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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:43 PM Feb 2016

WTF ??? - 'Madeline Albright: 'Special Place In Hell' For Women Who Don't Support Clinton...'

Madeline Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton
Former secretary of state says women must help each other, while people are talking about a ‘revolution’ led by the first female US president

Tom McCarthy - Guardian - in Concord, New Hampshire
Saturday 6 February 2016 15.36 EST

<snip>

Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright introduced Hillary Clinton at an event in New Hampshire on Saturday, telling the crowd and voters in general: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”

In polling, Clinton trails the Vermont senator Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire by an average of around 17 points. She leads him nationally by 15 to 20 points. In this week’s Iowa caucus, which Clinton won narrowly, the former secretary of state led Sanders among women by 53% to 42% but lost out among younger voters.


<snip>

Link: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton









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WTF ??? - 'Madeline Albright: 'Special Place In Hell' For Women Who Don't Support Clinton...' (Original Post) WillyT Feb 2016 OP
Good. NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #1
They sound like good ole gals. Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #21
WAY out of line. elleng Feb 2016 #2
I saw that Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #3
Willy, you're a little late to the party. pangaia Feb 2016 #4
LOL !!! - Well... WillyT Feb 2016 #18
Good for you, dude. pangaia Feb 2016 #20
It's the place in hell where they serve piña coladas and give foot massages. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #5
And Mark Twain is there to amuse us all. Punkingal Feb 2016 #9
And Bernie is President. bunnies Feb 2016 #16
And Hitler finds his head draped with Kurt Vonnegut's father's underpants. cyberswede Feb 2016 #26
I was hoping for tequila myself. Nt. thucythucy Feb 2016 #27
I've been steaming over this all day. Idiotic thing to say. Punkingal Feb 2016 #6
Madeline Albright, Dame of Malta and champion of the Reich Fifth Column PeoViejo Feb 2016 #7
Madeline has been and always will be awful (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #8
Lost credibility..jumped the shark..lost the plot...whatever. Poor woman groveling for relevancy. libdem4life Feb 2016 #10
Another DUer posted the whole quote in context... bunnies Feb 2016 #11
No one is talking about a revolution led by Hillary. earthshine Feb 2016 #12
There's a special place in hell for her RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #13
I'm pretty sure she was just doing as instructed. NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #22
Wow. polly7 Feb 2016 #23
So she thinks that she can speak for g-d Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #29
That was the first PNAC war (Edit- thought you wrote Serbia) nationalize the fed Feb 2016 #38
I still remember the first bombing ... I screamed and polly7 Feb 2016 #41
Not to mention the Iraq sanctions responsible for many thousands of children dying farleftlib Feb 2016 #44
I think I heard Larry ODonnell say it's an Albright quote once on Starbucks cups HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #14
Why isn't Albright endorsing Carly? She's a woman. jillan Feb 2016 #15
Fuck her. And Hillary ain't leading no revolution, idiot. cui bono Feb 2016 #17
Hillary's mouthpieces Albright and Steinem alienated many women today. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #19
Effffff...... Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #24
!!!! nc4bo Feb 2016 #25
Yes! Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #28
Oh dear...you must not have seen the movie The Help! nc4bo Feb 2016 #37
The Clinton campaign continues to win hearts and minds Doctor_J Feb 2016 #30
Don't take it personally. Beacool Feb 2016 #31
So you're saying there's no thought process? Words just gush forth at odd moments? nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #39
Sooooo how special is Hillary's place in hell? Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #46
Oh, Madeline Oilwellian Feb 2016 #32
NOT ME Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #33
Somehow or other Albright's name gets conflated with that of Steinem, in some DU posts. delrem Feb 2016 #36
I agree with you about Steinem and Albright. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #42
I dunno. But I'll bet she gets laid. delrem Feb 2016 #47
It's just payback for Bill hiring her... EndElectoral Feb 2016 #34
Seems to be one big happy family. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #40
Ohh electing a woman because she's a woman... that's not condescending or anything. Fearless Feb 2016 #35
“There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!” The OP and riversedge Feb 2016 #43
Evening Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #45

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. Willy, you're a little late to the party.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

That ain't like you. You are usually way out ahead of most of us, me for sure.



 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
18. LOL !!! - Well...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:04 PM
Feb 2016

Every now and again I have to buy groceries, and feel the sun on my face.






 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
16. And Bernie is President.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:57 PM
Feb 2016

And cannabis is legal
And we all have healthcare
And we make a living wage
And we take care of each other

Sounds horrid.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
7. Madeline Albright, Dame of Malta and champion of the Reich Fifth Column
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:50 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary is her Sorority Sister.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. Lost credibility..jumped the shark..lost the plot...whatever. Poor woman groveling for relevancy.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
11. Another DUer posted the whole quote in context...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016


“Young women have to support Hillary Clinton. The story is not over!” she said. “They’re going to want to push us back. Appointments to the supreme court make all the difference.

