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The Tea Party II, which is in its second reformation, is a Koch & Philip Morris creation! TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #1
Nope. n/t NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #2
The only people talking purity... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #3
You can assure me? NowSam Feb 2016 #4
So Sanders, the man who fought for Civil Rights since the 60's is going to lead a movement where peacebird Feb 2016 #5
This post is seething with fear. Wow. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #6
Your analogy fails. dogman Feb 2016 #7
Progressive movement Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #8
We need the Democratic party of FDR Fearless Feb 2016 #9
That's a steaming pile of shit. LWolf Feb 2016 #10
...with flies! Don't forget the flies. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #24
I love it when when people who complain about "purity" then demand we vote for the party. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #11
Now that is a smear... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #12
Gone is the smug condescension, the airy dismissals and the poor attempts at ridicule. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #13
Uh...the centrists are more aligned with tea party goals then regular Democrats Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #14
Sanders is not a Democrat Thenewire Feb 2016 #19
We want our FDR, progressive, Democratic Party back. And yes, it was so far gone, that it took an libdem4life Feb 2016 #20
Ridiculous post. cyberswede Feb 2016 #15
Baloney. H2O Man Feb 2016 #16
Honestly, I think a liberal tea party could be helpful, although it would be nice if the tone DanTex Feb 2016 #17
You'd think people would have read the consistent polls showing Bernie beating the Reublicans libdem4life Feb 2016 #22
Interest in the candidacy of Bernie Sanders cannot be dismissed as a tea party movement. CentralMass Feb 2016 #18
"progressive movement minorities and civil rights groups will be completely left out" dana_b Feb 2016 #21
Third Way Meme Fiction. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #23

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
1. The Tea Party II, which is in its second reformation, is a Koch & Philip Morris creation!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

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Invalid parallel made.


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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
3. The only people talking purity...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

...are HRC folks. Asking people to examine a candidates past is not a purity test.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
4. You can assure me?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:54 AM
Feb 2016

Your post offends me. Life may be a big compromise but I don't think we as a people should have to settle for a candidate who changes their positions on every issue. Integrity matters and Bernie is a man of integrity who clearly cares deeply for the poor, the aged, the sick, the veterans and the working people. I am a Jew. He attracted me to his campaign. Am I a racist? Many people from all ethnicities and backgrounds support Bernie. He is a candidate for all the people. My wife is a female who adores Bernie. She is a strong feminist.

Bernie's message has been consistent for decades. Hillary's message changes daily, depending on who she is speaking to. That is a fact and there are countless examples on youtube to demonstrate that.

You cannot assure me of anything as your post is a very poor attempt in very Rovian fashion I might add, to hang Hillary's weaknesses as a candidate on her opponent. Just my opinion. Have a nice day. I will now go hang out on this fine Sunday with my very culturally diverse group of Bernie supporters of every color and creed who want a more perfect union by working together. Freedom and Unity is quite possible but it requires honesty and integrity from the top down. That's why Bernie is the choice of a new generation.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
5. So Sanders, the man who fought for Civil Rights since the 60's is going to lead a movement where
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

Minorities and civil rights are left out?



Sometimes you just read a post and have to say

dogman

(6,073 posts)
7. Your analogy fails.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Feb 2016

Tea Party is based on the words Taxed Enough Already. That is the Clinton campaign message. The Sanders campaign is involving minorities in the progressive movement and fighting for civil rights. As I wrote in the title, you have failed completely in your post.

 

Roy Ellefson

(279 posts)
8. Progressive movement
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:03 PM
Feb 2016

If progressive principles do not also include income equality then count me out.

Fearless

(18,458 posts)
9. We need the Democratic party of FDR
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

To bring us back from the worst economy since the great depression.

Full stop.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
10. That's a steaming pile of shit.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

With no pony of fact nor sense hiding anywhere in the mess.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
24. ...with flies! Don't forget the flies.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:56 PM
Feb 2016

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A Jackie Martling joke (paraphrased)

Two flies are circling a pile of horse manure, one of the flies sees a beautiful woman landing on it.

The one fly tells his buddy that he is going to ask her out.

He lands next to her and says, "Excuse me, Is this stool taken?"


