2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI want a woman president
for the female strengths, qualities, and sensibilities this testosterone poisoned country is so badly lacking, not because it's a woman's turn to drive the feudalistic war wagon over the skulls of brown babies.
Hillary ain't it. Flame away.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)completely enthralled by her). But the sad truth is that she is not running and wn't run for president.
We need to get over it here on this board. Look to other up and coming women candidates. They will need our support, in all ways, including emotional...
DebbieCDC
(2,543 posts)Woman president yes
This woman no
jham123
(278 posts)"Qualified Candidate" does not include genitalia nor does it need a skin color descriptor.
Misandry is just as reprehensible and Misogyny
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I immediately think of Margaret Thatcher.
Am I saying Hillary is Thatcher? No. I'm just pointing out how lame that talking point about "electing woman=revolution" is.
kath
(10,565 posts)of state worked out for them, you morons".
ISSUES matter, not genitals.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)They're very similar in a lot of ways, good and bad.
I've called Hillary, "Thatcher in a pantsuit" this entire election cycle.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Wig Master
(95 posts)N/T
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I can't wait to vote for a strong progressive woman that I trust.
Hopefully it will happen one day soon.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)just to name a few. Why has the Dem Party Leadership never considered any other woman for this job especially after Hillary lost last time?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)1. she'll dutifully perpetuate the neoliberal regime
2. being the first female president she'll represent "progressive change" needed to fool and mollify liberals.
Wig Master
(95 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)yup.
merrily
(45,251 posts)But not by a lot, especially if you give her the two states the DNC took from her
Remember that hush hush meeting she and Obama had after the primaries ended? Supposedly, the deal they made was that he'd help her pay off her campaign debts. Also, I was a significant donor to the Obama campaign. I got ONE email asking me to help Hillary out and, IIRC, he did ONE fundraiser for her. Are you kidding? The last thing the Clintons have trouble doing is raising money. I think those were strictly for public consumption.
Thanks in part to her comment about McCain and the 3 am phone call and McCain's pick of Palin, PUMAs were threatening to go Republican. A deal was made in order to make sure the Clintons gave their full-throated support to Obama and for her not to challenge him in 2012. Part of the deal was Secretary of State or Vice President and as clear a field in 2016 as anyone could give her. That's my theory, anyway.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Especially if it doesn't come with an asterisk: * Preceded in the office by her husband.
If Elizabeth Warren had run, I'd be on board.
The day will come; it's not going to be in 2016.
But the day will come.
kath
(10,565 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)when he does step aside, whether after one term or two.
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I was crestfallen when she declined to run. Thankfully Bernie to the rescue!
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And if I wrongly suggested the Democratic party was poisoned by estrogen (DWS/Hillary), you would alert on it, right?
Stupid bigoted OP, IMHO.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)I wanted to get that in before they flame you because you hurt someones feelings
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Mine isn't a message of man hate, I'm a guy. My question is, is it important to have a female president to fill an empty slot on a scorecard, or because of the unique value a woman's perspective can bring to governance? Sorry if that offends.
Donkees
(31,396 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Feel the Bern!
Donkees
(31,396 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)I actually heard a Hillary supporter on the radio criticize him for not staying in NY.
Donkees
(31,396 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Since she decided not to run, I'll go with the candidate closest to her on ending financial shenanigans.
merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)It would have been epic.
Bernie Sanders is incredible and I am supporting him 100%, without reservation, not looking back.
If Elizabeth accepts a position in Bernie's WH, I will be thrilled.
If she runs in 2020 or 2024, she has my support.
Hillary turned me off in 2008 once I actually researched her and Obama. I was initially guilty of jumping on the HRC bandwagon since I also thought it would be great for America to elect their first female president. But substance and positions and values matter and Hillary's values and positions on matters of importance do NOT match mine.
I am a 62 year old white female, college educated, struggling in our economy. Wall street messed up what little pension I had in the crash.
Bernie understands my struggles. He speaks to the very heart of all my sleepless nights.
Hillary is only going to make my insomnia worse. She has no intention of even pushing the envelope for the 99%. Forget about trying to bust it wide open.
We need a revolution and Bernie is just the one to do it. He has been a revolutionary all his life.
I was alerted the other night during the MSNBC debate for calling Hillary something. I was saved (thank you all!!), and have learned my lesson here at DU. But, in my heart, with all that Hillary has shown me, and her behavior before and during this campaign, I still feel very strongly about using that word. Just not here.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Would love that to be on a t-shirt, in support of a presidential run.
And under this picture, say "I want this one"
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)much...
I want a good president, and since I have an equal respect for any boss I've ever had to lead me, I want a competent leader.
It just so happens that over the last few years, I've had exactly ONE good woman leader, who in an exhaustive effort to help improve departmental services, LEFT.
The persons on the other end who drove this excellent away were 3:1 women who I do NOT respect as my superiors. Too bad I can't fire them, but I'm their subordinate worker.
OTOH, I can elect someone who is competent as my president. If it's someone I do not think is the best, I will not support them. Gender knows no competency boundaries.
JudyM
(29,236 posts)It's manufactured by ovaries and adrenals.
Women have this in varying levels and the level fluctuates in each woman. Some women also take testosterone for various purposes.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)several people have taken issue with my use of 'testosterone poisoning'. I don't mean to disparage a vital hormone, or men for that matter, I'm simply suggesting we have a president who does it her way, not his way.