“It’s not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”


Personally, I trust young women to make up their own minds. No one gets to tell them what they have to do. Further, what kind of moron comes to the least religious state in the country and makes threats of hell?!
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
13. There's a special place in hell for her
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

after she was a leading proponent for the NATO bombings that struck hospitals and schools in Syria back in 1999.
She is in the same class as Kissinger.

more at the link: http://usuncut.com/politics/special-place-in-hell-madeleine-albright/

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
29. So she thinks that she can speak for g-d
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
38. That was the first PNAC war (Edit- thought you wrote Serbia)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:33 AM
Feb 2016

Edit- Albright WAS a leading voice calling for the bombing of Serbia, which WAS the first PNAC war

Project for a New American Century, co founded by Victoria "Fu&K the EU" Nuland's husband



http://web.archive.org/web/20020605191239/http://www.newamericancentury.org/balkans.htm

John Pilger has done excellent writing on this
http://johnpilger.com/articles/don-t-forget-yugoslavia

polly7

(20,582 posts)
41. I still remember the first bombing ... I screamed and
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:36 AM
Feb 2016

then bawled, I couldn't believe they were actually doing it. They were lying and I didn't understand then why. So many years later now still hearing how it was the right thing to do. Sickened by our part in it, just as with Libya. The same playbook, exactly.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
44. Not to mention the Iraq sanctions responsible for many thousands of children dying
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:31 AM
Feb 2016

were all "worth it." She has her own special corner of hell to look forward to IMHO.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
14. I think I heard Larry ODonnell say it's an Albright quote once on Starbucks cups
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

I've never been to Starbucks so I plead ignorance beyond that.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
17. Fuck her. And Hillary ain't leading no revolution, idiot.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

And by idiot I mean Albright, not the OP. Turns out she's more Aldim than Albright.

.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
24. Effffff......
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

Her. I have been a female and a woman all my life and I am not owned by any man. I make my own decisions. She seems to be saying that if someone like Thatcher (evil to the core) should be voted for because she was a woman, regardless of positions. I don't think Hillary is horribly evil like Thatcher, but Albright's statement is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo WRONG!!! We as women, have viewpoints and we can vote our beliefs and Albright's thoughts that she has the line on g-d's views is INSULTING to all women!

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
28. Yes!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:11 AM
Feb 2016

I see strength in her eyes! My family is Scandinavian and are US citizens, and my ancestry should not matter. People don't care because I am from a WHITE race. It should be that way for ALL races.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
37. Oh dear...you must not have seen the movie The Help!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:04 AM
Feb 2016

This is the scene where Millie gave Miss Hilly her own "special" chocolate pie.

Millie said to her, "Eat my shit!"

Perfect for Albright's comment.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
39. So you're saying there's no thought process? Words just gush forth at odd moments? nt.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:27 AM
Feb 2016
 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
46. Sooooo how special is Hillary's place in hell?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-boosts-cuomo-ticket-moreland-counsel-trashes-article-1.1930038

Clinton became one of the biggest Democratic guns yet to rally behind Cuomo’s ticket this week, part of a strategy to overwhelm Teachout and her running mate Tim Wu with party firepower. Meanwhile Janos Marton wrote a scathing column for DailyKos.com Friday denouncing Cuomo.


Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
32. Oh, Madeline
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:18 AM
Feb 2016
“There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”


Iraqi mothers could say the same thing to you, Madeline.



delrem

(9,688 posts)
36. Somehow or other Albright's name gets conflated with that of Steinem, in some DU posts.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

As if they are both equally feminist icons.

I don't get that.
I fully understand the rapport that Albright, Kissinger - and no doubt Rice - have with Hillary Clinton. It has nothing to do with their sex, it has to do with how they represent the same face of US militarism. The imperial state. These people will say any kind of shit. We know that.

But I'm shocked at Steinem's recent comments. Shocked at their shallowness. Shocked at her apparent blindness. It's a part of her that I hadn't known existed. I don't understand it.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
42. I agree with you about Steinem and Albright.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe they could have a debate: If a young woman volunteers for the Sanders campaign because that's where the boys are, does she still go to hell, or does she get a pass?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
47. I dunno. But I'll bet she gets laid.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:25 AM
Feb 2016

I don't recall ever being so light about my politics, that I'd feign interest in "democratic socialism" or any kind of "ism" just to get laid.

Sounds like a bar-room pickup...

In my non-political hormone-rampant most sex crazed years I was attracted by pheromones and by feeling comfortable and having fun in general, and I'd not give up those years for anything. As I aged into my 20's I was naturally attracted to feminist women. They seemed to have the brains - but I didn't know that they were feminists other than through noting the reading material that they scattered about. It included feminist books and magazines, along with all the rest of their interests.

To be sure, they knew that I was the most uninformed dolt, but they were and are kind.

I wouldn't say that I was interested in feminist thought because I wanted to get laid, but that the kind of women that I enjoy knowing have always been feminists and they introduced me to that thought. It's my fucking culture!

I really don't know what Gloria Steinem is talking about in this primary campaign. Even with mea culpas it seems very off the rails.
Slut shaming young women who're interested in the democratic socialist politics that Bernie Sanders espouses.
With or without her mea culpas, her words don't fit my life experience.

Fearless

(18,458 posts)
35. Ohh electing a woman because she's a woman... that's not condescending or anything.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:11 AM
Feb 2016

Had Jackie Robinson sucked at baseball, he would have done a disservice to integration. If it was Elizabeth Warren... she would be Jackie Robinson.

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
43. “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!” The OP and
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:24 AM
Feb 2016

Guardian misquote Albright's quote.


NOTE***the title of the Guardian contradicts the actual story!!




Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton



Tom McCarthy in Concord, New Hampshire
@TeeMcSee

Saturday 6 February 2016 15.36 EST


Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright introduced Hillary Clinton at an event in New Hampshire on Saturday, telling the crowd and voters in general: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”..............



Also--the context of the quote was abortion rights and the upcoming SC nominees:




....Albright was the first woman to be secretary of state and served during the presidency of Clinton’s husband, Bill. She closed her New Hampshire speech with an allusion to the ongoing struggle with Republicans over abortion rights.

“Young women have to support Hillary Clinton. The story is not over!” she said. “They’re going to want to push us back. Appointments to the supreme court make all the difference.

“It’s not done and you have to help. Hillary Clinton will always be there for you. And just remember, there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”.................


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton

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