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Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. I love it when when people who complain about "purity" then demand we vote for the party.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

The irony is delicious.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
12. Now that is a smear...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:07 PM
Feb 2016

As opposed to Hillary's complaint about artful smears regarding her cozy relationship with Wall Street. Sanders has a very long track record of fighting against injustice across the board in all of its forms.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
13. Gone is the smug condescension, the airy dismissals and the poor attempts at ridicule.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

We're clearly at the tail end of the fight.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
14. Uh...the centrists are more aligned with tea party goals then regular Democrats
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:14 PM
Feb 2016

Perhaps I should call them conservative Democrats.
I'll grant that the whole pragmatic, less is more, tread carefully, small but "effective" government, don't rock the boat wing of the Democrat Party is far closer to mainstream establishment republicans then they are to the tea party; but the tea party is a creation of millionaire establishment conservative donors. Their idiot army. The third way/centrists/conservative Democrats are the creation of the millionaire establishment conservative donors as well. Their intellectual army?

Thenewire

(130 posts)
19. Sanders is not a Democrat
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

He doesn't represent the Democratic beliefs of the last 30-40 years. I'm not saying the idea of income equality is wrong but you are basically trying to strip away a core of the Democratic party by refocusing on economics. This will effectively leave out millions of minorities or social rights group whose main prerogative is social justice. In the end it is all a struggle of self interest.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. We want our FDR, progressive, Democratic Party back. And yes, it was so far gone, that it took an
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

Independent, not bound by party honchos and yahoos...which is why your first sentence is absurd. He represents everything, well almost, that the Democratic Party used to be for.

The rest of it, sorry, I just don't get it...and the last sentence is profoundly absurd.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
17. Honestly, I think a liberal tea party could be helpful, although it would be nice if the tone
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:18 PM
Feb 2016

were a little more civil. But the actual tea party isn't civil either, so maybe it goes with the territory.

But a liberal tea party pulling the party to the left would be great. What would not be great is nominating Bernie and then losing to the GOP. The tea party started out by winning state and local elections, in order to build up influence in the GOP. The liberal tea party should do that as well, because the stakes are too high if the GOP wins the presidency.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
22. You'd think people would have read the consistent polls showing Bernie beating the Reublicans
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:39 PM
Feb 2016

often in double digits.

Guess you've missed the many, many polls since Bernie became into public view, that show him winning strongly against every Republican in the race. The old "Bernie is unelectable" is out of date, incorrect and just plain untrue.

OTOH, the other option, is in increasing trouble, the Republicans hate her with a white hot hatred, and she does not poll well against them. She also keeps on doing, um, things that appear to be shady...but legal...perhaps. The real question, IMO, Can HRC win a GE. I say no.

Again, IMO, because none of us know, no.

CentralMass

(16,971 posts)
18. Interest in the candidacy of Bernie Sanders cannot be dismissed as a tea party movement.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

What passes for a democratic party and their agenda is not acceptable to a broad cross section of the electorate. We are in a downward spiral. Our children face an increasingly difficult future. Our fiscal policies favor corporations, the financial industry, and the wealthy. As a bell weathet we have one candidate fighting for a $15 minimum wage and the other arguing against it. Our public schools and infrastructure are in decline. I know of no one who like the public education policies of the last 8 years. Our foreign policy blunders, including Libya, have created a heavily armed destabilized mid-east that has descended into chaos.

The Democratic party has incurred major losses at the state and local level over the last 8 years as well.

Many of do not want the status quo. We don't want to be told we have time settle for more of the same, or hear what can't be done. I"m not that articulate of an individual so I will leave it there.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
21. "progressive movement minorities and civil rights groups will be completely left out"
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:37 PM
Feb 2016

Are you kidding?? Really?! So you think that the Democratic party as it stands now is all inclusive of liberal and/or progressives? Because if that's so, then you and I have a completely different experience with the party and/or a different connotation of what encompasses progressive/liberal.

The way that they have discounted Occupy, BLM, and progressives has left a bitter taste in my mouth. That's why I left in 2009 and only re-registered in order to vote for Bernie.

"Just in the same way Clinton is being attacked from the left" - and why do you think that is?? Maybe because she's a center-right candidate who only says she's a progressive because she thinks that some of us are too stupid to actually look at her record!

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