, all I know is....

the only things she would be able to do with the congress that she would bring into office are the things that I don't want.

[7wo7rees]

6. OK, what has she gotten done? Please, I really would like to know.

Health care reform, not so much.
Kids
Veterans care
Prison reform
Still looking..........
Reigning in the excess and criminality of banks "too big to fail"...
TPP and other free trade agreements
Pipelines and energy industry? Fracking?

Iraq war vote?

So please, inform me. I would really, truly like to be able to like her.

[FlatBaroque]

9. No, not a progressive. Yes, gets things done

For bankers, for Arab monarchs, for neocon warmongers, yes, she gets things done for them.

[ElliotCarver]

12. I wish that some Hillary supporters would engage in this discussion

I am genuinely concerned that if Hillary is the nominee, she will lose a lot of the progressive vote and thus cede the white house to that little rat/runt Rubio.

Please assuage my concerns that she will fast track the TPP, among other bad ideas!

[merrily]

21. Not in the Bernie Group, please.

I thought Obama was going to sign the TPP?

[NorthCarolina]

13. More like a "progressive just long enough to get elected".

That's how I see it anyway.

[BillZBubb]

14. She's progressive on a select few issues. More conservative on most issues.

On economics and national security, she's center-right. She has no progressive impulses in those areas.

[musiclawyer]

15. No

She's a DINO. Liberal on social issues ( some new to her) and punitive to all Americans on economic issues and perpetual war. A vote for HRC is a vote for a GOP POTUS

[Dems to Win]

16. In her trial run as Prez, she failed to reform health care in 1993 nt

[senz]

17. It's a joke. She has accomplished nothing.

Ineffective Senator with nothing to show but a couple of disastrous votes. Ineffective SOS who failed Libya and had a side business of connecting weapons manufacturers with third world countries. Compare her record to John Kerry's.

She is neither "progressive" nor someone who "gets things done."

[winter is coming]

18. I'd say she's a neoliberal. If there's something she can accomplish that Bernie can't,

it's probably not something we want.

[AZ Progressive]

19. She admitted that she's not before she said she was

Hillary's mouth

[Romulox]

20. She's not any kind of progressive. She'd be rightly called "center right" in any

other modern Democracy in the world.

[Pastiche423]

22. No, she is not a proggressive

Besides she has ready stated, on tape that she is a centrist.